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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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xCould, GamePass, no next-gen exclusives, and smart delivery might result into more mediocre games as a final results. Won't even throw a penny to bet on Xbox getting GOTY next gen.

Nah. For starters people've been misinterpreting that comment from Booty (lol), as it was mentioned at E3 '19 and also effective for that year. So the two-year period most likely covers 2019 and 2020 which, yeah, would also include the launch window. Though, with the way MS's been doing things of late, they might've been misdirecting with that statement to try surprising people later on in the year.

Aside from that there's already a few upcoming games on MS front I'm interested in. Ori, Flight Simulator, Forza 8, Project: Mara and Halo Infinite are the chief ones. Even if most of those are going to have availability on other platforms, I honestly have zero interest playing them on a current-gen Xbox and the next PC I get is mainly for productivity purposes and light gaming when there's downtime for that. If I really want to play those games, I'm getting an XSX to play them, for the convenience factor and features that'll be there.

On PS5 side, there's not a lot we've even seen with software. Rumors, sure, but nothing concrete outside of Godfall which looks like it could be fun. Demon's Souls Remastered would be pretty big, but it depends on if it's actually happening or not. Everything else is speculation. GT7? Yeah I'd be down for that...whenever it gets confirmed and gets shown. GTA6? It'll be multiplatform. Uncharted 5? We know that's years off from now xD. Same goes for the next God of War, etc. Other stuff I'd expect like Street Fighter, Tekken, Farcry, Resident Evil etc., they'll all be multiplatform. Maybe they get a marketing deal with Sony or a marketing deal with Microsoft, multiplatform all the same.

Also personally, for me while I'm interested in seeing what Sony's studios are cooking up I already know they're going to focus on less 1st party games overall but push them to be bigger in terms of AAA budget. They've already mentioned that years ago. But I'm not the biggest fan of the Hollywood-ish cinematic approach they've been steering headfirst into. Granted, there's obviously tons of people who love it and more power to them, but I miss the variety Sony had back with PS3 in terms of 1st party content, and I miss the focus on less serious stuff with their 1st party content, too. It doesn't mean I dislike the kind of story-focused games Sony is doing these days, but with MS seemingly looking to invest in more of those themselves and having a better balance of other types of 1st party content (imo), plus several next-gen titles already revealed in one form or another and...

...welp, Sony needs to start really showing what they've got coming for next gen if they want me to pick up a PS5 sooner rather than later.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Nah. For starters people've been misinterpreting that comment from Booty (lol), as it was mentioned at E3 '19 and also effective for that year. So the two-year period most likely covers 2019 and 2020 which, yeah, would also include the launch window. Though, with the way MS's been doing things of late, they might've been misdirecting with that statement to try surprising people later on in the year.

Aside from that there's already a few upcoming games on MS front I'm interested in. Ori, Flight Simulator, Forza 8, Project: Mara and Halo Infinite are the chief ones. Even if most of those are going to have availability on other platforms, I honestly have zero interest playing them on a current-gen Xbox and the next PC I get is mainly for productivity purposes and light gaming when there's downtime for that. If I really want to play those games, I'm getting an XSX to play them, for the convenience factor and features that'll be there.

On PS5 side, there's not a lot we've even seen with software. Rumors, sure, but nothing concrete outside of Godfall which looks like it could be fun. Demon's Souls Remastered would be pretty big, but it depends on if it's actually happening or not. Everything else is speculation. GT7? Yeah I'd be down for that...whenever it gets confirmed and gets shown. GTA6? It'll be multiplatform. Uncharted 5? We know that's years off from now xD. Same goes for the next God of War, etc. Other stuff I'd expect like Street Fighter, Tekken, Farcry, Resident Evil etc., they'll all be multiplatform. Maybe they get a marketing deal with Sony or a marketing deal with Microsoft, multiplatform all the same.

Also personally, for me while I'm interested in seeing what Sony's studios are cooking up I already know they're going to focus on less 1st party games overall but push them to be bigger in terms of AAA budget. They've already mentioned that years ago. But I'm not the biggest fan of the Hollywood-ish cinematic approach they've been steering headfirst into. Granted, there's obviously tons of people who love it and more power to them, but I miss the variety Sony had back with PS3 in terms of 1st party content, and I miss the focus on less serious stuff with their 1st party content, too. It doesn't mean I dislike the kind of story-focused games Sony is doing these days, but with MS seemingly looking to invest in more of those themselves and having a better balance of other types of 1st party content (imo), plus several next-gen titles already revealed in one form or another and...

...welp, Sony needs to start really showing what they've got coming for next gen if they want me to pick up a PS5 sooner rather than later.

