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Dante's Inferno is actually really GOOD!

Loudninja said:
Really what are people deals? a person cant like one game over the other? People liek games for different reasons that does not make them shallow.

I didn't mean to state that as fact. Not everything needs an "IMO" at the end on the internet.

Look, I'm not going to deny I'm missing some essentials in my favorite genre, but Bayonetta is a very important game in a genre that isn't as big as some people seem to think. There's nothing wrong with disliking it but I'm of the opinion that you can't call yourself a genre expert if you haven't played at least a decent amount of it.
 

Karram

Member
Dante's Inferno is a terrible, terrible game in every way possible. The combat was bad, enemies were boring, Button mashing was used way too much and it looked like a PS2 game. Good thing I just rented it.
 
Rez said:
we JUST had this discussion.

like, not even a day ago.

Tomorrow we'll have a Darksiders thread and finally a NG2 thread.

Then the cycle will repeat when Castlevania is released.

Finally culminating in an every action game vs every other action game thread.
 

Sidzed2

Member
It's not even proper to raise Bayonetta in any thread re: God of War or Dante's Inferno. Bayonetta has something else on its mind; it packs spectacle and adventure, but at its heart it is focused on highly-technical combat, and in that context it is peerless.

God of War and Dante's Inferno are, obviously, directly comparable, being combat-focused action-adventures with mid-level combat. I like to think of them as 'Final Fight with platforming' or 'Golden Axe with platforming' rather than hardcore combat titles. ANYWAY, the point is that Dante's Inferno is just so bland and forgettable that it is an insult to the God of War franchise to mention it in the same breath. Dante's Inferno is an excellent example of how the best games are more than the sum of their parts; the best games, the truly classic ones, have a soul... and EA's game has none.
 
MvmntInGrn said:
How are those things shallow? Art and Presentation may be just cosmetic, but to many they do impact the overall experience. Level design is extremely important to gameplay.

No matter how much you like a the core gameplay, not liking anything else about it could certainly lead to someone labeling it as forgettable.

Yeah, I'm guilty of disliking games for the exact same reasons. In fact, my enjoyment of GOW3 is a lot less than it could be because I don't care for Greek mythology.

The point I'm trying to make is that when someone says "I'm a huge fan of action games", it's implied combat takes precedence. He should be able to look past the problems he has with everything else if he truly only plays 2 genres.
 

Canova

Banned
Karram said:
Dante's Inferno is a terrible, terrible game in every way possible. The combat was bad, enemies were boring, Button mashing was used way too much and it looked like a PS2 game. Good thing I just rented it.


Fair enough at least you played it. But there ar people that dismiss the game without even playing it.
 

Sidzed2

Member
cosmicblizzard said:
...I don't care for Greek mythology.

Fair enough, but I find that interesting. I thought it was pretty much impossible for someone to not love Greek mythology. It rocks :)
 
Sidzed2 said:
Fair enough, but I find that interesting. I thought it was pretty much impossible for someone to not love Greek mythology. It rocks :)

I'm honestly more of a Norse guy. I have no idea why, but Greek just doesn't interest me even though it has pretty much everything I find awesome.
 

Manus

Member
Dante's Inferno also was very bland, besides maybe two circles of hell everything looked bad.
 
Sidzed2 said:
Fair enough, but I find that interesting. I thought it was pretty much impossible for someone to not love Greek mythology. It rocks :)

I wonder what someone who wasn't into Greek myths would say if I told them GoW is a lighter and softer take on Greek mythology. :lol

cosmicblizzard said:
I'm honestly more of a Norse guy. I have no idea why, but Greek just doesn't interest me even though it has pretty much everything I find awesome.

Not enough Thor and Loki.

A good number of the stories involving those two are hilarious.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
dralla said:
4 weapons, 4 magics, 3 items all available at any time for a combo. and the grapple attacks and battering ram? legible QTE prompts also help. it's really not even close.


