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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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rjinaz

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Scores are disappointing. Looks like my prediction of 72 is way off. Still exited to see it on Monday. Bet it does very will regardless.

Still...disappointing...
 
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inm8num2 said:
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Who's that? Snyder?
What the hell did he ever win an academy award for?
 
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Obliterator said:
Even though a lot of the reviews say Ben makes a solid Batman I'm really curious what people will think about him. To most general audiences Bale is the definitive Batman and people lived those films. From what I understand Batfleck is totally different so maybe that will help aince its not the same sort of comparison
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Bale is probably the definitive Batman for them because the live-action competition is incredibly lacking.

I can understand liking the Nolan films overall for various reasons, but Bale being a major part of that is harder for me to understand. D:
 
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StaticJam said:
I was suggesting hypocrisy but please continue to be a dismissive ass.
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Or, maybe, the movie tries to be funny at points and drops the ball stupidly hard, and, as has been pointed out in the actual reviews not just the blurbs posted, it can't nail down story direction, tonal consistency, art direction, or pacing.

But no it's not just like Iron Man that's obviously why people are bitching.
 
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Fuck that's disappointing. Was really hoping DC would be able to boot up a cinematic universe to rival Marvel's.

Zack Snyder AGAIN fucks up by making the film far too serious.

Looks like the DCTV Arrowverse will remain the best adapted DC content for some time.
 
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Toxi

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GlenChivas said:
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the Marvel flicks. Own them all. But they're all basically the same movie, structurally. Except for Winter Soldier. That movie fucking rocked.

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That chart isn't so much the Marvel formula as it is the popcorn movie hero formula. Star Wars checks off most of those boxes.

  • The hero starts out naive and quick to fight, but must learn what it takes to be truly heroic. Along the way, he will come into possession of a signature weapon... (Luke, his father's lightsaber)
  • ...But will also have to deal with the death (Or seeming death) of a white-haired, bearded old mentor/father figure. (Obi-Wan Kenobi)
  • Eventually, our hero squares against an enemy with very similar powers, but an opposing ideology, bonus points if the villain is someone with a personal connection to the hero. (Darth Vader)
  • And in the second one, a figure from our hero's past who was thought to be gone forever will return with a vendetta against the hero and/or his dad. (Darth Vader in the Empire Strikes Back)

Hell, Kung-Fu Panda checks off most of those boxes.
 
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Thankfully some of the reviews compare it to Man of steel which i liked so hopefully i will like this one too. In all honesty i have enjoyed the DC superhero movies more than Marvels, not counting in the green lantern movie.
 
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Frozenprince

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TheFlow said:
This movie is going to be a box office success whether reviews are bad or good.
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Well it'll make money that's for sure.

Success is relative. Warner needs this to carry them, to be their flagship for the next 10+ years.

If it's just a pretty solid hit with bad word of mouth, then that's a problem.
 
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Magwik

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Frozenprince said:
Or, maybe, the movie tries to be funny at points and drops the ball stupidly hard, and, as has been pointed out in the actual reviews not just the blurbs posted, it can't nail down story direction, tonal consistency, art direction, or pacing.

But no it's not just like Iron Man that's obviously why people are bitching.
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Even from a pure objective stand point, half of that isn't even true. None of the humor (which there isn't much of) falls flat aside from maybe one joke? The tone and story are consistent, pacing in the first act is fairly horrid, and the film looked great almost all the time.
 
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inm8num2 said:
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Mr. Terrio is a former student of British literature and phenomenology who dropped out of a masters program at Cambridge University to study film. On his first big-budget movie, he cites as influences not just Frank Miller’s seminal comic-book miniseries “The Dark Knight Returns” (which features its own Batman-Superman battle) and Mr. Nolan’s trilogy of Batman films. He also invokes Italian semiotician Umberto Eco’s 1972 essay “The Myth of Superman” and the W.H. Auden poem “Musée des Beaux Arts,” which contrasts the quotidian details of normal people’s lives with the epic struggles of mythological figures.
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“Given the scale, you would think the whole thing has a corporate stench, but the way we worked there was this quality of, ‘I can’t believe they’re letting us do this,’” Mr. Terrio said.
“In superhero stories, Batman is Pluto, god of the underworld, and Superman is Apollo, god of the sky,” observed Mr. Terrio. “That began to be really interesting to me—that their conflict is not just due to manipulation, but their very existence.”
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Mr. Terrio recently finished his script for “Justice League,” which starts shooting next month, giving him a key role defining the big- screen versions of DC superheroes. To prepare, the writer says he studied red- and blueshifts in electromagnetic physics to think about the Flash, investigated deep sea biology in the Mariana trench to create the world of Aquaman, and read the Greek historian Diodorus of Sicily’s account of the war between Amazon and Atlantis to better understand Wonder Woman.
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“If you told me the most rigorous dramaturgical and intellectual product of my life would be superhero movies, I would have said you were crazy,” the screenwriter said.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-great-comic-book-movie-debate-1457637539?tesla=y
 
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bananafactory

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Frozenprince said:
Well it'll make money that's for sure.

Success is relative. Warner needs this to carry them, to be their flagship for the next 10+ years.

If it's just a pretty solid hit with bad word of mouth, then that's a problem.
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Yeah. I mean, the first on screen appearance of Batman and Superman together is a huge moment.

Whatever this makes I doubt most of the expanded universe films (Aquaman, Wonder Woman, etc) will even come close, so this needs to do extremely well to get people invested enough in the brand to offset that drop.
 
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Frozenprince

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StaticJam said:
Even from a pure objective stand point, half of that isn't even true. None of the humor (which there isn't much of) falls flat aside from maybe one joke? The tone and story are consistent, pacing in the first act is fairly horrid, and the film looked great almost all the time.
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Okay? Great. You have your opinion. Reviewers have theirs, nothing about what you just posted is objective.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Garlador said:
I could use a bit more color... The "original" version of Man of Steel broke my heart when I compared it to the "restored color" version.
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Pretty sure that's a bunk comparison. If I remember correctly the "restored color" version benefits from the "original color" version being darkened and desaturated before they applied their filters to "restore" it.
 
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