Yautja_Warrior
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Forget Sony buying DC, Marvel should buy DC at least we would get some great DC movies then.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Forget Sony buying DC, Marvel should buy DC at least we would get some great DC movies then.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
they do but some people are okay with it i guess
Ha, ha, wow, just as I said if it could get lower...
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Watchmen is really quite amazing. I've never seen an adaptation faithfully recreate so many scenes and still completely miss the point
ScreenSplitter
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The movie is barely out and some people are using "User Ratings" to point out a "disconnect" in here... I mean, yeah, there's a disconnect alright.
BvS has almost as many user reviews as Deadpool over at RT. But I'm confident that's just people who immediately went online on their phones to post a review after leaving the theater because they just couldn't contain their excitement. I guess praying circles work.
Between 40 and 50 would be my guess.
BvS has almost as many user reviews as Deadpool over at RT. But I'm confident that's just people who immediately went online on their phones to post a review after leaving the theater because they just couldn't contain their excitement. I guess praying circles work.
Between 40 and 50 would be my guess.
BlackGoku03
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It's back up at 41. Doesn't seem to want to break it though.
BattleMonkey
Member
Its the same ending
I really hope this gets him worked up enough to go on one of those Kermodean rants, those are quite entertaining. I do fear that he's not into comic books to care enough tough.
WrenchNinja
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Manhattan is an american. This is the height of the cold war. No one's going to give a shit that he nuked a couple of American cities along with the rest of the world. The blame will solely be with the U.S. for even harboring this monster to begin with.
Don't get me wrong, Thor 2 is a bad movie. I did find parts of it (Loki) entertaining though, which is more than I can say for TDKR.
roflwaffles
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TDKR is great on first viewing, Nolan knows how to suck you into his world and characters.
It's only on a further viewing that you realize a bunch of it doesn't make sense logically.
The Bruce quitting and fighting scenes are legit bad though.
It's only on a further viewing that you realize a bunch of it doesn't make sense logically.
The Bruce quitting and fighting scenes are legit bad though.
My wife and I and some friends were able to see the premier of the film in New Zealand last night, before the film it had Zack Snyder saying please be nice and don't spoil the film for anyone which was kinda neat.
We all enjoyed the film, that's 6 people with very different tastes in movies. One of the people HATES MoS but really dug this.
So yeah, 6 out of 6 for our group. Our audience clapped and cheered a bit at the end in appreciation of it which is very very rare in New Zealand.
We all agreed that some things didn't feel quite right, but heaps of other things were solid. My brother was over the moon with it and loved this version of Batman.
Anyway, I liked the film quite a bit, i'm a little shocked by the terrible reviews.
We all enjoyed the film, that's 6 people with very different tastes in movies. One of the people HATES MoS but really dug this.
So yeah, 6 out of 6 for our group. Our audience clapped and cheered a bit at the end in appreciation of it which is very very rare in New Zealand.
We all agreed that some things didn't feel quite right, but heaps of other things were solid. My brother was over the moon with it and loved this version of Batman.
Anyway, I liked the film quite a bit, i'm a little shocked by the terrible reviews.
PhantomZone
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The Dark Knight Rises was a genius send off and book end of the Nolan Batman trilogy, I enjoy it today as much as I enjoyed it at the cinema on release. Back in that same year I rated it leaps and bounds ahead of other movies that came out the very same year (especially The Avengers - too hammy and too reliant on cheap cgi, it also looked like it was shot as a tv episode - not a movie).
I loved it but I had also never read the comics and I was 19. I bought the ultimate cut (or whatever it's called) with the Curse of the Black Freighter but I have yet to watch it. I might watch it today to see if I still like it as much as I did when it first came out.
TDKR was disappointing for me in all viewings.
The only way it works is based on nostalgia for films that were barely a half-decade old. It is a poor attempt at telling a Batman story when taken on its own merits. It also has too high a percentage of boring.
It kind of feel like Chris Nolan movies in general have a slight problem where you realize shit doesn't make really make sense logically upon revisits. Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Rises, and Inception all pop up in my head when thinking about this.
Liquidsnake
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I like it more that TDK.