Let's not forget what's happening this year in current gen, mate. First, Sony has much more respect for current gen to bring 2 major exclusives that would more likely to hit as nominees for 2020 GOTY, and xbox one is left in the dark. What MS doing now is trying to throw some shade on it's horrendous current gen and fast forward to next gen. They've got nothing to lose, at all. With games being available on PC, sales might get worse for next gen, even though Xbox is much cheaper then PC and has much more bang-for-the-buck, there are some who would anyway buy a PC and play on it, and then get PS4 for exclusives.

Sony doesn't need to show anything, they should stick to their plan.
 

SSfox

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Reminder, this works on a 1.84Tf machine.

Again what TF?? 🤣🤣


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Holy fuck i forgot how incredible ULL is.
 
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ethomaz

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Can you explain how, if the controller is already paired to another console?
You can use the own TV to control and pair the new controller with PS4.
Like I said unless you are in the rare case of a TV without HDMI-CEC you should pair a new controller without need an USB cable.
 
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Nah. For starters people've been misinterpreting that comment from Booty (lol), as it was mentioned at E3 '19 and also effective for that year. So the two-year period most likely covers 2019 and 2020 which, yeah, would also include the launch window. Though, with the way MS's been doing things of late, they might've been misdirecting with that statement to try surprising people later on in the year.

Aside from that there's already a few upcoming games on MS front I'm interested in. Ori, Flight Simulator, Forza 8, Project: Mara and Halo Infinite are the chief ones. Even if most of those are going to have availability on other platforms, I honestly have zero interest playing them on a current-gen Xbox and the next PC I get is mainly for productivity purposes and light gaming when there's downtime for that. If I really want to play those games, I'm getting an XSX to play them, for the convenience factor and features that'll be there.

On PS5 side, there's not a lot we've even seen with software. Rumors, sure, but nothing concrete outside of Godfall which looks like it could be fun. Demon's Souls Remastered would be pretty big, but it depends on if it's actually happening or not. Everything else is speculation. GT7? Yeah I'd be down for that...whenever it gets confirmed and gets shown. GTA6? It'll be multiplatform. Uncharted 5? We know that's years off from now xD. Same goes for the next God of War, etc. Other stuff I'd expect like Street Fighter, Tekken, Farcry, Resident Evil etc., they'll all be multiplatform. Maybe they get a marketing deal with Sony or a marketing deal with Microsoft, multiplatform all the same.

Also personally, for me while I'm interested in seeing what Sony's studios are cooking up I already know they're going to focus on less 1st party games overall but push them to be bigger in terms of AAA budget. They've already mentioned that years ago. But I'm not the biggest fan of the Hollywood-ish cinematic approach they've been steering headfirst into. Granted, there's obviously tons of people who love it and more power to them, but I miss the variety Sony had back with PS3 in terms of 1st party content, and I miss the focus on less serious stuff with their 1st party content, too. It doesn't mean I dislike the kind of story-focused games Sony is doing these days, but with MS seemingly looking to invest in more of those themselves and having a better balance of other types of 1st party content (imo), plus several next-gen titles already revealed in one form or another and...

...welp, Sony needs to start really showing what they've got coming for next gen if they want me to pick up a PS5 sooner rather than later.
Ratchet on PS5 seems will be a thing, as one who followed the series since the original and played most of them, I hope we get something good. The peak was 10 years ago with ACIT to me.
 

Disco_

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16K will be like asking for 240fps today. 8K will stick around for awhile.
Yup. I remember when 4k was just rolling out, major TV networks were public about 4k just being a stopgap resolution. Iirc they held onto their old equipment and moved on to 8k equipment when time came. It's not a coincidence that HDR has a bigger impact on visuals when moving from 1080 rather than 4k itself.
 

ethomaz

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I love how this is posed as a "gotcha" post but shows how somebody doesn't understand the benefits of rebooting a pc.

What an idiot.
There is basically no beneficie in cold boot a PC.

My work machine works without reboot for months unless there is some big update that require reboot and that is warm boot.

I don’t remember the last time I did a cold boot.
 

01011001

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It clearly knows what it is 😁. USB slot on your TV?

I have a USB flash drive in that one for recording and playback.

the issue is the combination of A: it doesn't charge the controller when off and B: you need a USB cable in order to sync your controller... and since I regularly use my main controller (a modified Uncharted Edition Blue controller with Xbox One Elite Controller analog sticks) on 2 PS4 systems I basically have to have a USB cable plugged in to both PS4 systems at all times if I don't want to search for one every time I want to play and my controller is not connected to the right PS4.

honestly a Sync button would be enough for me to ignore this charging issue, because then I wouldn't need to have USB cables plugged in at all times, but even then it would be nice if I ever wanted to charge multiple controllers without the need for multiple USB chargers.

and I don't think it knows what it is, as I linked on the previous pages the PS4 draws 6.3 watts alone to keep the USB ports active in rest mode, that has to have a reason when the Xbox One only draws 0.3 watts to do the exact same thing.
I think the DualShock 4 simply doesn't recognize a USB port as powered if it isn't detecting a set minimum transfer rate or something ?!?!?
 
