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[VG TECH] Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 PS5 & Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test
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Zoro7
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Brilliant!! That dude needs to be called out more often.Yet, I see you in every war-thread
Md Ray
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Md Ray
Member
Yet, I see you in every war-thread
what did you type to get this gif?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Here we were thinking xbox had the advantage and then the ps5 comes out swinging with the haymaker!
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Remember, 100% of DeS sales are digital because reasons
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
720p... not often but... mmh
I hate posting in these threads. I'm always reminded of that Rick and Morty szechuan sauce riot every time I click in one of them. No matter which console wins, there aren't any winners.
But God damn, after reading "parity is a win for PlayStation", "framerate is king" and "cross-gen doesn't count - let's wait for the real games to arrive" in every thread since Hitman 3, there's a lot of celebrating a very hollow victory in here.
The other side aren't any better, but a remaster of Tony Hawks 1+2 is where we draw the line here? Not Avengers? Not Mortal Shell or Destroy All Humans? This one here? This one specifically shows which console is best?
Really?
But God damn, after reading "parity is a win for PlayStation", "framerate is king" and "cross-gen doesn't count - let's wait for the real games to arrive" in every thread since Hitman 3, there's a lot of celebrating a very hollow victory in here.
The other side aren't any better, but a remaster of Tony Hawks 1+2 is where we draw the line here? Not Avengers? Not Mortal Shell or Destroy All Humans? This one here? This one specifically shows which console is best?
Really?
v_iHuGi
Banned
Yet, I see you in every war-thread
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Remind me which group of hardcores went for 6 months of “12 TFLOPS > 10 variable TFLOPS” “9 TFLOPS” “not real HW RT” “30-40% gaps are the minimum you can expect” “SFS allows 2-3x more bandwidth and more effective texture storage in RAM than what PS5’s GPU can handle” etc... celebration trip pre-launch...
TBiddy
Member
Parity in a remaster of some old ass games running on both gens is considered a 'win' by Team Blue now. Funny how the narrative shifts, depending on the results.
Barring the most obnoxious fanboys, not many people really believed that.
Barring the most obnoxious fanboys, not many people really believed that.
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Zoro7
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Exactly.
I mean I am bored of these threads but both sides give as good as they get. There are no winners....only pain.
And there being almost as many Xbox dickheads as PlayStation dickheads has what to do with Tony Hawks Pro Skater 1 from the Dreamcast with fancy graphics being the defining moment of this generation?
Get a grip.
Anybody with half a brain will tell you these games - none of them - are indicative of what we're going to have in 12 months time. If the next five games come out with an Xbox advantage, you'll all be backing off into conspiracy theories and "cross-gen doesn't really count".
So why not just act like adults, shrug your shoulders and play it where you'd like?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Don't forget that he will complain in every Xbox thread when ps is mentionned but the opposite is fine to him.Yet, I see you in every war-thread
Seriously complain would be a better username for him.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Good, so the upside is to believe that (not really buying that fully sorry, not yet... the 12 TFLOPS sustained > variable frequency 10 TFLOPS talk was quite pervasive and very much repeated as a talking point all around it as all the “intelligence” gained from the GitHub leak) people were then trolling just for the sake of pissing the other lot of.
Still, sure there are nasty forum dwellers on both sides that made the matter even worse.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Physiognomonics
Member
Tony Hawk have the same settings and pushes 120fps on both machines. I'd say it's a much better way to fairly compare 2 machines than 2 games having different settings and different framerate like Avengers or Hitman 3. BTW PS5 was running some scenes >50% better in Hitman 3 (41fps vs 60fps) and you think Hitman 3 is a better showcase for Xbox?
We already had the big games with native versions: COD (RT shadows at 60fps or 120fps), NBA2K21 (exclusive next-gen assets) and Destiny 2 (120fps). PS5 has won all those 3 comparisons. The next big games are BF6 and next COD (so probably for the end of the year).
Panajev2001a
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I already do, I play on both and?
