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[yurinka]

Why do you keep making it about Sony vs. Nintendo? At no point in any of the posts in this thread has Celine said third parties make more money on Switch than PS. What he has correctly pointed is out is that there is a high number of third party sales on Switch.

Because comparing the revenue they make in Nintendo vs Sony (or vs PC) and the percentage of 3rd party sales vs the revenue we can see if the one they make on Switch is big or small and where the main 3rd party business is.

Do you have any examples of this that are day-and-date releases and not extremely late ports? The only recent day-and-date Switch/PlayStation release I can think of that wasn't an indie game is Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D and all indications are that that sold substantially better on the Switch.

As far as I know we only have the retail only, Japan only sales of the game. Which are not representative of total worldwide physical+digital sales: Japan only represents around 20% of the market, the percent of physical sales are way higher in Switch than in PS and the proportion of Switch vs PS sales in Japan is way skewed to Switch than in the rest of the world.

It's hard to compare day and date games from big publishers, because they normally release their games in PS and not in Switch (at least day one), and when they do they normally don't share sales.

We can compare instead the revenue make in PS vs Switch from Sony and Nintendo reports each quarter, or platform splits that the 3rd party publishers share sometimes (about their whole company, not only game specific).

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

There was 5 from Pokémon alone, plus all those Mario, Kirby and DK platformers.

Ah for some reason I thought Pokémon didn't show up until GBC. Makes more sense now.

 

[Hookshot]

I still have no idea why yurinka was upset with the fact that Nintendo 1st party games sold more than PlayStation 1st party games and tried to derail the thread with 3rd party game sales.

One more fact that probably will make him angrier than before: MK8D made more profits than all Sony 1st-party games on PS5 combined.

I try to keep impartial on here but we all know the true metric of success for a games company is not how many of their own games they sell to their fans, it’s how many kids they can make buy vbucks.

 

[Mozza]

Its sold more launch aligned, but not more in total yet. The final total was 1.537 billion so Switch has some way to go yet

Depends on the game. Switch doesn't have great sales for Sports games for example, so games like FIFA, NBA and MLB are likely to sell much more on PS than Switch.

I thought Sony had sold around 1.24 billion, my bad.

 

[Woopah]

Because comparing the revenue they make in Nintendo vs Sony (or vs PC) and the percentage of 3rd party sales vs the revenue we can see if the one they make on Switch is big or small and where the main 3rd party business is.

If we compare Capcom's sales on PS vs. PC, we'd see that PC was higher. Doesn't mean PS sales are poor.

If we compare Nintendo vs. Sony for first party sales, Nintendo will be way higher. Doesn't mean Sony's first party games on PS4/PS5 have sold low numbers

Do third party games sell more on PS than Switch? Yes. Does that make 700+ million a low number? No.

If third parties want to have higher sales from Nintendo, then they need to release more games. That is what we'll see from Switch 2.

Ah for some reason I thought Pokémon didn't show up until GBC. Makes more sense now.

For Nintendo the GBC is a model of GameBoy (like the DSi or Switch OLED). They don't count it as a separate platform

I thought Sony had sold around 1.24 billion, my bad.

That's what is was at in 2007, but of course PS2 continue to be sold for another 5 years.

 

[SHA]

Mmm, mobile numbers, Nintendo's done playing the old school graphics game with Playstation and Microsoft. The only thing I fear is mobile Xbox and Playstation will chase those numbers and leave traditional consoles behind.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Wii U delivered some beatings even though people call it a failure.

 

[Deerock71]

How many of those are remakes, remasters, or just a new port of a game?

 

[ArtHands]

They are lumped together, but I'm saying it should count if at least 1 million of those units are on PS5

GT7 has sold over 13 million units. I'd say its very unlikely that fewer than 1 million of those sales came from the PS5.

Otherwise it's not an accurate list, as you are excluding a whole bunch of Sony first party million sellers just because they are cross gen.

But they don't count in the list. That's the criteria in the list.

Not every platforms there in the list has cross-buy, it's only fair to omit cross-buy in that case.

 

[Woopah]

But they don't count in the list. That's the criteria in the list.

Not every platforms there in the list has cross-buy, it's only fair to omit cross-buy in that case.

So where are on the on the list would put things like GT7?

The criteria is first party games that have sold over 1 million units. If 1 million PS5 owners bought GT7, why does it matter if PS4 owners can buy it too?

 

[bender]

So where are on the on the list would put things like GT7?

The criteria is first party games that have sold over 1 million units. If 1 million PS5 owners bought GT7, why does it matter if PS4 owners can buy it too?

He's just trolling.

 

[K' Dash]

It’s amazing how Sony fanboys try to hijack every fucking thread, it’s hilarious.

They get this reaction when nobody is talking about PlayStation: