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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Straight Edge
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Many of the fresh reviews are lucky to be considered so based on the text.
tbh, "too serious" is a common, and invalid, criticism.
Yeah, so if they do dump Snyder or announce a co-direction, that's definitely not happening until after a couple of weeks. They certainly don't want to announce that there's a JL filming hiatus when this film stands to make the most amount of money. It might happen behind the scenes (which will probably leak out) though.
I can't believe after all this wait and anticipation that this was screwed up so badly. I've still got my IMAX 2D tickets for a Friday matinee and I'll keep them. My wife generally likes almost everything, and I doubt this will be any different. One of the tickets was free anyway so I'm only spending $16 on the movie.
I can't believe after all this wait and anticipation that this was screwed up so badly. I've still got my IMAX 2D tickets for a Friday matinee and I'll keep them. My wife generally likes almost everything, and I doubt this will be any different. One of the tickets was free anyway so I'm only spending $16 on the movie.
Maybe. When asked about it, Affleck raised an interesting point about it that I hadn't even thought of: WB already had a good relationship with Terrio that they would want to leverage with or without Affleck. The two wouldn't need to be a package deal for the studio to still think, hey, this guy wrote our best picture winner, let's put him on BvS.
Unfortunately for them, that's exactly when JL starts shooting!
I don't see them hitting the brakes on that movie. They've already sunk too much money into it, and it would probably disastrous -- both for PR and logistically -- to stop production so soon before filming. My guess is WB tightens the reins a lot more on JL if anything.
Snyder is consistently terrible
Serious is fine if you know how to tell a good story. Snyder doesn't.
Blaming Nolan now for Snyder's last two films being pieces of shit? Come on son.
Now that's a good criticism. If the story fails under its own weight and fails to communicate, that's another story. In fact I'm kinda sure that's what happened here, Zack jusg can't direct serious.
Hari Seldon
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Looking forward to the Half in the Bag review! I have no desire to see this shit blizzard.
darkistheway
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No he isn't. Not even close.
LegendofDragoonLives
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To the people that saw this movie. Would it have been better if this movie was two movies instead of one? I heard there is a 6 hour cut of the movie, and that it originally was supposed to be two movies. Tell me with no spoilers, since I have my ticket ready for Tuesday.
lol at someone blaming Nolan, one of the GOAT directors of our time for Snyder's fuckups. Pls stop.
lol at someone blaming Nolan, one of the GOAT directors of our time for Snyder's fuckups. Pls stop.
The Elite
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Well, we are always willing to applaud quality direction when a film meets or exceeds expectations. Why shouldn't we criticize a director who fails to meet a standard of quality?
Snyder has failed to deliver on a few occasions now, I think it's fair to at least associate some of the films problems with him. He is the director after all. He is primarily responsible for the film's direction. There are others to blame when a film fails, no doubt, but the person in the director's chair is going to be responsible for a great deal of what ends up on screen.
This. Also the thing that's intriguing about a movie with Batman and Superman is to see those two very different characters interact. In this cinematic universe it's just so damn boring because they are so damn similar. Both are brooding men with daddy issues, one just happens to be from a different planet.
Father_Brain
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RT is down... DDOSed by bitter DCCU fanboys?
It's surreal. Absolutely surreal. It's like someone handed you the perfect template, a universally beloved and universally acclaimed rendition of two of the most iconic heroes of all time, and all you have to do is just film it in live-action.
You have to try HARD to screw that up.
He's amazingly consistent.
Glass Shark
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Don't blame the director, blame whoever is in charge of driving the entire DCEU. The biggest problems with this film are due to them trying to cram too much in to kickstart their franchise.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
So, the people I disagree with 95% of the time deserve the benefit of the doubt this time?
Why's that then?
