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[Exede]

I remember that it was good and that there was a ton of crying in it.

 

[Boneless]

The game was good, especially the short stories. However, the main antagonist was terrrible.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

You also had Blue Dragon, Enchanted Arms, and Infinite Undiscovery.

XBox 360 really tried to get some JRPGs.

Also Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean 4, The Last Remnant, Eternal Sonata…

360 had a pretty kickass lineup of JRPGs and other Japanese games in its first few years and still no Japanese gamers bought it. Seems kind of unfair.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

It's also a crime we don't have a remaster. Same for Blue Dragon.

 

[Muffdraul]

I remember liking this game, right up to the very end, when I just stopped playing it instead of fighting the final boss. I didn't fight him and give up, I never even initiated the battle. Maybe there was a side quest I wanted to finish first? I dunno, all I know is I stopped before finishing it and gave no fucks. I thought it was an OK game... not outstanding or spectacular. Let's just say I was a huge FF fan and once I went back and played all of the ones I'd missed out on because they never came to the US (FFII, FFIII, FFV) I came to realize that Hironobu Sakaguchi was never the reason I loved FF.

 

[Krathoon]

It's also a crime we don't have a remaster. Same for Blue Dragon.

Star Ocean 4 and Tales of Vesperia have remasters on Steam. There are cheap keys for them.

 

[Krathoon]

Oh, The Last Remnant also has it's definitive version on Steam. They never upgraded the 360 version.

 

[KiteGr]

Don't care. It was a 360 exclusive. We can't even play it anymore.

 

[Krathoon]

Hah. I found Eternal Sonata for $25 on eBay.

 

[Krathoon]

They really need to get the 360 emulator working right so we don't lose these games.

 

[Killer8]

 

[Krathoon]

Bah. I just found out that the PS3 version of Eternal Sonata is the better version. It has extra stuff.

Shit.

 

[DEAD ORIGINAL]

Yes that queen was wow back in the day great music too

 

[adamsapple]

Bah. I just found out that the PS3 version of Eternal Sonata is the better version. It has extra stuff.

Shit.

It's a Tales of Vesperia PS3 situation, the original game is complete, nothing was cut out. They just added more to the later PS3 release. You're getting the same story.

 

[bender]

Hah. I found Eternal Sonata for $25 on eBay.

 

[Krathoon]

It's a Tales of Vesperia PS3 situation, the original game is complete, nothing was cut out. They just added more to the later PS3 release. You're getting the same story.

That is why it is good to get the Steam version of Vesperia.

 

[adamsapple]

That is why it is good to get the Steam version of Vesperia.

All future re-releases after the PS3 have had all that extra content and localized as well, so any of the Vesperia remasters is now the 'definitive' release.

 

[Brigandier]

Would love to see a remaster of this game but let's be real that isn't ever happening

 

[Spiral1407]

But we did?

 

[ungalo]

I have to flex here. Never played more than 1 hour of it lol but that intro is embedded in my brain

the intro is the best moment in the game lol

i don't want to say it's overrated because i like the game, makes me feel nostalgic, but i would totally understand someone saying it's just okay

 

[Buggy Loop]

Sonic unleashed just got a pc port with 4k full 120fps. And with that came a decompiler, so just a matter of time for other 360 games to get pc ports

What a strange fucking choice lol. Thanks to whoever found how but Sonic unleashed in all the 360 lineup is such an odd choice.

 

[Topher]

This for me was up there in terms of great jrpgs, just everything about it was spot on. I was sure it was going to get a sequel but here we are and nothing, just a crying shame because it was so deserving. I remember getting 1000/1000 in it and it's still one of my all time favorite and memorable games.

Sir.....we have established templates for gaming "crimes". Please note for the future....

if I as a consumer have no access to MSRP pricing, it should not exist.
It used to be that official retailers/partners like Media Markt for example, always upheld MSRP pricing.
But no MSRP pricing does not exist. Not a single card released this year could be found even existing at MSRP here in Europe.
If consumer have no access to MSRP and not even a chance at access.... what's the point on advertising it?! Should be illegal.

Starting prices (so cheapest prices I personally saw available at for 1 nanosecond for cheapest, loudest ventus pos cards)
5080 - 4k$
5070ti - 950$
9070xt - 900$

I understand economy and demand/supply laws but this is clearly a controlled market.
Promote cards at MSRP. have a fictional model that is at msrp (never to be seen) and sell at crazy prices.
Then big uncle asks Lisa Sue at a dinner table to collaborate on AMD side too and do the same thing. It is all controlled.

Used to be, I was able to buy anything I wanted not only for msrp pricing but promotional pricing. Retailers had to fight over customers.
What happened now? Every single device/component/console released nowadays have to be hunted down for any price you can find it at.
The prices now not only are insane to begin with (msrp) but even that does not exist and everything is more expensive.
Not long ago, when 10XX cards were new, you were able to get them normally. No problem. Then crypto started in the middle of that generation and then covid few years later.

