FranXico
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"Sony" and "dynamic" do not belong in the same sentence LOL. They have a track record of being too slow to react.
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Batiman
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Are people really expecting that or joking?
Disco_
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Sosokrates
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They were quite quick taking advantage of the Xbox one mishaps at the start of this gen.
No way was jack trettons used games/always online speech was not changed based on what ms said.
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Null_Key
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I agree its a choice, a 2000 dollar laptops for the most part will have similarities in specs and design at a given price. For example if you got a 2000 gaming laptop and say it has a 2070 RTX, most likely whether it be a MSI, ASUS, ACER, it will really come down to minor tweaks and preference, unless over course you are individuals that enjoy paying a premium like Razer. PC though typically operate will alittle more leg room for manufacturers than console because they require a higher profit margin in order to maintain a business, while consoles rely mostly on royalties from software and GAAS platform for profitability. I enjoy both systems and while I play lean toward Playstation due to friends and the games that it have(huge fan of Persona), I also have Xbox One X because there are plenty of games I don't want to miss such as Forza and Gears. I think it's a really exciting time to be gamers, but this need for specs superiority is absurd, if you want specs, go buy 64 core desktop AMD EPYC Processor and SLI a crap ton of Titan x.
The issue with this is the assumption that RT will be handled by the CUs on the GPU of the series X. If they are implementing hardware acceleration for RT then it would have cores specifically handling this that are not part of the GPU compute performance. Correct me if I'm wrong
And here I thought it was ML cores on the die
Hawking Radiation
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Sosokrates
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There was a patent for AMD Ray tracing, and the way it works is that the RT hardware is built into each compute unit.
AMD Files Patent for Hybrid Ray Tracing Solution
AMD's stayed quiet about how it plans to support ray tracing, but a patent application published on June 27 offered a glimpse at what it's been working on.
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Null_Key
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On the contrary while it may seem like a good business practice, trolling a superior specs out there isn't very professional to begin with. To be honest I don't believe Sony would have said anything whether it has superior specs or not. Sony even with the PS4 gave vague information, until teams such as digital foundry decided to have a deep dive into the unit. Silence doesn't equate inferiority. Fanboys tries to make it a blood-shedding rivalry but Sony and Microsoft really only have to answer to there stakeholders. They may have a friendly banters between the two companies from time to time, but it's doubtful one will have an impact on another on timeline set for there reveal, on the other hand talent scouting is a different story, talented developers studios are hard to come by and companies acquisition network can be quite cutthroat, another aspect of this is securing manufacturing service, Companies like Foxconn only have so much capability to produce parts, many IT Companies fight to secure a contract for both priority and production count.
There was a patent for AMD Ray tracing, and the way it works is that the RT hardware is built into each compute unit.
Actually this implementation is better than having separate cores on the die. This saves space on the die while also taking load off the GPU so the TFLOPs do not account for the RT solution. The 12 tflops do not account for the RT. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Shmunter
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When deprived of sensory feedback or general stimulation through new information, the slow descent into madness is well documented.
ThaMonkeyClaw
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Sosokrates
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Well we have seen this back forth and game of one upmanship between Sony + Xbox. So it's not a matter of opinion we are seeing both companies play this game regarding the release of next gen console info.
FranXico
Member
"On site" = at E3, months after the news that MS would have always online DRM came out.
If you want to make the point that their silence right now reflects poorly on them, you can do so without distorting facts.
longdi
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No i remember they decided to film that video as a response to MS E3
FranXico
Member
The video was made at E3, mocking MS, but everybody knew about the DRM long before the MS press conference.
There was also a lot of FUD going around about the PS4 having the same DRM. That's what the Sony press conference, together with that silly and actually unnecessary video, responded to. Not just the MS press conference.
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ethomaz
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Nope.
The video was recorded two days before the E3 presentation when they were doing the rehearsal of presentation.
It was in response of DRM in MS Xbox One reveal in early May... a month before E3.
The video only exists because a lot of fake rumors about PS4 having the same DRM features.
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gamechanger87
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Old post. Not worth covering.
Interested to see PS5 software emulation and licensing prowess
Interested to see PS5 software emulation and licensing prowess
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FranXico
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That speech happened at E3, long after the reveal and that the Xbox One DRM was known. You call that quick?
StreetsofBeige
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Wasn't there supposed to be a Feb 27 info leak? So what was it?
Wtf did I just read?!
hemo memo
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You play your competitor weakness but Microsoft is being quiet. If I’m in charge of Xbox twitter social media team I would let them post this every time someone mention the PS5
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Sosokrates
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From my understanding the compute unit works with the RT hardware, so it's not separate. However I'm not an engineer, I just know what I read on the article.
it was nothing.