The most heinous crime was Bruce following Catwoman like a lost puppy. Made no sense to his character.
TDK is exactly the same. Rises has worse problems though.
Yep. Well Begins, less so than the others.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
the entire point of the alien tentacle monster is to present a neutral, completely free of ideological ties threat that would cause all of the world's nations to drop their petty differences and unite to confront a possible threat to all.
So yeah, the ending was a complete misfire and misses the entire point.
That movie disappointed me so much that I started taking notes on my phone so that I could let everyone know how much I disliked it.
sobaka770
Banned
I can explain, if you like?
Please, do. From my point of view the movie has a very good story and visuals, but it's tiring, just as any Snyder movie. I'd like to hear what's the hatred about though.
Anton Sugar
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My issue with Watchmen isn't necessarily with the ending (though I like the graphic novel's better) but the visual design and action choreography.
Everyone praises the visuals and how "faithful" it is, but its gaudy bombast is completely against the style and intent of the source. It should have been a workman-like visual style, as opposed to showing off every chance it got. Something deeply moody but restrained. Gordon Willis comes to mind.
I'm not saying it's not a beautifully shot movie--it absolutely is--but it doesn't fit.
Snyder applying his trademark style to the action scenes doesn't work for me, at all. There should have been some traumatic Gaspar Noe or Nicholas Winding Refn-style fights that make you go "oh god, I guess I'm rooting for this guy, but that was fucking brutal and scary" (just like actual violence is) and not "oh god, that was so cool when the slow-mo was like whoooooa and then she did the superhero three point stance and then he punched the guy down midair!!!".
All IMO, of course. Given that the tone and universe of Watchmen is such a huge part of its identify, Snyder misfiring on these two aspects really brought it down for me.
Everyone praises the visuals and how "faithful" it is, but its gaudy bombast is completely against the style and intent of the source. It should have been a workman-like visual style, as opposed to showing off every chance it got. Something deeply moody but restrained. Gordon Willis comes to mind.
I'm not saying it's not a beautifully shot movie--it absolutely is--but it doesn't fit.
Snyder applying his trademark style to the action scenes doesn't work for me, at all. There should have been some traumatic Gaspar Noe or Nicholas Winding Refn-style fights that make you go "oh god, I guess I'm rooting for this guy, but that was fucking brutal and scary" (just like actual violence is) and not "oh god, that was so cool when the slow-mo was like whoooooa and then she did the superhero three point stance and then he punched the guy down midair!!!".
All IMO, of course. Given that the tone and universe of Watchmen is such a huge part of its identify, Snyder misfiring on these two aspects really brought it down for me.
Yeah the issues with Begins are more on the nitpicky side, at least for me (which is why I think Begins is the best of the Nolan Bat-Trilogy). Like, logically, Crane's toxin being in the water supply would have been noticed well ahead of time because people would have started freaking the fuck out when they took a hot shower or tried to make spaghetti.
WaterAstro
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That was the best take? THAT one?
AlfredX1990
Banned
It's going down again, IT'S GOING DOWN AGAIN
Man, I really hope Snyder is fired and that Warner decides to revise the DCEU, as a mostly Marvel fan I want a strong DCEU, Marvel needs the competition so they keep trying to be the best ones, but so far Marvel is winning without doing anything
Man, I really hope Snyder is fired and that Warner decides to revise the DCEU, as a mostly Marvel fan I want a strong DCEU, Marvel needs the competition so they keep trying to be the best ones, but so far Marvel is winning without doing anything
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
The next time you watch Batman Begins, take a drink every time a line of dialogue is repeated.
Don't actually do this
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
I, what?
echoshifting
Banned
And back down it goes
roflwaffles
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To each his own, personally I was invested and sucked in to the point where I did not notice many of the apparent flaws on first viewing. I also thought the ending was amazing post-bomb explosion, if a bit obviously foreshadowed.
The Thor movies, Iron Man sequels, AoU, and Antman have never been able to elicit the same kind of emotions for me.
People don't talk about Fox enough though. DOFP is better than the vast majority of MCU movies and everything released by DC post-Dark Knight.
