Dash_Riprock
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Hey at least you didn't buy this like some people did:
http://comicbook.com/2016/02/25/exclusive-regal-theaters-announces-batman-v-superman-ultimate-ti/
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Hey at least you didn't buy this like some people did:
http://comicbook.com/2016/02/25/exclusive-regal-theaters-announces-batman-v-superman-ultimate-ti/
flaxknuckles
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Get Fandango credit refund and you don't have to pay a convenience fee.
You do know that Banner was starting to learn how to control it at the end of Incredible Hulk, right?
Bloody_Five
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Honestly, it is a discovery for me to see that people obsess over RT scores.
It is ultimately a meaningless number as much as most critics opinion.
You can enjoy a bad movie.
You can dislike a masterpiece.
From the outside, it looks like you are turning to RT for some sort of validation.
It is ultimately a meaningless number as much as most critics opinion.
You can enjoy a bad movie.
You can dislike a masterpiece.
From the outside, it looks like you are turning to RT for some sort of validation.
Trojita
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I love how a movie about Ant-Man was reviewed by critics and received by audiences better than the first live action movie featuring Batman and Superman.
"Flavor of the month" Ant-Man.
Bucky Barnes actor's comments on Zack Snyder are still hilarious.
Sebastian Stan: "I would say were still making something very original in our own way. I mean, the Russos are coming in and taking something people are used to and theyre shaping it up and changing it in a very different way. Theyre not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that."
"Flavor of the month" Ant-Man.
Bucky Barnes actor's comments on Zack Snyder are still hilarious.
Sebastian Stan: "I would say were still making something very original in our own way. I mean, the Russos are coming in and taking something people are used to and theyre shaping it up and changing it in a very different way. Theyre not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that."
AoU is the superior movie
Yep, to an extent, I mean Terminator 3 and Spider Man 3 are fresh and people hate those movies a lot.
I tend to judge movies based on my own viewings as I liked rotten movies and disliked fresh ones as well.
LegendofDragoonLives
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That's a bit confusing since it's a different actor. Didn't know they were still from the same world. Didn't he go completely insane because the ship turned into a wreck? Then hitting the Hulk?Sephzilla said:
I had a fun time watching both movies. Esp if you watch it in theaters since it has some shine. But when people talk about the best superhero movies list, my reaction is always
hydragonwarrior
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Will robots and/or zombies do?
And it was Loki's sceptre that induced the Hulk episode.
Anton Sugar
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Wonderful post.
The praise for its "faithfulness" to the graphic novel are just compliments to its skin-deep superficiality, not faithfulness to what made it special.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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It's weird, I think watchmen (the movie) is great, I like sucker punch a whole lot, but I hate man of steel, I think its so bad. But I don't know why, it just turns me off so much.
Gordon Shumway
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Would have been awesome if she made the sound after she says chosen one..
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nIyHJFiBUkk
rekt
The major problem with "just firing Snyder" is that he's not just a director-for-hire, he's the chief visionary behind the DCEU. He was the one who tweeted out that first shot of Aquaman, for instance.
In fact it's worse than I thought, filming on Justice League Part 1 starts in two weeks!
In fact it's worse than I thought, filming on Justice League Part 1 starts in two weeks!
The only thing that felt like the comics...properly
was rorschach telling mr manhattan to kill him
It would be if all the piss filtered action wasn't so poorly edited.
Give George Miller a lot of money, Warner Bros. He'll fix this. It might take 19 years, but he'll fix it.
Avengers is a structurally tight blockbuster, that knows when to have fun and when to get (relatively) serious, and balances the two tones exceptionally well. Great cast dynamic where everyone plays off each other pretty perfectly (doubly impressive considering they were all hired in separate movies apart from each other). The plot is simple but perfectly functional in executing what the movie is actually about and needs to do: blending these six or seven completely different personalities together, and wringing as much chemistry and entertainment out of it as possible.
The movie could have easily been a disaster but ends up working so well that it almost looks effortless. Yeah yeah, flat lighting, Cap's costume, Hawkeye is a zombie for most of the movie, blah blah. The strengths outweigh the weaknesses and the whole thing is greater than the sum of its parts.
The movie could have easily been a disaster but ends up working so well that it almost looks effortless. Yeah yeah, flat lighting, Cap's costume, Hawkeye is a zombie for most of the movie, blah blah. The strengths outweigh the weaknesses and the whole thing is greater than the sum of its parts.
"I'm coming!"
PhantomZone
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It's a great film, actually watched it again recently in the lead up to Batman vs Superman's Australian release. I remember one of the criticisms it had was that there was not enough "Batman", it didn't need him.
Still think TDK is the best in the Nolan trilogy. Everything was perfect EVERYTHING.
