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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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Screaming Meat said:
You, sir, are talking bollocks.

Your Joker looks like Bruce Dern and It. Is. Awesome. As is Harley :) I really like your work! You doing any regular comic work?



God yeah. It was great to see the 'home' team do so well. Most of them cut their teeth on 2000AD, which used to be an absolute hotbed of talent and weirdness (your stuff would not be out of place there).
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You're a sweet guy Meat. I'm putting together a portfolio as we speak, but as a penciller, I'm not confident in my inking yet.
Yea dude, ironically enough, Miller's DKR opened the gateway to that era of comics. I think the only guy I'm not in love with is Mark Millar. His best work is Red Son, and that was ghost writen with a Grant (that ending is sooo Morrison).
 
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Jack Remington said:
So the audience score on RT is 86%. Seems like these are real reviews too, or at least most of them are.

Another case of critic vs audience disconnect?
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The only people who could really review it other than those who do it as their jobs are movie-goers who are seeing it the moment it releases, probably fans, so there could be some skewing going on.
 
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Curufinwe

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I'm surprised it's come in this low. I have never liked the direction it was going in, but I didn't expect the critics to agree with me.
 
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Shaanyboi

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Inferno313 said:
Source: http://io9.gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-of-zack-snyder-defending-the-end-of-man-1763888746
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I stand by that the criticisms about Supes killing Zod (which I didn't have an issue with) and the massive urban destruction (which I do) could've been heavily minimized with an extra four or five minutes after Supes' big scream. Giving the character a moment to see the city in ruins, taking responsibility on his shoulders and trying to help everyone he can, helping rescue efforts, and then cutting to him talking to his mom about how wrong it felt to take a life, vowing to never let himself lose control again.

You can accomplish that in five fucking minutes. Maybe less! I was bored over my break and literally storyboarded that sequence for myself, just to see how it would play.
 
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Alandrus Sun

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Damn, the fact that Jeremy Jahns disliked the movie means that there is no hope. I love that dude and he can usually find almost anything positive or redeeming to say about a film, the fact that even he consider BvS a mess best enjoyed while drunk is telling. Hot damn, this trainwreck will be a wonder to witness.

I also love these new people coming in the thread telling us not to blame Snyder but the "big wigs" responsible for the new DCU, you know not understand that those "big wigs" is basically just Snyder. The dude literally thought of "Batman v. Superman" and WB said great and proceeded to announce it a week later at Comic-Con! Who the fuck has ever had so much power or control over a film franchise!?
 
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CosmicGroinPull said:
I'm game to watch someone bash the movie, but holy shit that was unpleasant to watch. Did he have to read so fast and then artificially speed it up some more? I had to stop halfway.
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It's his thing, it's what he built his audience with. If it's not your style, that's fine and I don't blame you, but I've always liked his takes and he's not always this riled up, he saves it for the ones that really get to him (see his 'Pixels' and 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' reviews.

If you want to listen to him more subdued and/or positive, check out his 'Really That Good' series.

Edit: Alternatively, if you'd rather just read his review, you can go here: http://moviebob.blogspot.ca/2016/03/review-batman-v-superman-dawn-of.html?spref=tw&m=1
 
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Christ, I saw MovieBob's review and he was completely furious over this thing (with good reason, granted, he even dissected a summary of the plot and it sounded completely stupid), but I didn't think this movie would do so badly with other critics as well. 40-50% aggregate score is not as bad as some other bombs, but it's still kind of a disaster.

Honestly, it's probably a good sign that WB needs to abort this thing like they did with Green Lantern. This probably isn't the sort of direction a DCMU should be going in. Or at least they should just jettison Synder. It's clear the guy has no idea what he's doing.
 
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Alienous

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Shaanyboi said:
I stand by that the criticisms about Supes killing Zod (which I didn't have an issue with) and the massive urban destruction (which I do) could've been heavily minimized with an extra four or five minutes after Supes' big scream. Giving the character a moment to see the city in ruins, taking responsibility on his shoulders and trying to help everyone he can, helping rescue efforts, and then cutting to him talking to his mom about how wrong it felt to take a life, vowing to never let himself lose control again.

You can accomplish that in five fucking minutes. Maybe less! I was bored over my break and literally storyboarded that sequence for myself, just to see how it would play.
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But he's kinda hot welcome to the planet hanz zimmer music.
 
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Candescence said:
Honestly, it's probably a good sign that WB needs to abort this thing like they did with Green Lantern. This probably isn't the sort of direction a DCMU should be going in. Or at least they should just jettison Synder. It's clear the guy has no idea what he's doing.
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There's zero way that's happening. They're way further into this than they were at the time of Green Lantern. They already have characters, actors, directors, multiple movies filming, etc. They will not give it up. At most, they may reconsider Snyder's role in this.
 
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Silexx said:
It's his thing, it's what he built his audience with. If it's not your style, that's fine and I don't blame you, but I've always liked his takes and he's not always this riled up, he saves it for the ones that really get to him (see his 'Pixels' and 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' reviews.

If you want to listen to him more subdued and/or positive, check out his 'Really That Good' series.

