Yes
Google Tensor G2, MediaTek MT6877, MT6878, MT6879, MT6891, MT6893, Dimensity 7020, 7025 (Ultra), 7030, 7050, 7300 (Energy/Ultra/X), 8000, 8020, 8050, 8100, 8200, Kompanio 900T, 1200, 1380, 1300TQualcomm Snapdragon 4 Gen 1, 4(s) Gen 2, 695, 6 Gen 1, 6(s) Gen 3, 778G(+), 780G, 782G, 888(+)Samsung Exynos 1080, 1280, 1330, 1380, 2100Wow, i just asked a question, that benchmark is showing the best of all scenarios isn'tYou watch the DF video with Richard demolishing the Jaguar CPU, a mobile $200 Chromebook laptop trash CPU from 2012 at the worst of AMD's IPC performances in all of its history. It almost bankrupted AMD because it was so bad. Jaguar would not even compete with Intel's Atom, and as Richard says, even the 2008 Intel QUAD core (not 8-cores) Q6600 score being almost equal to Jaguar scores.
While A78, a standardized core from ARM is above Zen 2 IPC and your conclusion is that you wouldn't be surprised that it would even trade blows with Jaguar?
WHAT IS GOING ON? Is this reverse logic universe?
Tegra Orin is a KNOWN product. T239 is based on T234. We know most of what needs to be known from it. Not some rules of thumb guess. You can go and buy the kit and have fun downclocking it, measure power, etc.
A78 is a known quantity. In MANY products :
Code:Google Tensor G2, MediaTek MT6877, MT6878, MT6879, MT6891, MT6893, Dimensity 7020, 7025 (Ultra), 7030, 7050, 7300 (Energy/Ultra/X), 8000, 8020, 8050, 8100, 8200, Kompanio 900T, 1200, 1380, 1300TQualcomm Snapdragon 4 Gen 1, 4(s) Gen 2, 695, 6 Gen 1, 6(s) Gen 3, 778G(+), 780G, 782G, 888(+)Samsung Exynos 1080, 1280, 1330, 1380, 2100
Its in many chipsets. Its benched. There's no further tweakings of those clusters by either Nvidia or Nintendo. IPC is pretty much the best benchmark of CPU. Jaguar was not clocked high, its easy for A78 to surpass it, easy.
the guy literally leaked everything
Ok you're wasting my time
In fact his threshold is up to Series S. That's not even a fucking threshold on my radar 
This part? The part where he regurgitated the T239 specs that had leaked way before him? Even slow-ass DF had time to make a video before him.
He never mentions outside of the spec listing. Do point it out where he says A78 is bad
This part? The part where he regurgitated the T239 specs that had leaked way before him? Even slow-ass DF had time to make a video before him.
He never mentions outside of the spec listing. Do point it out where he says A78 is bad
i said that i would not be surprised if dont surpass the jaguars, i never said that wont be FIXED
you said that a78 surpass the zen 2, i asked if that benchmark you posted was the best scenario possible, you didnt answer, i them procede to say that i would not be surprised if the a78 INSIDE the switch will trade blows with jaguar
i think is very clear that i never nail that will be worse, what i said is that i would not be surprised if it wasn't
"I would be surprised that it doesn't surpass Jaguars"
ok ma bad, i did not see the error, english is not my native english too
It's a double negative, it can be strange to parse and generally frowned upon in english writing.
yes, exactly that
the last part yes
Isn't Switch 1 CPU better than Jaguar but only weaken by limited clock and cores count?
He later said he didn't even have the SDK and he wasnt commenting anymore. Guy was clearly just talking out of his ass like the vast majority of leakers. This has been great conversation but we still don't know anything.
I can believe you, IIRC AMD stock went as low as $2 per each.
That would only be good if the display was 120 hrtz or if you could manually change the refresh rate and it's Nintendo....
The ROG Ally has a battery life of under one hour at its maximum speed. It’s also very noisy. In a configuration that actually gives you a usable battery life (silent mode) the GPU performance is under the original Xbox One.
Great point
Nintendo wants more than 35 minutes of battery time in their portable gaming device.. that's why weak.
No, but I think you are wrong here. Jaguar got them the console design wins and massively improved their perception over Bulldozer (which seems to have been a costly mindshare and money pit). Jaguar (and Bobcat before it) were the ones that inverted the trend and gave them time to come up with and launch Zen. The fall of AMD in those days was not started by Jaguar.
At what power level? DF found the Ally was only up to 33% faster than the Deck at 15W, with many games showing signficantly smaller improvements. In GoW it delivered 86% of the PS4's frame rate in this mode. And bear in mind this is with 15W dedicated to the SoC only, where as we would expect Switch 2 to be <15W for the entire system. A more reasonable comparison would probably be the Ally in its 9W/10W mode. From what I can see online, 800 MHz is the maximum speed in that mode, which would give ~1.2 RDNA 2 TF.
The Rog Ally at 15W (2h battery) is decisively superior to Xbone.
The Switch 2 will be under 10w, and even 15w does not always get you 2 hours in a demanding title on the Rog Ally. Most AAA games would be around 90-100 minutes at 15w. Nintendo probably wants 2.5 hours - 3 hours at minimum with a handheld. Sure you can get the ROG Ally X and at 15w you can get decent battery life, because it packs a massive 80Wh battery and costs probably double what the Switch 2 would.
Maybe the bigger problem here is Nintendo's stubborness sticking with terribly low power output? 10W was feasible in handheld hardware a decade ago. But with today's high standards of performance, I would argue that 15-18W should be standard. And yes this means elaborate cooling and 60Wh+ battery. The way graphics computing has developed, absolute low power is not as feasible as once was.
Elaborate cooling and 60Wh+ battery will drive up cost, noise, and weight. Nintendo is making a mass market kid friendly device. Those tradeoffs will most certainly impact the appeal to a lot of people.