People should have seen this reaction to Batman vs Superman coming. Man of Steel was not very good (weak script, editing, acting and so forth) - having the same creative team that were involved in that one, now making Batman vs Superman you're not going to improve or evolve too much.
The writing was on the wall when Affleck brought in his guy to re-write parts of the script, but even that would not patch up every problem. A lot of BvS's issues have to do with other elements like pacing of the film (needing to re-work scenes.... not just change dialog!) and the way the film is edited - one big hot gigantic mess.
Now that what happened to Superman in Man of Steel is happening to Batman in Batman vs Superman a lot more people are taking note "you can't have Baman associated with this drivel".is one popular consensus I have read.
The DC characters do deserve to be treated better, as do the audience -yes they are targeting general fans more than true comic book fans. But Snyder and co need to learn that you can't take liberties.... you can't put your own spin on a character that completely changes what they are about, what they stand for. And not expect backlash for doing so.
It's a sad time this is happening they've rushed things in order to compete with Marvel, they should have just worked from the ground up and taken their time. Instead they have closed their eyes and pressed every single button on the control panel hoping that the end result is a winner.
I will never understand why people listen to kevin smith or like his movies...its the worst of everything
And also this
http://viewaskew.com/press/menace.html
Inferno313
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Well, you can't kill either of those things. One isn't alive, the other is already dead.
So not sure what you're getting at.
Gordon Shumway
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LegendofDragoonLives
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A brainless action blockbuster with superheroes in there. They happen every year, just without superheroes. There's absolutely nothing special in it other than heroes get together for the first time which is cool to see.
I love Cap in the Avengers. When it comes to comicbooks Superman have always been my favorite superhero. The Avengers is the movie i realized Cap is a better Superman than anything i'll ever get out of DC movies. And that costume is aces, he's blue and proud of it! Dislike the muted colors in the movies after it.
BeatnikGunsoo
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Well I can count for snyder for action scenes, honestly that's all I want
NOLA_Gaffer
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Do you have to provide ID when using it? If not, passing it around to your friends so they can see the film makes it a pretty decent deal.
He should never criticize someone else's movie. So probably nothing.
Inferno313
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Buba Big Guns
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WB can't even make a good batman v superman movie, meanwhile Marvel pumping out gold with c-tier heroes like antman and guardians.
KOMANI
KOMANI
I would. No amount of damage that these movies do can undo the decades of great stories from DC.., or the actual good movies in that regard. My Number superhero movie will always be Donner's Superman I.I wonder if they name this movie, Disasters of the DC Cinematic Universe... would you also get chuckle when you say it out loud?
You know your stuff.
Now someone queue a gif of Snyder getting his head slammed repeatedly against the conference desk by a WB exec
Alandrus Sun
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*sigh*
No one is saying you can't do either of those things but to pretend a score is meaningless is nonsense. All opinions regarding things such as the quality of a piece of entertainment is subjective, while there are a limited number of objective standards you can judge a movie an overall opinion of a movie will always be completely subjective. That said, this does not mean that a consensus cannot be held as towards the general perception of a movie or that such a consensus hold no water. Society is built upon consensus, what we collectively agree to accept or reject is the building blocks of our civilization.
Following this within the realm of cinema there has grown a large body of individuals that grew up with and our able to understand the language of cinema above which your average person is able to appreciate. These individuals are soon accepted as critics whose opinion generally tend to hold more weight than your average individual since they are attuned to the astute task of analyzing the qualities of a film. As a result, a film is generally considered "good" when consensus is achieved amongst film critics that said movie is in fact "good." While a general movie-goer can disagree with this consensus their individual holds less weight than the general consensus of experts.
Accordingly, while you may think Pluto Nash is one of the greatest movies ever the critical and general consensus is that it is a terrible movie. And, while you (or maybe I) may think that 2001: A Space Odyssey is boring pretentious trite that does not diminish the fact that it is regarded as one of the greatest films ever made.
I don't see how that's a positive thing.
AlfredX1990
Banned
The movie needed a gigantic mechanical spider, that would've saved everything
shortsFortallPeople
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If these films are bad then it's not good for them to make money. That sends the wrong message.
just look at how the public not caring enough about the last spiderman film turned out, for example. Money talks.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Still going strong.
Is this thread a Mary Sue?
Is this thread a Mary Sue?
Batman. The character that once made the Academy to expand the number of Oscars nominations to avoid the risk of ignoring it again, reduced to a Transformers wish. Kill me now.
Agreed. It might be an empty brainless childish affair, but boring or sloppy it was not. Credit where credit is due.
Why even quote me if you're just going to gloss over everything I wrote?
