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UFC 313: Pereira vs. Ankalaev - T-mobile Arena - Paradise, Nevada - March 8

Who wins: Pereira vs. Ankalaev? Gaethje or Fiziev? Turner or Bahamondes?

  • Pereira, Gaethje, Turner.

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • Pereira, Fiziev, Turner.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Pereira, Gaethje, Bahamondes.

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • Pereira, Fiziev, Bahamondes.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Ankalaev, Gaethje, Turner.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ankalaev, Fiziev, Turner.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Ankalaev, Gaethje, Bahamondes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ankalaev, Fiziev, Bahamondes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Kings Field

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Had it 4-1. Alex did nothing after round 1. I like Alex but he’s a basic striker with crazy power but he faced someone who wasn’t intimidated by the aura.
 
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It's easy to post some backseat 20/20 thoughts regarding my man but..

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Main card deliverd. Will watch the prelims tomorrow.

Happy for Magomed, great game plan.
He was confident AF but his presser presence/demeanor... Yeah Idk.
 
StreetsofBeige

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Pereira looked like shit. Aside from a handful of head punches and a ton of calf kicks, he did nothing.

Just stood there like a zombie and couldnt figure out how to counter someone who is the aggressor. As the commentators said, when Pereira is on the backfoot he isnt good. He actually looks like he has no idea what to do.
 
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Gp1 said:
I know Alex isn't a prime technical fighter, but HOLLY SHIT

THIS IS 101 BOXING MISTAKE. LIKE FIRST CLASS.

ONE SHALL NOT CROSS FOOTING
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Pereira exposed.

- Be the aggressor. Alex no idea what to do when backfooting
- Grapple and pin him against the fence (that boring smothering stuff). Alex no idea what to do to get out of it, or reverse it so the other guy is against the fence
- Head hunt. Alex doesn't have a great chin, not great head defence. He got stunned a few times by punches

Be the attacker and dont be like victims of Mike Tyson who stood there like lame ducks waiting to be beaten down. When he's being hunted down, he's definitely not as good as he looks. The UFC commentators even said Alex is a totally different fighter when on the defensive backfoot.
 
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Gp1

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StreetsofBeige said:
Pereira exposed.

- Be the aggressor. Alex no idea what to do when backfooting
- Grapple and pin him against the fence (that boring smothering stuff). Alex no idea what to do to get out of it, or reverse it so the other guy is against the fence
- Head hunt. Alex doesn't have a great chin, not great head defence. He got stunned a few times by punches

Be the attacker and dont be like victims of Mike Tyson who stood there like lame ducks waiting to be beaten down. When he's being hunted down, he's definitely not as good as he looks. The UFC commentators even said Alex is a totally different fighter when on the defensive backfoot.
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At least Alex's takedown defenses were on point.

He's already training with Glover, just one call and he can get Machida on his camp. It would improve the other side of his game greatly.
 
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GymWolf said:
Pereira was terrified by the takedowns and he ended up fighting like dogbender, spamming leg kicks.
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Eh.

Poatan looked very focused yet very cautious; for good reasons. Investing in calf kicks is smart imho and like adesanya he's a patient fighter and it is obvious to a even room IQ person to see that the power/takedown-option/forward fearless pressure was a combination Alex hasn't really experienced at this level thus couldn't find his rhythm curtesy of said forward pressure and respecting Magomed's power and wrestling which in the end is a experience he needed and was long overdue.

I can go into details regarding why I think Magomed got the W but then again, even it was close, the pressure/octagon control plus some clean shots was the reason for M's W.

That's my take.
 
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EverydayBeast said:
People lose and you mma fans romanticize things like win streaks, and legacy. Now Pereria can actually chase a belt and it must be nice to not carry around that weight.
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Even DJ & Guru are about stories.

And yes being so active, no losses, "The face of the UFC" plus all the travelling media part countered with a thirsty nothing to lose dangerous opponent;

Season 10 Idk GIF by One Chicago
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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ÆMNE22A!C said:
Poatan looked very focused yet very cautious; for good reasons. Investing in calf kicks is smart imho and like adesanya he's a patient fighter and it is obvious to a even room IQ person to see that the power/takedown-option/forward fearless pressure was a combination Alex hasn't really experienced at this level thus couldn't find his rhythm curtesy of said forward pressure and respecting Magomed's power and wrestling which in the end is a experience he needed and was long overdue.
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Exactly.

When Alex isnt the hunter picking apart opponents backing up, the guy has no idea what he's doing.