3 of them are basically the same, Dante has at least as much magic and DI has like 40 relics that augment the combat abilities. Dante can grab enemies as well. Both games have enemies are are just kinda there for you to hammer on, as well. Neither game pushes you during combat. It's not like Gaiden 2 or something where you are picking enemy types out of crowds to dismember and obliterate so you can have a fighting chance for the rest of the encounter. In God of War 3 you can pretty much square->square-> triangle your way through the entire game, same with Dante's Inferno.
 

tokkun

Member
Is the full Dante's Inferno experience substantially different from what you sample in the demo? Because I played through the demo and really disliked it.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
I wonder what someone who wasn't into Greek myths would say if I told them GoW is a lighter and softer take on Greek mythology. :lol



Not enough Thor and Loki.

A good number of the stories involving those two are hilarious.

Never said I don't know about it. I was a Classics major, so I took quite a few mythology classes. I know GOW is tame in comparison :lol

And yeah, Thor and Loki ftw.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
Yeah, I'm guilty of disliking games for the exact same reasons. In fact, my enjoyment of GOW3 is a lot less than it could be because I don't care for Greek mythology.

The point I'm trying to make is that when someone says "I'm a huge fan of action games", it's implied combat takes precedence. He should be able to look past the problems he has with everything else if he truly only plays 2 genres.
Most consumers (dedicated gamers or otherwise) who pick up an action game won't go very deep into the games combat. A few memorized moves and lots of continues. They can still be huge fans of the genre, just not in the way you are a fan of it. You are looking for depth, others are just looking to kick the crap out of things. In both cases combat does take precedence, but they are still very different.

And "looking past the problems" only goes so far. I can look past not liking the art for a game, or a few technical issues. But it would be silly to suggest that if you dislike a lot of elements for a game that you should look past them and just keep playing because the core gameplay is that good. Games are entertainment, why force yourself to look past issues you have with Bayonetta when you could be playing Dante's Inferno which may not have combat as deep, but you are enjoying more than just one or two parts of.
 

JdFoX187

Banned
Coming off beating God of War III a couple days ago, I wanted to go back and finish Dante's Inferno. I'm halfway through Greed and I just don't feel it. The camera is too damn slow, the hit detection is god awful, there's hardly any impact to the moves and Dante seems like he weights 50 pounds. There's just no weight to anything he does.

I somewhat like the story and how they've "adapted" the epic, but it's a solid 7.0 at best.
 

linsivvi

Member
Rez said:
A bad game by all standards today, a bad game by PS2 standards.

Utterly mediocre in every single way.

Disagree with your first sentence, but agree with your second.

It's a decidedly mediocre game. Nothing of this game is done terribly though there's nothing spectacular either.
 
It's not a bad game, just not that great when compared to other similar genres like Bayonetta, Darksiders, and of course, God of War III.

I'd play Dante's Inferno but only when there's a price drop. I wouldn't want it for $60, or even $40. I'd get it for $30 though.
 
I can't offer an opinion on this game. I can only say that I rented it and played it for probably 3 hours and then put the disc back in the case until I had to return it a week later.
 
I'll just jump in and say that Mini Ninjas is a better action-adventure game then anything else mentioned in this thread

6 combat styles / weapons that mix short and long range combat
ability to posses animals for fighting or item gathering
FISHING!
gorgeous visuals
good mix of action, stealth, and magic
maxing your level leads to the ability to
possess the most common enemies
best bonus since Spyro 2

Fantastic and completely underrated gem
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
I was gonna say all kinds of negative things about DI but I realized I haven't even played the game yet. I just find the idea of it to be repugnant. Sorta like clown porn.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
tokkun said:
Is the full Dante's Inferno experience substantially different from what you sample in the demo? Because I played through the demo and really disliked it.

I played the demo a couple of times and enjoyed it enough the first time, but the second time I started to dislike it. The full game didn't turn out to be so different.

I was hoping to have a good time with the game, going in with modest expectations, but boy, it was hard to endure. I played on the second of the 4 difficulties, which I assume is "normal," and it felt like every enemy took way too long to kill, every battle lasted at least twice as long as it needed to, the bosses were pretty shitty for the most part, and the environments weren't nearly as interesting as they should have been. The puzzles were extremely punitive for no good reason, and some of the checkpoints were oddly placed. I constantly felt like the health fountains were absent when I needed them most and present when I didn't need them at all. And the wall-scaling, vertical traversal was WAAAAYYYY overused.