Blockbusters like the first Avengers are pretty rare, despite what the "AVENGERS IS SHIT" contingent on GAF would like to believe. Few are as well put together or genuinely exciting to watch, with casts that work as well as that one. Most are pretty sloppy, boring affairs with dull actors and duller action. Whether that says more about Avengers' strengths or how few actually good blockbusters we get every year is another matter though...
blummer102
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Just came back from seeing this and now I understand why the reviews are lower than Man of Steel, which is actually a more coherent movie. That might be hard to believe, but hooooooo boy is this movie a mess! But it's a lovable mess that tries REALLY hard (bless you, Based God Snyder) and personally I think every GAFer should see it, if only 'cause some segments are straight up from the Arkham games. Also, it is going to fuel message board arguments for the next decade, no doubt about it.
I will post more spoiler filled impressions in the spoiler thread, but here's some quick thoughts...
THE DOPE
- BATFLECK THE GOD. Srs, Batman had to dive bomb into this movie to save the day and Ben put in work. He does a shitload of un-Batman like things that were riffed from The Dark Knight Returns, which I feel like Synder and Terrio both obviously loved but probably didn't understand very well...BUT I WAS WILLING TO FORGIVE ALL BECAUSE HIS PERFORMANCE SAVED THIS DAMN MOVIE. Also him and Jeremy Irons spit some witty fire at each other.
- Wonder Woman rocks. I know where those early tweets saying she got standing ovations came from. Also she has the best music.
- Doomsday final boss fight is pretty good tbh
THE NOT AS DOPE
- Superman gets the shaft hard in this movie and Cavill cannot compete against the acting chomps of Batfleck the God. This movie will not help those "moping, sad Superman" arguments at all.
- The reasoning for Bats to fight Supes is pretty damn weak
- The script. Whoever came up with that pic of Terrio standing with FALSE GOD on his chest is on the nose; because the script, no matter what you heard, AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's filled with quasi-intellectual metaphors and mythology illusions, and the characters literally talk about the nature of life like they're in a mid 90's Japanese RPG at times. (GAF might see this as a positive actually; some of the lines are so bad they are funny)
THE WTF
- Really was not feeling Lex Luthor. Soon as he came on screen, I wanted to punch him and that feeling lasted till the end.
- The poorly structured nature of the movie's first hour - this is where all those rotten tomatoes are coming from because there are just too many random story moments pieced together incoherently for the film to be considered a "good" one, at least in its beginning half. Those critics sadly are not working under a Marvel conspiracy - they're just calling bullshit when they see it, and this first act got cut to hell and back. The extended Blu-ray might fix things up a bit, but ya, bullshit.
To sum things up, it's kind of a magnificent trainwreck with some epic fanservice moments which make it entertaining and worth watching at least once. It's kinda like the comic book movie version of Advent Children.
I will post more spoiler filled impressions in the spoiler thread, but here's some quick thoughts...
THE DOPE
- BATFLECK THE GOD. Srs, Batman had to dive bomb into this movie to save the day and Ben put in work. He does a shitload of un-Batman like things that were riffed from The Dark Knight Returns, which I feel like Synder and Terrio both obviously loved but probably didn't understand very well...BUT I WAS WILLING TO FORGIVE ALL BECAUSE HIS PERFORMANCE SAVED THIS DAMN MOVIE. Also him and Jeremy Irons spit some witty fire at each other.
- Wonder Woman rocks. I know where those early tweets saying she got standing ovations came from. Also she has the best music.
- Doomsday final boss fight is pretty good tbh
THE NOT AS DOPE
- Superman gets the shaft hard in this movie and Cavill cannot compete against the acting chomps of Batfleck the God. This movie will not help those "moping, sad Superman" arguments at all.
- The reasoning for Bats to fight Supes is pretty damn weak
- The script. Whoever came up with that pic of Terrio standing with FALSE GOD on his chest is on the nose; because the script, no matter what you heard, AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's filled with quasi-intellectual metaphors and mythology illusions, and the characters literally talk about the nature of life like they're in a mid 90's Japanese RPG at times. (GAF might see this as a positive actually; some of the lines are so bad they are funny)
THE WTF
- Really was not feeling Lex Luthor. Soon as he came on screen, I wanted to punch him and that feeling lasted till the end.
- The poorly structured nature of the movie's first hour - this is where all those rotten tomatoes are coming from because there are just too many random story moments pieced together incoherently for the film to be considered a "good" one, at least in its beginning half. Those critics sadly are not working under a Marvel conspiracy - they're just calling bullshit when they see it, and this first act got cut to hell and back. The extended Blu-ray might fix things up a bit, but ya, bullshit.
To sum things up, it's kind of a magnificent trainwreck with some epic fanservice moments which make it entertaining and worth watching at least once. It's kinda like the comic book movie version of Advent Children.
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You gotta pay attention to more than just the explosions and punches, man. And stop talking about 2012 like it was 30 years ago.
hendersonhank
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I doubt Alan Moore would agree that the "entire point" of Watchmen is the specific nature of the fake threat that the villain creates.
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