ViewtifulJC
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A lot of stuff that made Watchmen remarkable are strictly limited to its comic book medium. The techniques it used, the craft of it all, the way words juxtaposed against panels, the usage of synchronicity and symbolism and motifs, or how an issue visually constructed the same way front to back like a Rorschach, or just the fact that it came out in a medium dominated by superheroes who didn't typically deal with things like this or sound like this, or the supplemental prose back-ups. You take all that away, what do you have? Just a gritty superhero murder mystery, 25 years removed from its peak impact and influence. You don't really have Watchmen anymore.
I don't care at all about the DCEU so I kinda want him to stay on and make the Justice League movies just to see how much worse it can get.
Piku_Ringo
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I wonder if they name this movie, Disasters of the DC Cinematic Universe... would you also get chuckle when you say it out loud?
You know your stuff.
Now someone queue a gif of Snyder getting his head slammed repeatedly against the conference desk by a WB exec
stump sock
Member
I tried to make this point on several occasions and nearly had an aneurysm as a result
it's not like the comic doesn't make that point very clear and obvious through expositionary dialogue
shira
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LegendofDragoonLives
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How the fuck is the Avengers rated as some top tier in terms of great movie, even for Marvel movies? The only good thing is that it has superheros as a team getting together.
- The villains overall are garbage. 1,000s of generic looking characters that all get beat and we know nothing from their feats. Big snake thing that comes out and gets destroyed by the hulk. All of them being led by the guy that got his ass smashed by Thor. But now we are supposed to take him seriously as Thor whose noticeably stronger teams up with Ironman, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Fury, the Hulk, & Captain America.
- Which leads to having literally no tension at all during the movie. Execpt for that overly scripted death scene that later on doesn't even turn into a death scene. Apparently this is also a guy everyone here is supposed to care, how many of them know him exceptionally well?
- The plot.. fuck lets just move on.
- Captain America's writing & costume.
- Needed a laugh track to equal to Big Bang Theory type of comedy. I actually dug some of the comedy but was too overdone.
- Deus Ex Machina Hulk being able to control and not control his powers depending on what the movie needs.
- Bomb explosion makes generic 1,000s of copy & paste bad guys disappear because why not.
FUN theater experience. Had a blast. Generally on second watches, the quality is very little over, under or the same. Only movie I had a totally different outlook on the second viewing and promised to not watch again so I wouldn't rate it any lower. No idea what appeal this movie has over CBM other than superheroes getting together, plenty of Marvel movies are better written and directed let alone overall. Even with those flaws, it's a fun movie and should be enjoyed. If Avengers came out today, I guarantee you it would be nowhere near as well received as it originally was.
I still don't know why one of Thanos' people didn't fall from sky.
- The villains overall are garbage. 1,000s of generic looking characters that all get beat and we know nothing from their feats. Big snake thing that comes out and gets destroyed by the hulk. All of them being led by the guy that got his ass smashed by Thor. But now we are supposed to take him seriously as Thor whose noticeably stronger teams up with Ironman, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Fury, the Hulk, & Captain America.
- Which leads to having literally no tension at all during the movie. Execpt for that overly scripted death scene that later on doesn't even turn into a death scene. Apparently this is also a guy everyone here is supposed to care, how many of them know him exceptionally well?
- The plot.. fuck lets just move on.
- Captain America's writing & costume.
- Needed a laugh track to equal to Big Bang Theory type of comedy. I actually dug some of the comedy but was too overdone.
- Deus Ex Machina Hulk being able to control and not control his powers depending on what the movie needs.
- Bomb explosion makes generic 1,000s of copy & paste bad guys disappear because why not.
FUN theater experience. Had a blast. Generally on second watches, the quality is very little over, under or the same. Only movie I had a totally different outlook on the second viewing and promised to not watch again so I wouldn't rate it any lower. No idea what appeal this movie has over CBM other than superheroes getting together, plenty of Marvel movies are better written and directed let alone overall. Even with those flaws, it's a fun movie and should be enjoyed. If Avengers came out today, I guarantee you it would be nowhere near as well received as it originally was.
I still don't know why one of Thanos' people didn't fall from sky.
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