Is this really the case? My brother in law is bringing my four year old nephew to this movie...
4 seems really fucking young for this. Like, really young.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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4 seems really fucking young for this. Like, really young.
Dash_Riprock
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I distinctly remember Daredevil reviews saying he was the one bright spot and everything else was ass.
Deja vu...
Saint Gregory
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OK that's interesting because it's definitely something that irked me in some of his earlier films but it wasn't as noticeable as it was in MoS.
Makes me wonder if he's one of those directors that sits over the editor's shoulder or even worse alters your cuts
MetalFearSolid
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I thought he deserved a second chance after The Town, Argo and Gone Girl.
Apparently, people saying the film is shit and his performance as Bruce Wayne is the worst adaptation by an actor yet?
My goodness.
BronsonLee
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This was never ever ever ever EVER going to be R
Suzushiiro
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The post in question wasn't spoiler-tagged (IIRC), so I didn't think to spoiler tag. Sorry about that.
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That said, I'd classify that as less of a spoiler and more of a warning, considering how fucking bullshit it is
I swear if Wonder Woman underperforms and it can be traced in any way back to Snyder I'm going to be so pissed.
LucidMomentum
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I'd still pay for that.
flaxknuckles
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You know what, as promising as Suicide Squad and WW look I need BvS to flop so they reboot the universe and we can get an authentic take on Lex Luthor. Or just retcon it that he's the real Lex Luthor's son.
Isn't he already?
Pai Pai Master
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Where have we seen that? All accounts I've heard/read appear to point that, aside from that one thing that may or may not be a spoiler, he's one of the better Bruce Waynes on film.
Who is saying this?
I think you may be confusing it with the films take on Batman, not Affleck playing Batman.
Mah man.
Absolutely, sorry it's late over here (and it was a long day and a long movie).
Oh shit, the Justice League takes on the Crime Syndicate in the next movie :0
So.
I hated this movie. HATED IT.
It is an absolute mess. As people have said the editing is really terrible. There is NO chemistry between the characters. In fact
People here are going to be pissed the way these characters are handled.
Seriously wait for the Blu Ray. I have a huge headache from it.
I hated this movie. HATED IT.
It is an absolute mess. As people have said the editing is really terrible. There is NO chemistry between the characters. In fact
I cant remember Wonder Woman and Superman talking to one another the entire film.
People here are going to be pissed the way these characters are handled.
Seriously wait for the Blu Ray. I have a huge headache from it.
Pai Pai Master
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What if this was the Crime Syndicate origin story all along
Just watched it and oh boy what a movie. It's not a bad movie but not good either, it just manages being mediocre because it has some good moments and scenes.
Here is a quick summary of what was great and not before I go to sleep.
+ Jeremy Irons, Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck were great and did a good job playing their characters, Henry Cavill was good as well but not as great as the others.
+ It has (mostly) good action and the movie looks great
+ Great Score
- It had one of the worst editing I've ever scene, almost every scene felt disconnected and jumpy. You definitely get the feeling that stuff was deleted.
- Due to the bad editing the overalls structure and pacing of the movie is crumbled.
- The character building is underdeveloped and motivation is lacking. Why did X did that and how did something like Y suddenly make him feel ... and do this.
- Shoehorning future relevant stuff that was unnecessary.
- As Good as Wonder Woman is, her presence is not needed, it's basically fanservice.
- Lex Luthor is bad, batshit bad. It's like he is a mix between Zuckerberg, the Joker and some other crazy guy who seems to be playing an intelligent guy.
I'd rank MoS as 7.8 and BvS as 6.0.
The one big negative that annoyed me about the movie is the bad editing, it feels amateurish almost like a fan made movie. The Extended Cut has to be really amazing to fix this mess and I'm seriously concerned about the DCCU, especially for Justice League with Snyder again at the helm.
Here is a quick summary of what was great and not before I go to sleep.
+ Jeremy Irons, Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck were great and did a good job playing their characters, Henry Cavill was good as well but not as great as the others.
+ It has (mostly) good action and the movie looks great
+ Great Score
- It had one of the worst editing I've ever scene, almost every scene felt disconnected and jumpy. You definitely get the feeling that stuff was deleted.
- Due to the bad editing the overalls structure and pacing of the movie is crumbled.
