All are bad. They are way to cheesy for me.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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All are bad. They are way to cheesy for me.
Inferno313
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That's not what an auteur means. Auteur theory is that the director, rather than the screenwriter, is the true "author" of a film and that the decisions the director makes in regards to camera placement, blocking, lighting, editing, performance, etc has more to do with creating the meaning, message, and story of a film than what's on the page.
With this in mind, an auteur is a filmmaker who has an established style and creative vision that carries through their filmography. The idea is sort-of that you could sit down and watch Bridge of Spies without realizing that it's a Spielberg film, but feel that it's cut from the same cloth as the rest of his filmography.
Snyder is the epitome of an Auteur. That's not a qualitative statement though, it doesn't mean his work is made better by this.
Pai Pai Master
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I'm so damn conflicted about this movie now
I have a feeling the OT's going to be pretty mixed because expectations are so low right now. A lot of people will probably come out with a way more positive reaction just because they expected bad but got mediocre. Don't get me wrong, plenty of people will like this movie just fine and always would have. But I'm definitely interested to see what happens due to the bad reviews.
Yeah, I guess you are right when I look up the definition. I always assumed it's a director that has complete control of their vision, and that includes writing it. Perhaps I'm wrong on that.
And yet this movie still sucks.......*sigh*
Maybe they shouldn't have focused this much on Batman huh
Affeinvasion
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I really don't want these movies to fail, but I lost all faith in DC with the comics over the past 8 years or so and I can't stand Snyder. It's kind of unfair that I have to slog through his "vision" to get to see the DC characters that I love. I just started watching the flash on tv and despite some of the cringeworthy cw romance stuff, it's a great adaptation of the flash and other dc heroes. I thought they even pulled off firestorm which I didn't think anyone would even attempt. Clearly somebody knows what they're doing somewhere at dc. I just wish it extended to the movies.
888
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I only find 2 of the 4 cheesy. Flash and Arrow have some drama but they aren't the same cheese level as Legends for sure.
It just sounds like Snyder doesn't know how to do Superman. Seems like he likes the idea of Superman, but is more interested in -- or only capable of -- portraying Superman as a plot device than a character.
Very awful.
I had high expectation for MoS and left disappointed.
For BvS went to the theater with no expectation and still left dissapointed.
Good grief
Flash and Supergirl are great adaptation of their characters.
And it's not anymore cheesy than ASM2, TDKR or some of the Superman movies lol
The fuck you talking about m8? It's the Dawn of Justice that ruins the title. Batman vs Superman sounds like an event.
But the fun/cheese factor of The Flash seems like something the Snyderverse desperately needs
it really is a wonderful adaption of these classic characters
i think if you treat it like a silver age comic (Americana styled romance arcs included) it makes a lot more sense. it's great fun.
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Lord Virgin
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Poor Bats got dragged into this, no wonder he is pissed. Save us Nolan.
Seeing it tonight, still hyped as fuck.
FlashbladeGAF
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The fact that they didn't call it "World's Finest" (although somewhat understandable why they didn't) was my first red flag toward this movie.
Interfectum
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IMO they have the movie order backwards. A lot of reviewers are saying how this movie simply sets up for a Justice League movie. If anything we should have had a Justice League movie that sets up a showdown between Superman and Batman. This, IMO, is the main event. You really don't get much more mainstream than a battle royale between the two most popular comic book heroes of all time.
I don't even see what they could possibly do, marketing wise, to make Justice League near as compelling or provocative as the potential of Batman vs. Superman.
What are we going to get another end of the world/universe scenario where the heroes must combine their efforts to thwart a powerful foe? lol
I don't even see what they could possibly do, marketing wise, to make Justice League near as compelling or provocative as the potential of Batman vs. Superman.
What are we going to get another end of the world/universe scenario where the heroes must combine their efforts to thwart a powerful foe? lol
It has more to do with the work as a whole. Tarantino is definitely an auteur but so is Bay, Nolan, Fincher, Snyder, Wright. Wright's presence can be felt on the editing and music side while Bay and Snyder would be heavier on the visual effects and camerawork (not saying though that Wright is remotely subpar in that area either).
Affeinvasion
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I'd say they're less cheesy than any of those but I can see how the love quadrangle: "will they, won't they" stuff can turn people off.
shortsFortallPeople
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they also blew their Doomsday load early, too.
Just a bunch of fuckery happening with this film apparently
yet, i still cant wait to see it. I need to know if it's bad bad or if it's kinda fun bad.
BronsonLee
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Nice job, nerd!
That one trailer is going to haunt them.
EdibleKnife
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If they were smart, they'd do a gods vs mortal scenario for Justice League. A villain with an actual complex plot instead of just some powerhouse they stick in for a 30 minute fight scene
Affeinvasion
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I agree completely. Should have adapted the run where batman's contingency plans for all the members get used against them.
It's me. I'm that coworker. It's okay; I've made my peace, and I've already bought my tix
You have a good point. This exact scenario is playing out over at Marvel.
Netherscourge
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They should have done a Wonder Woman movie first, followed by a Ben Affleck solo Batman movie to reintroduce him.
Then you follow up with a new Superman movie that will connect the dots to the Justice League.
Batman vs. Superman is a dumb idea all around. There shouldn't be any hostility or tension between those two. It makes no sense and never has. It's nothing but Comic Book Porn and it doesn't help promote the DCU at all.
Then you follow up with a new Superman movie that will connect the dots to the Justice League.
Batman vs. Superman is a dumb idea all around. There shouldn't be any hostility or tension between those two. It makes no sense and never has. It's nothing but Comic Book Porn and it doesn't help promote the DCU at all.
Snyder has a thematic point of view that carries through his films? Not seeing it.
He has a sense for visuals and not much else. Kubrick was an auteur. His films, regardless of genre, all came back to the same theme: the nature of man. Snyder has no discernible commentary or point of view. The man is not an auetur.
Affeinvasion
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I hope you still have fun though. Nothing can beat my disappointment after camping out for star wars ep. 2 tickets.It's me. I'm that coworker. It's okay; I've made my peace, and I've already bought my tix
His thematic is AWESOME DUDE
The Flash is probably the best out the lot if I had to pick one. Every one likes a little cheese but I feel a lot of super hero TV shows try to cater for too many demographics.
The main reason I dislike Flash is I don't like the actor. Super Girl and TLOT are just poor. The Arrow started ok then went down hill.
Don't be "hopeman", that shit is an S on this planet.
Darkangel
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I know it's cool to rag on TDKR but come on...
Agreed. Say what you will about Marvel but they have built up Civil War over the years. There is a past where the setup of the movie has legit meaning. I don't understand why DC had to rush into Batman vs Superman. They could have set this up through the next couple of years in various movies.
……forgetit
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I doubt Nolan wanted it.
LegendofDragoonLives
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No it doesn't. Not every movie needs comedy. MoS's problems were not that it didn't have funny quips randomly added, just writing, cuts and some jarring decisions.
But the fun/cheese factor of The Flash seems like something the Snyderverse desperately needs
This. This movie has far more humor than MoS and still didn't cut it.
Because they are way to late to the game and needed to build that whole universe over one movie.
Dash_Riprock
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Weird that we don't have a consensus yet.
All the reviews have the exact same criticisms.
All the reviews have the exact same criticisms.
ebullientprism
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I think they fucked up by starting with their Avengers before they did their Iron Man and Captain America.
This should have been made around 2019 after a couple of Batfleck flicks, another Superman movie, a WW movie and a couple of other JL films.
This should have been made around 2019 after a couple of Batfleck flicks, another Superman movie, a WW movie and a couple of other JL films.
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