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Tekken 7: Fated Retribution, Akuma/Gouki announced as playable character

Nikokuno

Member
No, all I'm saying is that the Tekken brand and characters don't have enough popularity to stand on their own. Street Fighter a more well known property, so putting a guest character in it puts more eyes on the game, and expands the audience to SF fans too.

My guess is that this is because Tekken isn't really making that much money, but it's just a guess.

Nah its because 3D gameplay vs 2D gameplay with a grain of SF II nostalgia. Tekken is doing great overall, still making games since Tekken with no long stop. It's a healthy brand and if I remember well doing better U/SF/SSFIV on Arcade.

so putting a guest character in it puts more eyes on the game, and expands the audience to SF fans too.

Yep, especially in the West.
 

Sayah

Member
No, all I'm saying is that the Tekken brand and characters don't have enough popularity to stand on their own. Street Fighter a more well known property, so putting a guest character in it puts more eyes on the game, and expands the audience to SF fans too.

My guess is that this is because Tekken isn't really making that much money, but it's just a guess.

Tekken brand has been standing well on its own for 20 years.
There has been a decline in console sales but it still sells well enough. TTT2 sold close to 2 million. A lot of fighting games wish they could reach that number.

The developers have also indicated that Tekken 7 is the most successful arcade Tekken title in franchise history and I imagine it's because they've added features like revenge match and have higher prices.
 
So, is Hei going to be yet another character who will live through SGS? That move has to be the most unreliable killing tool in the history of video games.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Is this a PC version or something? I don't remember the graphics looking this good.

Its a complete engine upgrade of their graphical rendering techniques. Its not supposed to look like the initial Arcade release.

Damn. Well that only means I'll thoroughly enjoy beating the shit out of this Jin dude.

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Good luck.

He deserves it.

If we're really thinking reasonablly...Jin did do all that shit in 6 to save the world....and he pushed everyone away including Xiao because of that.

He's that 'tragic hero' type that you just want to strangle, but his reasons were good atleast. He still has his mom in his head even after all this time
 
Well damn, they are taking the guest star of Akuma canon as hell! Didn't expect that.

After the whole Mika thing this is pretty hilarious

Sure, you remove that skirt, and pull her panties all up in her ass, then you got the Mika thing.

He deserves it.

Yeah. Dude was good, now he's a dick like the rest of the males in his family. Shame too, he destructed their fighting style in Tekken 4 to the point of being too awesome, but he became a dick afterwards in the sequels.
 

KTallguy

Banned
Tekken brand has been standing well on its own for 20 years.
There has been a decline in console sales but it still sells well enough. TTT2 sold close to 2 million. A lot of fighting games wish they could reach that number.

The developers have also indicated that Tekken 7 is the most successful arcade Tekken title in franchise history and I imagine it's because they've added features like revenge match and have higher prices.

Tekken definitely has a storied history, just I don't think the brand is that relevant anymore. I don't know much about Arcade sales, but it's only relevant to Japan's shrinking arcade market.

TTT2 selling 2 million isn't bad though. I wonder if Tekken 7 will keep up the trend. I also wish I knew how the F2P Tekken did.
 

ElFly

Member
The current game exists in arcade

Harada a while ago mentioned graphical improvements, along with story stuff and other suprises. My guess being those redesigns and akuma and possible other fight streeters and some stuff we can't guess.

Will the arcades be upgraded to these graphics?
 

Sayah

Member
Tekken definitely has a storied history, just I don't think the brand is that relevant anymore. I don't know much about Arcade sales, but it's only relevant to Japan's shrinking arcade market.

TTT2 selling 2 million isn't bad though. I wonder if Tekken 7 will keep up the trend. I also wish I knew how the F2P Tekken did.

It wouldn't be selling 2 million if it wasn't relevant anymore.

And that 2 million figure is for a spin off series that released at the very end of a console generation in the same year as Dead or Alive 5, Virtua Fighter 5: FS, new Blazblue, Skullgirls, SoulCalibur V, Street Fighter X Tekken, and Persona 4 Arena. 2012 was jam packed with fighters so 2 million is pretty good considering the competition.

And as I mentioned, the most recent title has been a huge success in the arcades.

It's very relevant as a franchise. It wouldn't be getting a sequel if it was dead in the water.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Will the arcades be upgraded to these graphics?

>_> Tekken 7 Fated Retribution IS the Arcade version.

They usually fold all pre console launch Arcade enhancements into the console release, plus more extra stuff.
 

Ferrio

Banned
Scrapping TxSF might be a really smart move. Throw it all in T7 so you're not competing against your own game.

