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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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Cipherr

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Well, so much for a DCCU movie series.

Oh please, they are still going to go for it. They can't stop now; they have committed to doing what Marvels doing, so that ship has sailed. They may reign in a few budgets a bit. But they aren't cancelling the universe no matter how bad the films are.
 
I feel bad that I'm enjoying all of the bad reviews. I guess I really am a marvel fanboy

I'm not going to give you that easy avatar quote

Work harder boy

I wouldn't say I'm ENJOYING the bad reviews. I really wanted this to be good. But I'm not surprised in the slightest, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't getting amusement from the meltdowns, 180s, and memes this is spawning.
 

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well not really...yet
Re: the script

It could be that Terrio basically only punched up the dialog, and the story, structure, etc is still all Goyer
 
I feel bad that I'm enjoying all of the bad reviews. I guess I really am a marvel fanboy
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Your profile pic is literally the most quotable one ever on this forum.
 
True.

I don't think Aang Lee's Hulk is much to aspire to though.

it should be for some people. everything's gotten cookie cutter.

only xmen and nolan are handling good character stuff and singer will probably leave the franchise soon (to the cheers of fanboys) and nolan's gone for good.
 

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Ang Lee's Hulk is legit one of the most underrated comic flicks

You'll never get a better Bruce Banner than Eric Bana
 

Dalek

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it should be for some people. everything's gotten cookie cutter.

only xmen and nolan are handling good character stuff and singer will probably leave the franchise soon (to the chagrin of fanboys) and nolan's gone for good.

Which X-Men are getting good character stuff, again?
 

icespide

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I genuinely hope suicide squad is good and gets the DCU back on track. the MCU has terrible villains so it's really the only thing DCU has going for it after BvS
 

Toxi

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it should be for some people. everything's gotten cookie cutter.

only xmen and nolan are handling good character stuff and singer will probably leave the franchise soon (to the chagrin of fanboys) and nolan's gone for good.
If the best defense one can offer for Ang Lee's Hulk is "It's not cookie cutter," that's confirmation Aang Lee's Hulk fucking sucks.

Even the visuals, while creative and often stunning, function as little more than annoying gimmicks. "CAN YOU TELL THIS IS A COMIC BOOK MOVIE?"
 
That chart isn't so much the Marvel formula as it is the popcorn movie hero formula. Star Wars checks off most of those boxes.

  • The hero starts out naive and quick to fight, but must learn what it takes to be truly heroic. Along the way, he will come into possession of a signature weapon... (Luke, his father's lightsaber)
  • ...But will also have to deal with the death (Or seeming death) of a white-haired, bearded old mentor/father figure. (Obi-Wan Kenobi)
  • Eventually, our hero squares against an enemy with very similar powers, but an opposing ideology, bonus points if the villain is someone with a personal connection to the hero. (Darth Vader)
  • And in the second one, a figure from our hero's past who was thought to be gone forever will return with a vendetta against the hero and/or his dad. (Darth Vader in the Empire Strikes Back)
Hell, Kung-Fu Panda checks off most of those boxes.

All valid points.

But in this specific instance I don't feel that comparing Star Wars to the MCU is the best comparison.

I'd say that Star Wars is just 3 or 4 movies (I don't count the prequels) in a singular series that's been spread out over what is now 30? 40 years? And that their story is supposedly centered around the Skywalker family from what I understand. I haven't been really into Star Wars in years.

Granted with the MCU they all feed into one larger universe but it just seems different when you're getting them several times a year over consecutive years.

Fuck it. It's all Disney anyway these days.

I'll still enjoy the Marvel flicks for what they are and I hope I'll enjoy this. I tell my kids all the time how lucky they are. The Golden Age of super hero movies. If you would have told 6-year old me I'd even be having this discussion one day I'd tell you to shut up.
 

Bronx-Man

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Ang Lee's Hulk is pretty damn admirable. Still surprised it even exists though, it be like talking about Wes Anderson's X-Men or Terrence Malick's Superman.
 

nib95

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I knew it'd be a bit of a flop critically speaking. The only two of his films I've actually enjoyed or thought were half decent were Dawn of the Dead and 300, and even then only in a loosely entertaining, not taking anything too seriously way. Sucker Punch was utter dog shite, Man of Steel pretty poor, Watchmen only average. I don't know why Warner Brothers and DC have so much faith in him. In any case, still willing to give it a go.
 
Which X-Men are getting good character stuff, again?

x2 and dofp. did you miss stryker and wolverine, magneto and xavier, wolverine and xavier, mystique (even with a barely there jlaw) and xavier. freaking xavier AND xavier lmao

it's a narrow set of characters but he does damn good work with some of the players on the board. you don't get melodrama in other comic book movies aside from nolan's films tbh. it's a huge strength of the series for me.

If the best defense one can offer for Ang Lee's Hulk is "It's not cookie cutter," that's confirmation Aang Lee's Hulk fucking sucks.

Even the visuals, while creative and often stunning, function as little more than annoying gimmicks. "CAN YOU TELL THIS IS A COMIC BOOK MOVIE?"

no i don't wanna bother defending hulk again that's why. but it has excellent acting from bana, nolte, connelly and sam elliot. and the soundtrack is so good.

plus it's the most disturbed bruce banner. the only hulk on film that i actually feel sorry for.
 
Ang Lee Hulk is the genesis of "tried something, didn't exactly work out". Art film introspection mixed with hulk dogs, comic book panel transitions, and a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE third act.

Still, great score by Danny Elfman, the greatest of comic book movie composers.
 

213372bu

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Wow, going over this thread still (page 14) and this shit is more entertaining than Netflix.

Can't wait for the sequel to this review thread.

Ghostbusters
 
Damn. 40% on RT? Critics sure aren't liking it. Thought that it would start off relatively high before dropping down to 75%-80%.

Going to wait for my favorite reviewers to watch the movie to better give me an idea of what I should expect going into the movie.
 
I love Snyder simply because with every goddamn movie the man makes he breaks the internet

But seriously if this movie's RT score ends up falling below Green Lantern then they gotta scale the dude back just a bit. Make him producer or visual designer or logistics cheerleader but shit, the DCEU ain't gonna be catching up to Marvel in the long term with these mixed ass reviews. At this point DC has established that they won't go the Marvel route of one liners and relatively bright stuff, so the only alternate route is operatic full-fledged dramatic madness a la Mad Max: Fury Road. The problem is that Based God Snyder can't quite pull off that kind of organized insanity the same way that George Miller can.

BRING IN GEORGE MILLER

BELIEVE
 

Toxi

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Ang Lee Hulk is the genesis of "tried something, didn't exactly work out". Art film introspection mixed with hulk dogs, comic book panel transitions, and a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE third act.

Still, great score by Danny Elfman, the greatest of comic book movie composers.
The climax of the movie is so goddamn bad. It's almost intentionally bad.
 
Good lord I can only imagine what would've happened if Star Wars had the same reception. Everbody would've been strangling eachother and we'd all jump off a cliff or something.


This thread is something else tho. Thanks for the laughs, GAF.
 
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