FranXico
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LOL. A practical joke from Reee. People should know better than believing random pastebins.
hemo memo
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Yeah this is my reaction following insiders/rumors in this thread. I think your IQ drop by 1 with every post.
siekro1983
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Honestly starting to think sony is pulling a nintendo, seems like they are too embarrassed to reveal the specs.
PocoJoe
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Funny how so many at here think that huge companies are like kids at playground
"my dad can lift 100kg!"
"m-m-my dad can lift 200kg!!"
"no..no mine can lift 2000kg!!!"
it would be silly to assume that company would instantly spam their spec sheet out after one releases their, it's not a valid reason to assume that ps5 is weak when Sony doesnt show their cards.
They are clear winner of this gen and they have no hurry, also by waiting they can control the hype and even add (software) features if they are ready sooner than they thought
"my dad can lift 100kg!"
"m-m-my dad can lift 200kg!!"
"no..no mine can lift 2000kg!!!"
it would be silly to assume that company would instantly spam their spec sheet out after one releases their, it's not a valid reason to assume that ps5 is weak when Sony doesnt show their cards.
They are clear winner of this gen and they have no hurry, also by waiting they can control the hype and even add (software) features if they are ready sooner than they thought
Koopatrol
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It's like people keep forgetting that the PS4 still has top software coming out this year, and they have to plan around that accordingly. Meanwhile Xbox is more than ready to move onto next gen.
Both companies are playing to their strengths at the moment: I'm definitely excited for the upcoming PS4 software this year and PS5, and the Xbox Series X looks enticing as hell.
siekro1983
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Actually companies do act like that. nintendo hides the specs of there consoles because of how weak it is, Microsoft started hiding console sales because it's being demolished by ps4. Companies do not like bad PR. I think Microsoft pretty much knows ps5 will be less powerful so they flat showed all the cards, while imo sony know's its much weaker. lets also not forget when sega saturn announced 399$ and sony right after announced 299$ on the same stage.
Imtjnotu
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DJ12
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I want to know what 5a, 5c and 5d are.
For ms maybe, they over power at the beginning with the pc based devkits they usually send out and then as the console design gets closer they put the console hardware in which is usually on par with retail, maybe a bit more powerful.
Sony tend to low ball from the start and build to retail power with more memory
Maybe they don't care at the moment due to the ongoing crisis in the world. You can take the silence as confirmation if you like but the opposite is likely true given ms are in a rush to release info and still cannot say it's the most powerful console ever made.
However sony have said this in a job posting, which was altered a day or so later.
Ms will know by now if they are stronger or not. If we are getting info they will be getting a lot more for sure.
OsirisBlack
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Japan shut down their ENTIRE school system due to CODIV-19 and not just for a few days.
www.bbc.com
Parents in Japan and Hong Kong struggle as schools shut
Hong Kong and Japan have shut schools as the coronavirus spread worsens leaving parents stuck at home.
www.bbc.com
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Zoro7
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Microsoft showed all the cards because they took a big battering the last 7 years. This is their way of getting a few minutes of fame before Sony comes in.
And yes it is possible the PS5 might be weaker but I seriously dont think this will have an impact unless the difference is substantial. Which I can guarantee it wont be.
MARTYWOLF
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MS should focus on beating xbox one sales performance first, while making good games if they dont put all the devs they have bought to use some people are gonna be mad aha
hemo memo
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Nah it’s a fair assumption because we have seen it time and time again in this industry. If the company is too quiet then high chance they’re screwing up something.
siekro1983
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The github leaks are 90% confirmed at this point. all the insiders have been wrong so far. ps5 will most likely be 9.2 teraflops.
wowbaggerBR
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Confirmed by who?
hemo memo
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Japan shut down their ENTIRE school system due to CODIV-19 and not just for a few days.
Parents in Japan and Hong Kong struggle as schools shut
Hong Kong and Japan have shut schools as the coronavirus spread worsens leaving parents stuck at home.
Japan Shocks Parents by Moving to Close All Schools Over Coronavirus
siekro1983
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they have been confirmed to be legit by DF, while they are not final the most likely scenario is they will be. so far X series specs matched perfectly of what was shown in the leak.
DForce
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Literally shaking my head reading this post.
M.Night Shyamalan
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In Sony's situation, their DS5 is quite advanced. Their updating patents for it a lot the last couple weeks. They wont unveil PS5 without speaking about DS5 and showing it (even if they dont show console box), just yesterday there were patents for DS5 wireless charging with mat or adapter (no cables), this silence is planned.
Shmunter
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Zoro7
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If you’re going to say this then please provide sources if not then stop spouting this nonsense.
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