The pacing felt awful to me, like the game was 80% padding. The combat system itself was competent, but everything else I mentioned prevented it from being much fun. The God of War Collection contains two markedly better games.
 
I really enjoyed DI, the last boss special effects are insane, it looks so awesome. The sound design was stellar and I thought they realized the world very well. Cross attacks are sweet too. DI was good fun :D
 

Canova

Banned
tokkun said:
Is the full Dante's Inferno experience substantially different from what you sample in the demo? Because I played through the demo and really disliked it.


as you gain more moves, the combat becomes a lot more fun.

I guess what I like the most about DI is the bosses. Theý are not gigantic bosses. So the fights are less patternized. And you have to actually use your ranged attacks to neutralize some enemies
 
I played through DI because the combat was awesome and the game was generally fun to play.

I suffered through GoW3's dull, repetitive combat and terrible story just to QTE my way through the next awesome boss fight.
 
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Deleted member 8095

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I bet 90% of the people posting in this thread have never even played Dante. I'll never understand why GAF can't just leave a thread like this alone if they haven't even played the game. Why do people always come into threads like this and talk about other games? Who gives a fuck if it isn't as good as GoW3 or Bayonetta. OP liked DI. Get the fuck over it. I'm surprised Uncharted 2 hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.
 
Dante's Inferno isn't an awful game. How can it be, when it's essentially a clone of a very good game in God of War? The problem with Dante's Inferno isn't in execution (competent), setting (hilariously competent considering what it's based on), or in gameplay (competent). The problem is the sheer cynicism and creative bankrutpcy in making a game which basically is a 100% perfect clone of God of War. I understand that EA has been losing a lot of money the last few years by trying to do the gaming business "the right way" while Activision is raking in money by being the biggest shitheads in gaming's history, but there's a fine line between imitation being flattery and imitation being a blatant example of being creatively bankrupt.

I played the demo of Dante's Inferno, and I thought it was fun. I might pick the game up when it goes Greatest Hits.
 

Manus

Member
Bumblebeetuna said:
I played through DI because the combat was awesome and the game was generally fun to play.

I suffered through GoW3's dull, repetitive combat and terrible story just to QTE my way through the next awesome boss fight.

If you find that God of War 3's combat is dull you need to learn to play the game than. You can link so many different moves from a grab to a ram, than to switch up to another weapon to keep the combo going.

All Dante's is just scythe scythe and the occasional cross.
 
MyFaceIsOnFire said:
I bet 90% of the people posting in this thread have never even played Dante. I'll never understand why GAF can't just leave a thread like this alone if they haven't even played the game. Why do people always come into threads like this and talk about other games? Who gives a fuck if it isn't as good as GoW3 or Bayonetta. OP liked DI. Get the fuck over it. I'm surprised Uncharted 2 hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

Oh shit, that's right.

Uncharted 2 is a waaaaaaaaaaaaay batter game than DI.

Knew I forgot to say something.:D
 

Bodom78

Member
I didn't mind Dante's Inferno, but I couldn't help feeling unsatisfied after completing it. I loved the settings and atmosphere, but by the end it felt as tough something was lacking.

Had the most fun with Bayonetta, was blow away the most with GOWIII.
 

tafer

Member
MyFaceIsOnFire said:
I bet 90% of the people posting in this thread have never even played Dante. I'll never understand why GAF can't just leave a thread like this alone if they haven't even played the game. Why do people always come into threads like this and talk about other games? Who gives a fuck if it isn't as good as GoW3 or Bayonetta. OP liked DI. Get the fuck over it. I'm surprised Uncharted 2 hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

Not messing with the %, but it is exactly the same stuff with every single thread where the "x vs y game" shows its ugly face:
- A lot of people haven't started the two games in question.
- If one of the games is a console exclusive, you'll have a bunch of console warriors frenetically defending or attacking the title. (And of course, probably none of them have played the game)
- Good old, bad blooded trolling. :)lol)

Anyway, I'm trying to decide between this one and Darksiders. I tried both demos and I have to say that I'm liking Darksiders much more, so I wanted some positive feedback about DI. You know, to see if I'm missing something... but this has proven to be quite difficult, at least in GAF.
 