Instead of backing up being chased, Ankalaev stepped forward, gave some calf kicks back, pinned him against the fence many times and punched him in the face. And Alex stood there looking clueless. Even the UFC commentators said he's not as good when being the guy being chased.

He doesnt even change his strategy when it was clear it's a close match and Ankalaev is doing all kinds of different things with sneaky punches or grappling. It's like he has one way of fighting..... be the aggressor, weaken the guy with leg kicks, punch him in the head.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
Exactly.

When Alex isnt the hunter picking apart opponents backing up, the guy has no idea what he's doing.

Instead of backing up being chased, Ankalaev stepped forward, gave some calf kicks back, pinned him against the fence many times and punched him in the face. And Alex stood there looking clueless. Even the UFC commentators said he's not as good when being the guy being chased.

He doesnt even change his strategy when it was clear it's a close match and Ankalaev is doing all kinds of different things with sneaky punches or grappling. It's like he has one way of fighting..... be the aggressor, weaken the guy with leg kicks, punch him in the head.
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First of all; my sincere apologies for that unnecessary response.

Yeah I get what your saying. Imho he should've been more aggressive/landing elbows/uppercuts/hooks in the pocket

Then again I've posted why he (who knows for sure) my reasons why that warrior go for broke mentality didn't manifested.

Again. A much needed experience.

On a side note I watch a lot of Muay Thai so yeah don't think I wasn't frustrated during the clinch and in the pocket moments!
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
It's like he has one way of fighting..... be the aggressor, weaken the guy with leg kicks, punch him in the head.
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Again, when you fight and win long enough on your go-to's (which will take over no matter your corners advice) and taking in the totally of this fights context it seems to me at least that because of my said reasons he was again, very cautious and unable/reluctant to adapt etc
 
GymWolf

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The takedowns was the major reason why he acted like that, against jiri, a dude more powerful and that can hit from weirder angles than anko, pereira had no problem knocking him down while jiri was advancing and he was retreating, look at the second fight, both ko were with jiri advancing and him countering.

But when you know that a dagestani can wrestlefuck you at any moment, you are not gonna be first or the aggressor.

The history is full of great strikers fucking up against grapplers because they were terrorized by the takedown threat, conor getting hit by a telegraphed huge overhand by khabib, o malley doing absolutely nothing against merab even if half the fight was standing, etc.

The fear of takedown make elite strikers fight much , much worse.

I doubt the 2 times glory kickboxing world champion was scared or impressed by ankolaev striking to the point of refusing to attack, cmon.
 
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Think you're missing quite some aspects in your analysis/conclusion which by extenstion doesn't really resonate with my own, which I won't repeat, view on why the fight went the way it did.
 
GymWolf

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ÆMNE22A!C said:
Think you're missing quite some aspects in your analysis/conclusion which by extenstion doesn't really resonate with my own, which I won't repeat, view on why the fight went the way it did.
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Ank had better striking than expected of course, but i think the fear of takedowns was the major thing that made pereira timid.

Dude was so nervous that he asked to glover if his takedown defence was good or not after the end of the first round.
 
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GymWolf said:
Ank had better striking than expected of course, but i think the fear of takedowns was the major thing that made pereira timid.

Dude was so nervous that he asked to glover if his takedown defence was good or not after the end of the first round.
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Nah. He doesn't have better striking.
We're talking in circles here; like I've said M's TD option just opened up his striking. Like Tom said if this was a straight up KB match Alex would be leagues above Magomed went it comes to "better" striking. Come on Wolf; can't you see that?
 
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GymWolf

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ÆMNE22A!C said:
Nah. He doesn't have better striking.
We're talking in circles here; like I've said M's TD option just opened up his striking. Like Tom said if this was a straight up KB match Alex would be leuges above Magomed went it comes to "better" striking. Come on Wolf; can't you see that?
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I said better striking than expected, not better striking than pereira.

Although i would give the speed advantage to ank.

Td threat opening space for the striking because ot idiminshed pereira aggressivity is what i'm saying since the beginning.
 
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Did we? M's striking was from what I've seen pretty solid. I personally wasn't omg M's striking looks unexpectedly better or something. Oh well. I'm a filthy casual I guess.
 
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GymWolf said:
I said better striking than expected, not better striking than pereira.

Although i would give the speed advantage to ank.

Td threat opening space for the striking because ot idiminshed pereira aggressivity is what i'm saying since the beginning.
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Yes and I've agreed on your latter point in all our back and forth's brother.
 
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