Really hope they nail the online. I'd love a perfect online T7 and SFV next year.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Scrapping TxSF might be a really smart move. Throw it all in T7 so you're not competing against your own game.

Really hope they nail the online. I'd love a perfect online T7 and SFV next year.
Who said they were scrapping TxSF?
 
I think it's a pretty cool plot twist. And honestly is it anymore ridiculous than the Mishima family starting WWIII?

I don't mean 'ridiculous' in terms of silly; that's Tekken's bread and butter. I mean that Harada allowed Street Fighter to basically co-opt the Tekken narrative at the point where the 20 year long story is finally wrapping up. It's a 1000x bigger troll move by Harada than Lucky Chloe.
 

CSX

Member
Loving the new costumes. Finally getting some new wardrobes after a decade for a lot of these characters lol...

The stages in the trailer look like different versions of the current stages in T7. A destroyed version of the Mishima Dojo stage and then a daytime version of the rooftop stage .

Looks like it's following the new stage model back in the T5 and T5DR days.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I don't mean 'ridiculous' in terms of silly; that's Tekken's bread and butter. I mean that Harada allowed Street Fighter to basically co-opt the Tekken narrative at the point where the 20 year long story is finally wrapping up. It's a 1000x bigger troll move by Harada than Lucky Chloe.

If tekken characters started showing up in SF on the regular, would that be an acceptable trade off?
 

KTallguy

Banned
It wouldn't be selling 2 million if it wasn't relevant anymore.

And that 2 million figure is for a spin off series that released at the very end of a console generation in the same year as Dead or Alive 5, Virtua Fighter 5: FS, new Blazblue, Skullgirls, SoulCalibur V, Street Fighter X Tekken, and Persona 4 Arena. 2012 was jam packed with fighters so 2 million is pretty good considering the competition.

And as I mentioned, the most recent title has been a huge success in the arcades.

It's very relevant as a franchise. It wouldn't be getting a sequel if it was dead in the water.

It's getting a sequel but from what I understand, the budget is pretty low for a game made in 2015. Namco also said TTT2 missed targets on release. Out performed by Soul Calibur, of all things...

In their financial report released today, Namco-Bandai specified that Tekken Tag Tournament 2 has fallen short of their expected sales for the title. Namco was hoping that the game would have hit 1.7 million copies shipped to retailers at the end of March 2013, but it ended up short with only 1.5 million copies shipped.

Putting a Akuma in will definitely draw in new fans, although I wonder how much it will change the downward trend. When you're selling 8.3 million copies of Tekken 3 in 1997, plus profits from the much more vibrant arcade scene at that time, you're looking at a much larger profit. Considering how much AAA games cost these days, I bet those guys are under a lot of pressure to deliver a lot with a little.
 

DEATH™

Member
It's getting a sequel but from what I understand, the budget is pretty low for a game made in 2015. Namco also said TTT2 missed targets on release. Out performed by Soul Calibur, of all things...



Putting a Akuma in will definitely draw in new fans, although I wonder how much it will change the downward trend. When you're selling 8.3 million copies of Tekken 3 in 1997, plus profits from the much more vibrant arcade scene at that time, you're looking at a much larger profit. Considering how much AAA games cost these days, I bet those guys are under a lot of pressure to deliver a lot with a little.

Thats misguided figures. Soul Calibur was released long time ago (more than a year I think) when that figure came out compared to Tag 2 that came out recently. Tag 2 is still selling at that point and Eventhubs do not want to point that out.
 
Tekken Tag 2 deserves so much more success. What an incredible game. Netcode was damn near perfect too. Me and my boys have spent too many hours playing 4 player matches with beers.

BC that bitch asap!
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
They announced Akuma before my main man Lee.

Harada with the priorities.
 

Piers

Member
Yeah. Dude was good, now he's a dick like the rest of the males in his family. Shame too, he destructed their fighting style in Tekken 4 to the point of being too awesome, but he became a dick afterwards in the sequels.

Tekken in general has this annoying obsession with making characters randomly switch intentions. It's not even in a grey area for some, it's just "I am bored of being evil/good!!"
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Tekken in general has this annoying obsession with making characters randomly switch intentions. It's not even in a grey area for some, it's just "I am bored of being evil/good!!"

Jin is grey though. Because he wasn't actually evil and still isn't. His entire intention was to kill the Devil Gene before it caused more suffering, and kill Azazel who would cause far more suffering than he did through his war.

Even if its dumb, he wasn't just trying to be a villain, he was pretending to be one in order to lure Azazel out. He still cares about the people who love/ed him, like Jun and Xiao. He just doesn't want them involved so they won't be hurt by his crusade
 
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