EdibleKnife
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I think it was touched on before but not only does Snyder have a rep for style over substance, he was also given alot of elements that should have resulted in something alot more competent (i.e. Oscar winning writer, an enormous budget, etc.). Yet somehow he still ended up making a serviceable to less than movie in the end. I too am more than happy to put blame on WB for their obvious desire to do JLA set up as quickly as possible. I like MoS as well, even knowing what issues people have with it. But this was a much higher Jenga tower to stack and it just sounds like Snyder's expertise for spectacle that overshadowed plot wasn't up to the challenge.
Well consistantly on the meager side of mediocre then.
We are not that capable.
So the director lol
Pop-O-Matic
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Honestly they should just skip it for HitB and give it the full Plinkett Review treatment instead.
darkistheway
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Please re-read what I wrote and try again.
I didn't blame Nolan. I blamed Warner for thinking Nolan's vision was appropriate for Superman.
And I don't think Man of Steel is a piece of shit. So I really couldnt be blaming Nolan for that, now could I?
Razgriz-Specter
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I just want a Superman like the Dean Cain version, the only live action version of Superman that I legitimately love.
How can You fuck up a movie that has Batman and Superman in it? what I feared from this movie based on the first trailer was that they wanted to do too much and cram too many elements in the movie.... It makes me sad things have turned out like this, I still going to go and see it, but man, 40% is brutal.
I mean for me personally, he's a terrible director. Can't think of one good movie he's directed outside of the just ok Dawn of the Dead remake.
Take Watchmen for example, I was watching it on a cross Atlantic flight, basically the best time to watch a movie as a time killer, and I had to turn it off about an hour in because of how bored out of my mind I was. I would rather sit there staring blankly at the clouds outside than to sit through that movie.
I don't think they care enough.
The Lamonster
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I really like Man of Steel; will I love BvS?
Supergirl is the Superman you're looking for.
probably
The trailer gave away the entire movie.
But a lot of cringe worthy scenes in the trailer or awful CGI turned out fine in the movie.
The movie is in no way worse than man of steel btw.
You are blaming the creative direction of the films on the groundwork laid by Nolan's Batman trilogy. This is a major Hollywood studio and Zack Snyder is a professional. They are responsible for their own blunders.
flintstryker
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This reminds me I really need to get my tickets
Rockandrollclown
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Super disappointing to see its getting such bad reviews. As someone who's not really a big fan of 90% of Marvel movies, I was really hoping for some solid competition. Oh well hopefully Suicide Squad is good.
bought my tickets for tomorrow evening
not super excited but at least i'll see some of my bros
everyone here should go watch Supergirl ASAP
and then watch The Flash
and then watch Monday's Supergirl X The Flash crossover
not super excited but at least i'll see some of my bros
everyone here should go watch Supergirl ASAP
and then watch The Flash
and then watch Monday's Supergirl X The Flash crossover
So...blame Snyder?
Snyder has a pretty recognizable and consistent style though most, if not all, of his films. He's way more than just a hired gun; his movies are definitely, through and through, very clear Zack Snyder films.
The stuff about Batman, like WTF? How do you fuck that up?
Totally uninterested in any Batman solo film until there's a reboot now. Shame, since it sounds like Affleck is really good.
Wow hearing this makes me think there are some serious shills lurking because initial impressions in here said the trailers were the tip of the iceberg
But the director, who is also the producer, is the one in charge of driving the entire DCCU. Lol.
darkistheway
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To be honest, I think praising the director exclusively for the success of these films is also an incorrect viewpoint. These films are made in committee.
Even if I agreed that his films have been consistently mediocre (and I don't), the problem of being a tent pole director in Hollywood still remains. Fee of these films actually end up being really good. Not entirely the directors fault everytime.
I agree in principle. Haven't seen BvS yet but the previews make it look rushed and messy. Fucking Doomsday says it all. Stupid decision. Again, made in commitee.
BronsonLee
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I don't think they're the tip of the iceberg, but they're misleading as all hell. Clips are out of sequence and they leave out quite a bit of the big action stuff, thankfully
Subpar Spatula
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Don't believe their lies, people.
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