Agreed, this seems like a very, very hard place to be in. Wasting the good would be too, well, wasteful, but it has lost so much good will.. maybe Suicide Squad gives people more hope and then maybe a Flashpoint immedaitely after JL could soft reset this.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Pai Pai Master
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Lol its annoying that he can't let it go, but it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. I happen to agree too.
Baron von Loathsome
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Eh, to be fair, that's from an origin story.
If the DCCU needs to be rebooted at some point I'd rather they just do a hard reboot and not some kind of Flashpoint event
Ouch.
ElBoxyBrown
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Suicide Squad is leading the charge.
I don't agree. I hate Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy though.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Screaming Meat
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Nah, I'm an argumentative SOB. The work is good. End of.
Yeah, Red Son is amazing (named a band after a line in it). I think Morrison said he wishes he never gave him that ending idea.
Millar is hit and miss for me (his recent stuff is... yeah). Authority was quite good and, contrary to popular opinion, I think his run on Ultimates was actually a pretty good take. Hulk was hilarious and I loved the idea of him as 'the nuclear option'. Cap had some genius moments too and was a particularly interesting take because he was very much from an outsider's (non-US) perspective. A sly little dig on the US at the time. I thought it worked pretty well.
My two biggest issues with him are that he's a mean bastard (at least Ennis has/had some genuine heart) and he popularised the 'Superhero as part of the Military Industrial Complex'. I really hate that.
To this day I dont understand the hate on watchmen.
I read the comics, loved it.
Watched the movie, loved it!
win win
Dash_Riprock
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No, just no.
Alandrus Sun
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but that doesn't make them right, especially when the entire consensus is against them. TDKR is certified fresh on RT with a 87% score with all critics, 75% score with Top Critics, and a Audience Score of 90%. Thor 2 is 66% with All Critics, 43% with Top Critics, and as a Audience Score of 78%. So lets dispel with the notion that TDKR is a bad film.
SchrodingerC
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Based on what?
That Speed Racer is a good movie? The racing scenes are the only decent thing in that entire movie, which the Wachowski siblings took their sweet ass time to get to.
You're not helping BvS's case by using Speed Racer as an example of being wronged by critics.
The Dark Knight Rises is not a better movie than Iron Man 1, Winter Soldier, The Avengers, and maybe Guardians of the Galaxy. Shit I might even put Captain America 1 above it. TDKR's writing is incredibly lazy and it's the worst of the Nolanverse movies.
Pai Pai Master
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An entire consensus of opinions?
You can't seriously say that someones personal preference on a movie can be right or wrong.
Ha, ha, what? Thor The Dark World is one of my least fav MCU movies while TDKR besides some problems is really good.
roflwaffles
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I'd say TDKR is better than:
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Thor
Thor 2
Antman
AoU
It's on the same level as Cap 1 for me and not as good as Avengers, Iron Man 1, GotG, or TWS.
Gordon Shumway
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Tug..
Alandrus Sun
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You're gonna take flak for this but I agree. TDKR is up there as one of my favorite comic book movies of all time along with the rest of the Nolan trilogy.
blame space
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kinda blowing my mind that these youtube critics have people arguing about their opinions.
Yep, I agree with this as well.
The DCU isn't using Suicide Squad or its characters as its centerpiece. I'm sure it could get sequels etc. but the Justice League are the characters that need to succeed for this thing to work.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
broncobuster
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Surely you must understand the irony of this in a rotten tomato thread.
TheLostBigBoss
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Ok, that is a far different situation where Spider Man wasn't going to be part of a major universe with separate offshoot movies in shooting/development
Baron von Loathsome
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It's telling that DC won't even use the Suicide Squad name when the characters appear in family-friendly media like Lego Batman.
I mean, TDKR is better than a good chunk of MCU movies (id say IM1, TWS and GotG are better and that's it) but its still got tons of fundamental issues.
Arguing that any Thor thing is better than it is laughable though lol
OmegaSmash
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The hate comes from the fact that it's a superficial adaptation that misses the point of the comic in the first place.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
So this just happened during the commentary of the India vs Bangladesh Cricket match in India which was fairly closely fought
Pomil Proch: "Fitting enough to say that the script of this match is way way better than Batman Vs Superman "
Lol
Pomil Proch: "Fitting enough to say that the script of this match is way way better than Batman Vs Superman "
Lol
You do know that Sony was originally planning a Spider-Man Cinematic Universe where there was going to be Amazing Spider-Man 3, Sinister Six, Venom (I think), and I believe even an Aunt May movie - right? And then Amazing Spider-Man 2 happened.
Dash_Riprock
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echoshifting
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lmao, what?? So random
No, Kaz Hirai happened.
Inferno313
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Thinking about it, I think Snyder is kind of the perfect director for all the folks who hate on the X-Men movies because they don't have comic-accurate costumes.
He can fucking nail a pitch-perfect visual adaptation of whatever source material you throw at him, while completely missing the spirit of the character's and story that he's working with.
I was happier having not known all that. And to think, this is the guy signed up for two more movies.
AHA-Lambda
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ElBoxyBrown
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Sony should buy DC.
Screaming Meat
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KOMANI
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100 % agree. I loved that Bryan Hitch art man.Nah, I'm an argumentative SOB. The work is good. End of.
Yeah, Red Son is amazing (named a band after a line in it). I think Morrison said he wishes he never gave him that ending idea.
Millar is hit and miss for me (his recent stuff is... yeah). Authority was quite good and, contrary to popular opinion, I think his run on Ultimates was actually a pretty good take. Hulk was hilarious and I loved the idea of him as 'the nuclear option'. Cap had some genius moments too and was a particularly interesting take because he was very much from an outsider's (non-US) perspective. A sly little dig on the US at the time. I thought it worked pretty well.
My two biggest issues with him are that he's a mean bastard (at least Ennis has/had some genuine heart) and he popularised the 'Superhero as part of the Military Industrial Complex'. I really hate that.
So you're in a band huh? What did you name it? And can hear it?
I named my band, Disasters of the Universe... Haha always chuckle when I say it out loud.
Keep Avi Arad the hell away. Spider-Man can survive his hellish onslaught of awfulness. Few DC characters can do the same.
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TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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This. Kermode is the man, even if I don't agree with his opinions.
Also people endlessly shitting all over the MCU movies is so weird.
shortsFortallPeople
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the changes to the ending miss the point entirely
Not really.
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