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Sony announces PS4 Pro, $399, November 10th

Oersted

Member
This.

I really don't understand why so many people keep posting over and over "why would anyone get the Slim when this is only $100 more?"

Stop living in your own bubble and understand their are so many consumers out there.

I'm not paying that extra £100 because I don't have a 4K TV and have no intention of buying one for years - by then PS5 will be out. My £100 can be spent on games or frankly stuff that has nothing to do with games - like on my daughter or wife. To me that £100 is a waste of money

It's not rocket science...

Just wondering, why do people still call it Slim around here? Its just a PS4.
 

Melchiah

Member
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It'll be painful to wait for the December's tax returns to be able to buy the Pro. Oh well, at least the rumors about October release turned out to be false.


EDIT: Now I see what you did there.
 
any trade in deals for the UK people ?
GAME are trading in the original PS4 for £125.
Do you guys think, this is a fair price towards the Slim model ??
 

Melchiah

Member
499 cdn..fuck me.

I bet it will be 449€ in Finland, just like PS4 and PS3 had an added 50€ to their initial prices. Damn Nordisk Film, and their monopoly in Scandinavia.


EDIT: Just checked a local retailer, and it's 429,90€ here, so it's a bit better than I thought.
 

QuikNez

Member
Personally, I think Sony killed it, $399 machine, almost immediately available - sales will hit this holiday, lots of content... The only think I'm mildly disappointed at is the controller is the same.

Btw, I'm sure some else has brought this up, but anyone else think of Little Finger evertime you see Andrew House? Come on, identical as shit.

0UgsGo
 

nortonff

Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
Are we going to see reviews before release?
 

Melchiah

Member
From the official FAQ, that was just posted on their FB page:

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/
Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.
Q: Will PS4 Pro owners have a performance advantage in online games when competing against standard PS4 players?
Generally, no. Playtesting and balancing is up to each game developer, and while it’s true that PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can drive smoother or more stable frame rates in supported titles, developers have many tools and processes they can use to prevent imbalances.
Q: Will the Share button capture higher quality game content with PS4 Pro games?
When playing a game with PS4 Pro features, using DUALSHOCK 4’s Share button will generate higher resolution gameplay clips and screenshots compared to the standard PS4. Specifics will vary by game, but some games will support full 1080p video capture, and screenshots at up to 3840 x 2160 (4K) pixels.

Q: Will I be able to Broadcast my gameplay at higher settings?
Yes. At launch, you will be able to broadcast a YouTube stream at as high as 1080p and 60 frames per second.
 
Personally, I think Sony killed it, $399 machine, almost immediately available - sales will hit this holiday, lots of content... The only think I'm mildly disappointed at is the controller is the same.

Btw, I'm sure some else has brought this up, but anyone else think of Little Finger evertime you see Andrew House? Come on, identical as shit.

Hey. Littlefinger was a very memorable Baltimore mayor and time traveller.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
The most enthusing thing about this is...Polaris has already had the substantial legwork put into making it for TSMCs 16nm process, and AMD just payed for a hole to be poked in their wafer silicon agreement with GoSlo. So, TSMC Polaris+Vega chips sooner rather than later?
 

Kyrios

Member
Holy shit the amount of passive aggressiveness of my two friends keep posting to me about Pro and the Slim on FB is getting dumb.

Keep telling me PS4 is finished and the Slim won't sell at all, which we know that's not true, but still.

And not ONCE did I ever say anything bad about the Xbox One ever nor do I have anything to say. I don't even know where this came from.

I feel like I'm just the guy sitting in the back of the library reading a book by myself and someone comes over and punches me out for no reason.

Their fucking 27 years old and I'm like wtf.

Sorry I had to vent, because it's just getting annoying now. Hate system wars.
 

oti

Banned
Holy shit the amount of passive aggressiveness of my two friends keep posting to me about Pro and the Slim on FB is getting dumb.

Keep telling me PS4 is finished and the Slim won't sell at all, which we know that's not true, but still.

And not ONCE did I ever say anything bad about the Xbox One ever nor do I have anything to say. I don't even know where this came from.

I feel like I'm just the guy sitting in the back of the library reading a book by myself and someone comes over and punches me out for no reason.

Their fucking 27 years old and I'm like wtf.

Sorry I had to vent, because it's just getting annoying now. Hate system wars.

What are their GAF handles?
 
Holy shit the amount of passive aggressiveness of my two friends keep posting to me about Pro and the Slim on FB is getting dumb.

Keep telling me PS4 is finished and the Slim won't sell at all, which we know that's not true, but still.

And not ONCE did I ever say anything bad about the Xbox One ever nor do I have anything to say. I don't even know where this came from.

I feel like I'm just the guy sitting in the back of the library reading a book by myself and someone comes over and punches me out for no reason.

Their fucking 27 years old and I'm like wtf.

Sorry I had to vent, because it's just getting annoying now. Hate system wars.

Show them this picture to rile them up :p

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RootCause

Member
Holy shit the amount of passive aggressiveness of my two friends keep posting to me about Pro and the Slim on FB is getting dumb.

Keep telling me PS4 is finished and the Slim won't sell at all, which we know that's not true, but still.

And not ONCE did I ever say anything bad about the Xbox One ever nor do I have anything to say. I don't even know where this came from.

I feel like I'm just the guy sitting in the back of the library reading a book by myself and someone comes over and punches me out for no reason.

Their fucking 27 years old and I'm like wtf.

Sorry I had to vent, because it's just getting annoying now. Hate system wars.