NO!R

Banned
Himuro said:
Better than God of War.

Games like God of War and Dante's Inferno feel more like action adventure titles like Prince of Persia moreso than pure action titles like Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden.

I wish people would stop lumping them because the action in these titles pales compares to something like Ninja Gaiden.

I'm sorry but I beg to differ. Purely action games are just BORING, regardless of how ridiculously intricate the combat systems may be. If I want to beat up hordes of generic dudes with more moves that I count perform with my fingers I'll get myself a Tekken or SF game.

And please, don't compare any of those games to GOWIII. Just don't do it.
 

NO!R

Banned
Bumblebeetuna said:
I played through DI because the combat was awesome and the game was generally fun to play.

I suffered through GoW3's dull, repetitive combat and terrible story just to QTE my way through the next awesome boss fight.

You, partner, are a fucking newb if I ever saw one.

First off, pause the game and actually learn the moveset, and THEN read up on some mythology and try to wrap your head around the creativity put into this game's lore.
 

hamchan

Member
MyFaceIsOnFire said:
I bet 90% of the people posting in this thread have never even played Dante. I'll never understand why GAF can't just leave a thread like this alone if they haven't even played the game. Why do people always come into threads like this and talk about other games? Who gives a fuck if it isn't as good as GoW3 or Bayonetta. OP liked DI. Get the fuck over it. I'm surprised Uncharted 2 hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

I hate when people say this, really, what a stupid thing to say on a video game forum.

Also, why should people leave him alone? If he wants to create an entire thread to tell us his opinion we have the fucking right to rip it apart.

I do think DI is an OK game. Not great, not even good but there are worse games to spend your money on. However to say it's on par with any of the GOW games is pretty crazy imo. Maybe when the OP gets to the second last stage with all the shitty trials he'll realise all the faults of the game. Not even the horrible Path to Hades stage in GOW1 was as bad as that.
 

JWong

Banned
When you completely rip off something that's really fun, it usually can be really fun.

But it was copying God of War 2.
 

linsivvi

Member
tafer said:
Anyway, I'm trying to decide between this one and Darksiders. I tried both demos and I have to say that I'm liking Darksiders much more, so I wanted some positive feedback about DI. You know, to see if I'm missing something... but this has proven to be quite difficult, at least in GAF.

While Darksiders has its flaws, it's a way better game than Dante's Inferno. The combat is generally fun and the boss fights are ok. The dungeon design, however, is where the game really shines.
 

Blablurn

Member
thread title made me smile. oh god, i hate this game so much. who came up with the idea to add
challenge rooms
into the singleplayer? pathetic.
 

Animator

Member
tokkun said:
Is the full Dante's Inferno experience substantially different from what you sample in the demo? Because I played through the demo and really disliked it.


Actually if you played the demo you have played the best part of the game already. It goes to shit second after where the demo ends.


I cant think of a single good thing to say about the game, it was crap from beginning to end. Seeing the "buy souls with real money on the PSN store!" scam gave me a chuckle though. :lol
 
No it's not, the later circles are boring as hell and they nearly always set up some stupid "traps" in nearly every fight. Oh and the Challenges...

It's decent, but has too many "fuck ups" in it to be great.
 

Animator

Member
Have you guys seen the dev interview vid where they hype the Fraud level as if its some marvel of game design? Cant find the link now but it was hilarious.
 

Big-ass Ramp

hella bullets that's true
The whole "you're in hell" thing really began to wear down on me to the point where I started getting depressed.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
Animator said:
Actually if you played the demo you have played the best part of the game already. It goes to shit second after where the demo ends.

Ya that's not true. At all.
 

TEH-CJ

Banned
Big Ass Ramp said:
The whole "you're in hell" thing really began to wear down on me to the point where I started getting depressed.

Yea same here lol. probably the best depiction of hell in a game though.
 
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