Edit: Alternatively, if you'd rather just read his review, you can go here: http://moviebob.blogspot.ca/2016/03/review-batman-v-superman-dawn-of.html?spref=tw&m=1
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LOL, MovieBob is a joke especially for anything doing with comics. This is a dude that vehemently hates TDKR for some weird reason but believes Thor is one of those amazing movies. I always expected to get a laugh from whatever his opinion on the movie was.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
LOL, MovieBob is a joke especially for anything doing with comics. This is a dude that vehemently hates TDKR for some weird reason but believes Thor is one of those amazing movies. I always expected to get a laugh from whatever his opinion on the movie was.
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I've only read this review and he definitely seems to enjoy hyperbole, but just reading the synopsis (yeah I spoiled myself, but oh well) and this movie sounds like a hilarious mess.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
LOL, MovieBob is a joke especially for anything doing with comics. This is a dude that vehemently hates TDKR for some weird reason but believes Thor is one of those amazing movies. I always expected to get a laugh from whatever his opinion on the movie was.
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I seem to remember him calling TDKR a "good, just not great" film in his review of it, so not sure where you're getting that from.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
Damn, the fact that Jeremy Jahns disliked the movie means that there is no hope. I love that dude and he can usually find almost anything positive or redeeming to say about a film, the fact that even he consider BvS a mess best enjoyed while drunk is telling. Hot damn, this trainwreck will be a wonder to witness.

I also love these new people coming in the thread telling us not to blame Snyder but the "big wigs" responsible for the new DCU, you know not understand that those "big wigs" is basically just Snyder. The dude literally thought of "Batman v. Superman" and WB said great and proceeded to announce it a week later at Comic-Con! Who the fuck has ever had so much power or control over a film franchise!?
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The fact that Chris and Jahns didn't love this means I will disappointed. They usually have similar tastes than me, other than overrating the shit out of almost every CBM.
 
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M.Prashanth said:
To kill zod
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GAMEPROFF said:
Just 30 minutes to go.

So excited :D
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D:
 
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Veelk

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tomtom94 said:
I seem to remember him calling TDKR a "good, just not great" film in his review of it, so not sure where you're getting that from.
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He has a tendency to make fun of the film's villains as if they're especially bad for some reason since the review. Either his opinion changed, or he just likes taking potshots at the movie.
 
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Alandrus Sun

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tomtom94 said:
I seem to remember him calling TDKR a "good, just not great" film in his review of it, so not sure where you're getting that from.
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Watch his review again of TDKR, he goes all in. But additionally, he takes pot shots at TDKR every chance he can get cramming his negative opinion of the movie in every review he can. I think he even recently managed a way to cram his negative opinion of TDKR into his review of Daredevil S2. He just cannot seem to let his hate for the film go.
 
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Candescence

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Alandrus Sun said:
LOL, MovieBob is a joke especially for anything doing with comics. This is a dude that vehemently hates TDKR for some weird reason but believes Thor is one of those amazing movies. I always expected to get a laugh from whatever his opinion on the movie was.
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Um... He doesn't hate TDKR, nor does he absolutely adore either of the Thor movies. He just considers TDKR a decent flick but still a rather large disappointment compared to TDK (to be fair, TDK raised the bar really high), and he doesn't even rate either of the Thor movies very highly amongst the rest of the MCU.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
Watch his review again of TDKR, he goes all in. But additionally, he takes pot shots at TDKR every chance he can get cramming his negative opinion of the movie in every review he can. I think he even recently managed a way to cram his negative opinion of TDKR into his review of Daredevil S2. He just cannot seem to let his hate for the film go.
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He does take endless pot shots at TDKR and man of steel, but I hardly see how that invalidates his opinion on thor. He can like what he wants.
 
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CosmicGroinPull

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Silexx said:
It's his thing, it's what he built his audience with. If it's not your style, that's fine and I don't blame you, but I've always liked his takes and he's not always this riled up, he saves it for the ones that really get to him (see his 'Pixels' and 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' reviews.

If you want to listen to him more subdued and/or positive, check out his 'Really That Good' series.

Edit: Alternatively, if you'd rather just read his review, you can go here: http://moviebob.blogspot.ca/2016/03/review-batman-v-superman-dawn-of.html?spref=tw&m=1
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Ah, okay.
 
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Alandrus Sun

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Candescence said:
Um... He doesn't hate TDKR, nor does he absolutely adore either of the Thor movies. He just considers TDKR a decent flick but still a rather large disappointment compared to TDK (to be fair, TDK raised the bar really high), and he doesn't even rate either of the Thor movies very highly amongst the rest of the MCU.
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Nope.

Just rewatched his review of DD S2, couldn't hold back taking shots of TDKR there either:

https://youtu.be/M0a3pD5YWsc?t=53s

"I mean Jesus even their bad movies up to this point (Iron-Man 2 and Thor: Dark World) are still better than some other bad movies I can name (MoS, Green Lantern, and TDKR)."

Yeah, you heard it folks TDKR is worse than Thor: The Dark World.
 
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Shaanyboi

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Candescence said:
Christ, I saw MovieBob's review and he was completely furious over this thing (with good reason, granted, he even dissected a summary of the plot and it sounded completely stupid), but I didn't think this movie would do so badly with other critics as well. 40-50% aggregate score is not as bad as some other bombs, but it's still kind of a disaster.

Honestly, it's probably a good sign that WB needs to abort this thing like they did with Green Lantern. This probably isn't the sort of direction a DCMU should be going in. Or at least they should just jettison Synder. It's clear the guy has no idea what he's doing.
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I'm not sure which would be perceived worse. Rebooting and reestablishing all these characters again, even the ones that come out less scathed by this movie (Wonder Woman, and atleast aspects of Batman), or sticking to it with a new creative team and trying to salvage what you can in hopes that people will eventually get invested in this universe.

All I know is that these characters deserve better.
 
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