You got some weird friends. :p I can't even remember the last time any of my friends bitched about console makers. :0
 

reKon

Banned
Holy shit the amount of passive aggressiveness of my two friends keep posting to me about Pro and the Slim on FB is getting dumb.

Keep telling me PS4 is finished and the Slim won't sell at all, which we know that's not true, but still.

And not ONCE did I ever say anything bad about the Xbox One ever nor do I have anything to say. I don't even know where this came from.

I feel like I'm just the guy sitting in the back of the library reading a book by myself and someone comes over and punches me out for no reason.

Their fucking 27 years old and I'm like wtf.

Sorry I had to vent, because it's just getting annoying now. Hate system wars.

embarassing
 
Huge disappointment feature wise and spec wise for sure. Same horrible cpu and no UHD? Feels like they're rushing the Pro out because PSVR is probably a very poor experience on the current model in comparison.

Glad I picked up a Xbox One S. Only way I would have considered the Pro at this point is if I didn't own a PS4 yet. Just going to stick with the current PS4 and grab a Scorpio next year.
 
Huge disappointment feature wise and spec wise for sure. Same horrible cpu and no UHD? Feels like they're rushing the Pro out because PSVR is probably a poor experience on the current model.

Glad I picked up a Xbox One S. Just going to stick with the current PS4 and grab a Scorpio next year.

But this has been proven to be patently false
 

dorn.

Member
Of course the PS4 slim isn't selling right now, it only exists at 299 to make the Pro more attractive. Everyone who wants a regular PS4 is just buying the regular one at ~200 ( there was a deal like that in Germany yesterday). It'll probably get discounted to 249 for christmas and 199 within the year and sell a ton at those price points tho.
 

Donos

Member
Slim won't sell? They just introduced slim bundles with either CoD IW, UC4 and Watchdogs 2 at 299 €/$. That shit is going to burn. Question is if Pro gets similar official bundles.
 
But this has been proven to be patently false

You've seen the difference in performance between both systems running PSVR? No way they are even close. When people see the difference between PS4 VR and the PC experience it's going to be especially obvious. Sony needed better hardware for PSVR if they wanted to release this year definitely. Not that the experience is necessarily horrible on the standard PS4. Just horrible in comparison due to hardware limitations.
 

JayBabay

Member
Not sure if this has been answered but I was curious if anyone has any knowledge on how the PS4 Pro will handle being displayed on a 1440p monitor?

All this talk is either 1080p or 4k and since I do both PC and Console gaming I wasn't sure how this would play out.
 

Curufinwe

Member
You've seen the difference in performance between both systems running PSVR? No way they are even close. When people see the difference between PS4 VR and the PC experience it's going to be especially obvious. Sony needed better hardware for PSVR if they wanted to release this year definitely. Not that the experience is necessarily horrible on the standard PS4. Just horrible in comparison due to hardware limitations.

That makes no sense when the PSVR is coming out first.
 
I got a 4k TV before HDR was really a "thing" (if it is even a thing now), so I'm guessing that the PS4 Pro would just treat my TV like an upscaled 1080p TV? Anyone have any idea?
 

Will0827

Member
Would this be the simple take away ?

Non 4K TV Owners
1080P Lock, 30/60 FPS Lock, More graphical Bells & Whistles

4K TV Owners
Upscaled/Checkerboard 4K, 30/60 FPS
Native 4K 30/60 FPS when possible
 
Not sure if this has been answered but I was curious if anyone has any knowledge on how the PS4 Pro will handle being displayed on a 1440p monitor?

All this talk is either 1080p or 4k and since I do both PC and Console gaming I wasn't sure how this would play out.

Expect it to pass a 1080p signal unless your monitor has a way to pretend it's 4K. I don't think Sony has any history of supporting PC monitor resolutions so it's probably just looking for 1080p and 4k, and if it doesn't see 4k you get the other one.

I got a 4k TV before HDR was really a "thing" (if it is even a thing now), so I'm guessing that the PS4 Pro would just treat my TV like an upscaled 1080p TV? Anyone have any idea?

Best guess: As long as your HDMI port can pass a real 4K signal I'd think you'd be able to play games in 4K. But if it's old enough to only pass 4k30 then you'd be framerate restricted, I suppose. HDR changes the color display but isn't adding pixels or anything.
 

Kyrios

Member
Show them this picture to rile them up :p

Lol maybe as a last resort :p I just shake my head.

You got some weird friends. :p I can't even remember the last time any of my friends bitched about console makers. :0

Right? It really is weird, especially me who never had anything bad to say about Xbox One lol

embarassing

Very, I'd expect this shit being spewed from a middle school kid, but grown ass adults?
 

cakely

Member
You've seen the difference in performance between both systems running PSVR? No way they are even close. When people see the difference between PS4 VR and the PC experience it's going to be especially obvious. Sony needed better hardware for PSVR if they wanted to release this year definitely. Not that the experience is necessarily horrible on the standard PS4. Just horrible in comparison due to hardware limitations.

Please, just stop.

Every demo we've seen so far, including the Best Buy Kiosks, has been on the old PS4 hardware.
 
Please, just stop.

Every demo we've seen so far, including the Best Buy Kiosks, has been on the old PS4 hardware.

Yeah, and that has what to do with my comment? I never said the experience on the standard PS4 wasn't worth it. There is just going to be a huge difference. And if they wanted to compete with other VR vendors they needed new hardware. What's so crazy about that? Being so defensive over a console isn't a good look yo.
 
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