This is not a defining moment for the generation, but surely a sore spot for those that for 6+ months pushed ahead and gloated about those kind of bullet points and FUD.
Xbox was/is expected to have an advantage (especially in some scenarios a non trivial one based on the specs and what we know about the machines), but much smaller and some back and forth s on specific points, but the talk back then (up until launch) was way way off that.
I find both XSX and PS5 really. Ice machines and happy with both as a customers, what grinds my gears more than the early CoreX fanbase is the XSS... 512 GB of SSD, digital only XSX could have hit $349-399 and unified the specs but no... :/...
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DJ12
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Quit blaming the devs, it's Microsoft that cancelled the "gimp PS5 version" fund at the last minute.
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See - this is the problem. This is how I know you haven't played Hitman 3. In which case, why on earth would you give a shit about how it plays on either console?
DJ12
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Your posting history disagrees
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TBiddy
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Most of them were trolling, I assume. But on paper, it makes sense that 12 > 10, so if people have been focusing only on those two numbers, I get where they are coming from. That said, I have been arguing since the reveals of both consoles, that game will look and play more similar than ever (which, so far, has been the case) and that the difference will primarily come down to the skills of the 1st party studios.. where, to be honest, we both know who's ahead.
I seriously think you're the only one on the entire internet (barring some warriors on Twitter) who actually seriously believe that Hitman 3 was 'better' on the PS5. Every single time I see someone argue this, it's you. It's always you.
Physiognomonics
Member
The aim is to eventually find out which hardware is performing the best, not which game version is the best. Yes Hitman 3 is the best on XSX, but that doesn't mean the Xbox hardware is outperforming the PS5 in that game.
I'll use my Dark Souls 3 comparison again: the game is 900p 30fps on XSX and 1080p 60fps on PS5. So the best version is on PS5. But does it prove the PS5 hardware is better than XSX hardware using this game alone?
Concern
Member
What does it matter? You haven't even played it.
You're taking one scene from one location with one weapon - all away from where the game guides you - and using that as a performance metric. Do me a favour, take that exact same approach for Tony Hawks and see how far along that thought process you can get before you realise how daft it is.
SportsFan581
Member
They are having a hard time coping with the loss of their de facto 50% advantage from last gen.
They drone on and on about MS and 12TF, who frigging cares. Looks like it was a smart move by MS, if they had gone 10TF, they'd be even further behind. Both boxes are $500 in the same configuration, it doesn't matter if the performance is basically the same. LOL That's not a win for anybody.
Concern
Member
Yet, I see you in every war-thread
Funny how many fanboys are infatuated with me. 8 year old account with 300 posts.... definitely not an alt lol
It's a sore spot for the emotionally backward, just like how every mention of Avengers and Hitman 3 is a sore spot for the emotionally backward on the other side.
This has got nothing to do with the attitude of a small number of idiots in 2020. It's pure tribalism and I'd be willing to bet you when Xbox wins the next one all these same people will be reaching for the excuse book and inadvertently discounting the great Tony Hawks win in the very same breath.
Iced Arcade
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
When is the next face off of a real next gen game happening?
Because PS5 winning those is more interesting (funny) than it having slightly better settings in games like these that were not built for PS5/Series X.
Because PS5 winning those is more interesting (funny) than it having slightly better settings in games like these that were not built for PS5/Series X.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
For many Xbox fanboys, parity is not even acceptable.They are having a hard time coping with the loss of their de facto 50% advantage from last gen.
They drone on and on about MS and 12TF, who frigging cares. Looks like it was a smart move by MS, if they had gone 10TF, they'd be even further behind. Both boxes are $500 in the same configuration, it doesn't matter if the performance is basically the same. LOL That's not a win for anybody.
Also, to your point, PS5 DE for $400 will be able to match a $500 XSX in performance.
DJ12
Member
Maybe when you come out of the closet, you can attain the same level as me though.Mine doesn't even hold a candle to yours tho
I mean, I guess neither of us owns a ps5 or series x.
I'm a PC gamer, I haven't turned on my PS4 for about 3 years. But sometimes this stuff is just too funny to ignore.
