If it only does $130m then the DCCU will be over. We won't get Cyborg or Aquaman and The Flash will be on the chopping block. Having said that I think $200 is doable.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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If it only does $130m then the DCCU will be over. We won't get Cyborg or Aquaman and The Flash will be on the chopping block. Having said that I think $200 is doable.
echoshifting
Banned
Can we stop pretending we're talking about the movie bombing? Who is even saying that? Of course it's going to make money. That's not the point. It needs to make a hell of a lot of money, and it needs to be better received by audiences than it has been by critics. It needs to have legs.
Shit is tired. Obviously the movie isn't gonna bomb.
Shit is tired. Obviously the movie isn't gonna bomb.
Nolan produced Man of Steel, and asked Snyder not to do one of the things Man of Steel is criticized most for.
Yes and it's one of the few superhero experiences I regret.
I mean, say what you will about the Fant4stic film, at least it had the common decent to end far sooner than BvS did so I didn't feel like I wasted THAT much time, but this lumbering monster of a film just kept on GOING.
TheFuzz
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Batman and superman. Stuff blows up. And spring break means more people in theatres. It not going to have TFA legs, but even a "bad" movie will hang around just because of the characters and their recognition. That's my opinion, though.
RustyNails
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What did Nolan tell him not to do? Curious.
To give GAF some credit they were right about the quality of the movie before it was even reviewed. So yeah....even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Gaf on BvS reviews - Right once.
Gaf on Bvs bombing at the box office - Right Twice.
Inferno313
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Have Superman kill.
Joel Was Right
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Mr. PlayStation
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To kill zod
I've seen a ton of shit,so I'm fully prepared.
RustyNails
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Ah got it. Thanks.
The opening weekend matters less than the following weekend. The question is whether it will have legs. The opening isn't in doubt.
He didn't tell Snyder "don't do that," but he didn't like the idea of Superman killing Zod.
Screaming Meat
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You, sir, are talking bollocks.
Your Joker looks like Bruce Dern and It. Is. Awesome. As is Harley
I really like your work! You doing any regular comic work?God yeah. It was great to see the 'home' team do so well. Most of them cut their teeth on 2000AD, which used to be an absolute hotbed of talent and weirdness (your stuff would not be out of place there).
As much as i wish it would bomb...you're right
And that is why so much garbage is made
This. People need to remember that Man of Steel and Amazing Spider Man 2 both made back their budgets twice over (over $600m WW) but they 'bombed' because bad word of mouth killed their chances and made it obvious that a straight sequel was not the right place to launch a cinematic universe - which is what the producers want to do here. Bad word of mouth here kills Justice League. THAT is the real fear.
As long as Warner execs don't change their policy of extreme seriousness, dramatism and no fun, these movies will stay like... this until they bomb. BvS will not bomb by any means, it takes a Joel Schumacher to kill Batman, but I'm worried by the rest of the planned DC movies if this trend goes on. Like, do you really think Cyborg or Aquaman can work in this universe? Maybe Suicide squad helps, I don't know, but Marvel for all its failings nails the tone of all its movies while Warner totally fails.
Saving this for future reference.Just 30 minutes to go.
So excited
Demoncarnotaur
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Yikes... these reviews. I actually enjoyed MoS, but that's because I don't follow the comics enough to really 'get' Superman.
Problem is, the BvS trailers have all looked pretty bad to me, the reviews are reaffirming my reservations. I'm gonna see it, but I'm not expecting too much beyond some cool Batman scenes.
whoa, I thought this was tracking way higher than that?
Problem is, the BvS trailers have all looked pretty bad to me, the reviews are reaffirming my reservations. I'm gonna see it, but I'm not expecting too much beyond some cool Batman scenes.
whoa, I thought this was tracking way higher than that?
DerZuhälter
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None of my friends wanted to join me. Going to the movies alone for the first time of my life. And for what? A movie I expect to be a complete and total trainwreck.
At least it's 2D.
At least it's 2D.
BronsonLee
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Oh so they had a shitload of people telling them it was a bad idea
And then forced it through anyway
THANKS GUYS
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Makes sense. Nolan made it a big theme of the Batman movies. Snyder doesn't even seem to acknowledge that it may be a problem. What he said comparing MOS to Star Wars is baffling.
Sony killed ASM because they're run by fucking idiots (see: hacks).
I guess I'm also not as attached to some characters than the others. Like, Fant4stic riled me up because my favorite villain is Dr. Doom, and they screwed him up AGAIN... that hurt. But I'm not strung-up on whether Nicolas Cage botched Ghost Rider or whether Helle Berry's Catwoman did damage to the Batman universe or whether Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern was going to upset.
But I do have a pretty strong attachment to both Batman and Superman, and I felt like some kid in the theater internally screaming "Batman doesn't do that! Superman doesn't act like that! You're doing it all wrong! This isn't what's supposed to happen!"
My feelings about it are very similar to the Frank Miller All-Star Batman or the Azrael-Batman; it just doesn't sit right with me.
RustyNails
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Fukken idiots.
Well then!
Jack Remington
Banned
So the audience score on RT is 86%. Seems like these are real reviews too, or at least most of them are.
Another case of critic vs audience disconnect?
Another case of critic vs audience disconnect?
Just 30 minutes to go.
So excited
For me it's roughly a hour to go.
Felt like deja vu in regards to Marvel guy sending Sony that email to fix ASM isn't?
Blockbuster audience scores, especially for stuff with beloved characters, is always higher.
BronsonLee
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Snyder's movies usually skew this way. I'm still of the opinion that this isn't a very good movie, but there are definitely parts in it that are worth seeing in IMAX
Inferno313
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The movie isn't out yet. The only audiences who have seen it are the folks who have gotten into the early fan screenings, and they're not exactly an un-biased audience.
CosmicGroinPull
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I'm game to watch someone bash the movie, but holy shit that was unpleasant to watch. Did he have to read so fast and then artificially speed it up some more? I had to stop halfway.
RustyNails
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"Theme" is something Hack Snyder doesn't have in his vocab. He is not even an average director. He's just a glorified editor.
I don't think you have to worry about Cival War at all. That movie has Spidey in it.
shortsFortallPeople
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Also, let's just think about this for a moment: the name of the movie he's comparing Man of Steel to?
Star WARS
the man is just simply and undeniably an idiot
LegendofDragoonLives
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Why Nolan is the GOAT. The man can probably walk on water if he wanted to.
TheFuzz
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More to my point. Audience (i.e. People buying tickets) will see the highs (and even the bad reviews mention there are a good number of highs) and ignore the lows.
I know it's "hype" but a lot of kids and casual people will probably eat this stuff up and not have a conniption if Snyder butchers a comic book character.
Inferno313
Banned
I mean...
He hired Snyder.
This whole thing is Nolan's fault.
Hell, Snyder's competition for the job was Duncan Jones and Matt Reeves.
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