- The character building is underdeveloped and motivation is lacking. Why did X did that and how did something like Y suddenly make him feel ... and do this.
- Shoehorning future relevant stuff that was unnecessary.
- As Good as Wonder Woman is, her presence is not needed, it's basically fanservice.
- Lex Luthor is bad, batshit bad. It's like he is a mix between Zuckerberg, the Joker and some other crazy guy who seems to be playing an intelligent guy.
I'd rank MoS as 7.8 and BvS as 6.0.
The one big negative that annoyed me about the movie is the bad editing, it feels amateurish almost like a fan made movie. The Extended Cut has to be really amazing to fix this mess and I'm seriously concerned about the DCCU, especially for Justice League with Snyder again at the helm.
shira
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BlackGhost
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Gemüsepizza
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Just saw the movie... Fuck the guys who are responsible for this. Seriously.
And this movie is supposed to be the foundation for the DCEU?
And this movie is supposed to be the foundation for the DCEU?
Exactly, even watchmen that has lots of stuff going on is easy to follow and has all in place nicely.
MoS was god damn at some point I didnt even knew WTF was going on.
Thanks for the responses guys.
Damn it editor.
VeryGooster
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If it under performs I would say it has more to do with it being a period piece imo.
BlackGhost
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Maybe dumb question. But I've never seen a movie in 3D in theaters. How is it? Don't want it to take away from my experience. See a early listing for RealD 3D on Friday.
You keep saying this and it's just not true. There's a large middle ground between not caring about collateral damage and loudly announcing that people aren't around so that the fighting can happen.
Better than sombreros I guess.
Don't. It's dark, very dark, uncomfortable and unneccessary. Don't give cinemas that money, it sends the wrong message.
Unless a movie is shot/remastered with 3D as an utmost priority, expect it to be a bane on your viewing experience.
Sibersk Esto
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and Danny Trejo
Stay away from 3D in my opinion.
wow. I thought for sure it would climb close to 50% after the initial wave.
Yeah, I'm sure by this point Snyder has a play or pay deal that makes it more expensive for WB to dump
him and hire another director. More likely, WB will play a more overbearing role in how Justice League shapes up and doesn't give Snyder as much free rein.
BlackGhost
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Alright thanks guys. Skipped 3D for force awakens too, wasn't sure if should give it a chance here. I'll just see the regular Verison, thanks
Good Job Bob
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The movie is so bad the guy who was supposed to create the OT seems to have disappeared.
Gemüsepizza
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Don't listen to the haters, 3D is solid and does not distract from the viewing experience in any way.
Bullshit. Today's 3D conversions are flawless.
Coming from you, I think I should be relieved.
AlfredX1990
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So 42% is going to be remembered as the best this movie ever was?
DerZuhälter
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Agreed. But you forgot to mention with the editing that the movie does flashbacks, to scenes that happened not even 45 minutes ago. Yes. Nolan flashbacks and hand-holding seems like a delicate touch in contrast.
Considering the bolded stuff:
The portrayal is extremely weird. It still centers quite heavily on Snyder's abysmal space jesus angle. Quite embarrasingly so. You've seen the trailers? Everytime he does something heroic Snyder captures him in these glory shots that emphazise him being an otherworldy, divine being. There's no interaction between savior and saved. It's done on purpose as it has been done in Man of Steel as well, and I still hate it.
Yes, it works it terms of the greater story of the picture, the still lingering disconnect between humanity and him, but it seems incredibly forced.
Over the course of two movies now, it feels like Superman has no clear direction. Does he just want to save people from time to time and bang Lois, or does he want to be a shining beacon of hope?
"You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time you will help them acomplish wonders" Jor-El, Man of Steel.
Yeah. Nothing. Still.
Cavill thus lacks any kind of humanity, except for human flaws. I feel these are directing and writing decision that shackle Cavill from giving a good performance.
On to Batfleck. With the material given, he gives a good performance, but I had issues with the type of Batman he is. As already said: Bale seems like a brainy surgeon contrasting the bluntness of this Batman. Yes, he does prep work for the fight with Superman, but that's about the brainiest stuff he does in the movie.
From the get-go I knew I wouldn't like this Batman because the murder of his parents was handled bad.
If you like action, and don't care or know about other Superman and Batman interpretation you might get some fun out of it. Everybody with a lot a love for Superman and Batman, stay away.
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