Gediminas
Banned
PS5 cost 399$.They are having a hard time coping with the loss of their de facto 50% advantage from last gen.
They drone on and on about MS and 12TF, who frigging cares. Looks like it was a smart move by MS, if they had gone 10TF, they'd be even further behind. Both boxes are $500 in the same configuration, it doesn't matter if the performance is basically the same. LOL That's not a win for anybody.
SportsFan581
Member
While being locked to a more expensive digital store, sure. MS could easily do the same, nothing top secret there. In the same configuration the price is the same.
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Tickle My Tendies
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Interesting results the last week or so:
Like a Dragon - Tie (other than different shadow filtering solutions, right?)
Avengers - Series wins (pretty clear)
Crash 4 - PS5 wins (seemed pretty close to me though)
Tony Hawk Remasters - PS5 wins (pretty clear)
Like a Dragon - Tie (other than different shadow filtering solutions, right?)
Avengers - Series wins (pretty clear)
Crash 4 - PS5 wins (seemed pretty close to me though)
Tony Hawk Remasters - PS5 wins (pretty clear)
Concern
Member
Physiognomonics
Member
Actually I almost always said the best version is on XSX, but that comparison can't tell us which hardware outperforms the other using the very different settings / framerate data. See my previous Dark Souls 3 analogy.
How do you think people are benchmarking and comparing GPUs when a new one is released? They do tons of comparisons using the same settings and the same games each times.
Have you already seen someone compraing 2 GPUs by using different resolutions, capping the framerate at 60fps, so the GPU using the low resolution is locked at 60fps then deciding that GPU has being outperformed by the other GPU, this one running at 44% higher resolution but with a min framerate 30% lower? Ridiculous. You just have to admit Hitman 3 (during gameplay) canno't be used as a benchmark here. Nobody is doing it with destop GPU for a good reason because there are simple but strict rules to fairly compare 2 hardware (2 PCs or 2 consoles). Otherwise you don't compare hardware, you just compare different (software) settings.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Time to stop posting this is getting pathetic.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But MS didn't, so that's not one of the available options right now. Also, not many people have problems with digital game downloads -- not anymore. >50% sales have been digital this year anyway. Next year the % will be even higher.
bender
What time is it?
SportsFan581
Member
Technically, it isn't. The PS5 is $499, the PS5 DE is $399.
I guess we could run some numbers on what percentage of PS5s are in which configuration and determine if the DE has any relevance to the general market at this point.
Heisenberg007
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MasterCornholio
Member
Outriders is the next battle ground, brother.
Did the developers ever make good on their promise?
bender
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DenchDeckard
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Let's throw a spanner in the works.
What ate the loading times between the two versions?
All we heard about from the ps5 is how much faster the ssd is. Twice as fast easily. If its not loading games as twice as fast as the xbox is that not a loss for the ps5?
And what is the reason that games aren't loading twice as fast on ps5?
What ate the loading times between the two versions?
All we heard about from the ps5 is how much faster the ssd is. Twice as fast easily. If its not loading games as twice as fast as the xbox is that not a loss for the ps5?
And what is the reason that games aren't loading twice as fast on ps5?
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skit_data
Member
Now I think that 1080p/120 FPS advertisement was all a cruel joke by Sony and Activision to provide Gaffers with some entertainment
”Hey guys, wouldnt it be fun to see the meltdowns among Sony fanboys if we put 1080p in the tweet?”
”Yeeeah, and then we get to see the Xbox fanboys meltdown when the framerate/res comparisons show up”
”Fuck yeah, put 1080p in the tweet, also write progresion just to let english teachers also have a meltdown as well. I fucking hated english in primary school.”
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Which leads to a bigger problem in our society.... Don't drink and post on social media.
DenchDeckard
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The best way to enjoy these threads is to truely not care either way. Own both consoles, enjoy both consoles massively and be happy they are closer than ever before.
I still want vrr on my ps5 though!
I still want vrr on my ps5 though!
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bender
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