My point being - If customer is not able to EVER find advertised product for msrp pricing... there should be a legal body controlling that. Because they shouldn't get the privilege of advertising price X when in reality price X is not possible and even partners and biggest retailers sell for price X+50%....

If I, as a gamer, have no access to the advertised FPS, it should not exist.
It used to be that official benchmarks from reviewers, like Digital Foundry for example, always showed accurate FPS numbers.
But no, now advertised FPS does not exist. Not a single game released this year runs at the claimed "optimized" performance on my rig

If a gamer has no access to the FPS numbers and not even a chance at achieving them.. what's the point of advertising it?! Should be illegal

Starting FPS (so the highest FPS I personally saw available for 1 nanosecond while looking at the ground in an empty rom):
Cyberpunk 5099 - 144 FPS (drops to 27 FPS in combat)
Elden Scrolls VI - 120 FPS (in the main menu, but 40 FPS in the game)
Call of Duty: Yearly Scam Edition - 200 FPS (with 80% resolution scaling and all settings on low)

I understand hardware limitations and optimization challenges, but this is clearly a controlled performance market.
Promote a game at "Ultra 4K 120 FPS," have a fictional bechmark that reaches it (never to be seen in real gameplay), and then sell the game with broken optimization.
Then big uncle Nvidia asks Uncle Todd at a dinner table to collaborate on AMD side too and do the same thing. It is all controlled used to be, I was able to buy a game, tweak a few settings, and hit stable FPS with no issue. Devs had to optimize to compete for customers.
What happens now? Every single game/component/driver update has to be hunted down for stable performance at any settings you can find.
The FPS numbers now not only are inflated to begin with (advertised FPS) but even that does not exist, and everything runs worse than expected.

Not long ago, when GTX 10XX cards were new, games just worked. No problem. Then RTX happened, then up scaling, then frame generation, and now we have 15 layers of fake FPS

My point being, if the customer is not able to EVER achieve the advertised FPS without a NASA supercomputer.. there should be a legal body controlling that.
Because they shouldn’t get the privilege of advertising "smooth 120 FPS" when in reality, it’s "120 FPS in a cut scene and 48 FPS in the actual game."

 

[FoxMcChief]

Overrated trash game, tbh. People just were starving for Xbox's own Final Fantasy. This ain't it. Would play any of the modern FF titles, even the worst ones, over this title.

 

[FoxMcChief]

FF15 or FF16 are also acceptable names.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Releasing these games exclusively on 360 was such a dumb move.

MS literally funded it to get sales in Japan. Same with Blue Dragon.

Incredible designs by Inoue.

Multiple discs, Sakaguchi and Uematsu, relevant themes about mortality and memories.

Better than anything post IX.

 

[namenotfound]

I still have the disc. Shame that Mistwalker didn't keep getting funded to churn out console/PC JRPGs. PS Vita to present, they should have been a part of the JRPG resurgence on consoles/PC. I like Lost Odyssey more than any FF since 10

 

[kiphalfton]

Given the state of gaming post Xbox 360, it's probably for the better.

 

[Sooner]

Fantastic game, but doesn't need a sequel. A different JRPG, from the same team (in LO style, not Blue Dragon style), would be great.

It's thier own fault. Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon doomed themselves by releasing only on Xbox, the platform that was least interested in those types of games. Had these games been on PlayStation and Nintendo, they might be a major player in AAA JRPGs today.

 

[Krathoon]

There is also Blue Dragon Plus, the lesser known sequel on the Nintendo DS with the confusing name.

 

[Spiral1407]

What a strange fucking choice lol. Thanks to whoever found how but Sonic unleashed in all the 360 lineup is such an odd choice.

Sonic Unleashed is GOATED and I will not accept any slander!

But in all seriousness, you can clearly see why it was chosen when you look at WHO developed those tools. Most of them are big in the sonic modding community and have been tinkering with hedgehog engine games for years. Recompilation requires a good understanding about how the original game worked, so this was objectively the best game they could have chosen to work on.

Oh and the demand for Unleashed on PC was a lot bigger than you'd think. There were Xenia forks made specifically to run the game better.

 

[Krathoon]

Oh. That was the werewolf Sonic game.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Fantastic game. I wouldn't mind a sequel but I would rather get a new game from Mistwalker since every game they released is most of the time a new JRPG not based on any other games they released before and they are always fantastic. Fantasian Neo Dimension, Blue Dragon and The Last Story comes to mind

 

[adamsapple]

What a strange fucking choice lol. Thanks to whoever found how but Sonic unleashed in all the 360 lineup is such an odd choice.

Sonic fans be crazy like that.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Sonic fans be crazy like that.

True dat

 

[saintjules]

This is in light of expedition 33 isn't it?

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

Better than putting it on PS3. The games are available for sale right now and work on modern systems.

Someone with a PS5 only can't even play FFXIII right now.

For preservation sure, but we don't usually wait 15-20 years after release to play games. Better sales means a successful Sakaguchi after Square. Who knows how many worth playing console RPG we lost due to 360 and Wii struggling to sell these games