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Bo_Hazem

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We replaced every plug in our house a few years back with sockets that have built in usb fast charge. Was expensive, but we no longer have to run around trying to find adapters.

We also installed wireless charging pads in most rooms so we can just toss shit down and not care so much.

My wife’s phone battery is STILL always flat mind You... maybe she posts more than I do in this bloody thread?

She might need to quit using iPhones :messenger_winking_tongue: You should minimize wireless things for your own health, especially out of use times or when sleeping. Especially for pregnancy and infants. Be safe!
 
Yup. I remember when 4k was just rolling out, major TV networks were public about 4k just being a stopgap resolution. Iirc they held onto their old equipment and moved on to 8k equipment when time came. It's not a coincidence that HDR has a bigger impact on visuals when moving from 1080 rather than 4k itself.
The ideal distance from the tv gets halved from 1080 to 4K, at 8K if you don't have a big ass device you gonna sleep directly on the screen.
 
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DJ12

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Ratchet on PS5 seems will be a thing, as one who followed the series since the original and played most of them, I hope we get something good. The peak was 10 years ago with ACIT to me.
Will be a thing of beauty for sure. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting Naughty Dog to return to Jax and Daxter too, at least for one big cartoon style blow out next gen.
 
Will be a thing of beauty for sure. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting Naughty Dog to return to Jax and Daxter too, at least for one big cartoon style blow out next gen.
Man, ACIT looks still great, with also tons of particles and enemies on screen, also 60 fps... and it got some of the biggest levels in the series. What a marvel...
 

Bo_Hazem

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Yup. I remember when 4k was just rolling out, major TV networks were public about 4k just being a stopgap resolution. Iirc they held onto their old equipment and moved on to 8k equipment when time came. It's not a coincidence that HDR has a bigger impact on visuals when moving from 1080 rather than 4k itself.

I would say 1080p for TV content is still good. But man, I was shocked when I first noticed an 8K match footage on Samsung Q900R 75" from like 15+ meters away and how insanely clean you can feel that from even far away. It's more like a luxury, not a necessity. 1080p has survived for so long already, time to move on from there.
 

Bo_Hazem

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There is basically no beneficie in cold boot a PC.

My work machine works without reboot for months unless there is some big update that require reboot and that is warm boot.

I don’t remember the last time I did a cold boot.

I usually use a PC for like 7-9 years, would it perform good at later years? I doubt it. My PC from 2010 is still working good, although I don't use it as I built a new one last year. Always shut it down when finished, several times a day sometimes.
 

demigod

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Yup. I remember when 4k was just rolling out, major TV networks were public about 4k just being a stopgap resolution. Iirc they held onto their old equipment and moved on to 8k equipment when time came. It's not a coincidence that HDR has a bigger impact on visuals when moving from 1080 rather than 4k itself.

Never buy new format TVs. I have not experienced HDR yet. My 4k Sony Bravia model doesn't have HDR. The model one year later didn't have HDR either but it was able to with a firmware upgrade(chip was there but not active). Might have to get a cheap one this holiday for HDR.
 

ethomaz

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I usually use a PC for like 7-9 years, would it perform good at later years? I doubt it. My PC from 2010 is still working good, although I don't use it as I built a new one last year. Always shut it down when finished, several times a day sometimes.
That is a bad habit created but Windows OS with two many bugs in the past... blue screen = reboot, something is not working right = reboot.

Actually OS were made to not reboot at all... in production environment you just don’t reboot machines unless it is critical because the reboot (cold or warm) can fuck up your machine hardware and/or software.

Of course in consumer products it is not a big issue so you can reboot every time and if something happens you send it to fix.
It is not a big deal.

I will give you an example:

1) My work machine is running 24x7 without any issue... I use every day with maybe some weekend exceptions... I just reboot when required and cold boot is rare very rare.

2) My personal machine I use pretty little so I let it turned off so every time I will use it I have a cold boot... well since the last cold boot something happened with the battery circuit so the machine can’t use the battery anymore and the AC can’t charger the battery... it is still shows 41% of battery in good use but if you remove the AC it turn off.

It is my case but a cold boot in any device more damage than help... a lot of home electronics get damaged due having cold boot all the time.

BTW anybody interested that is my issue with my personal machine: https://www.dell.com/community/Insp...Battery-Can-t-Turn-The-System-On/td-p/7499392
 
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PaintTinJr

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I usually use a PC for like 7-9 years, would it perform good at later years? I doubt it. My PC from 2010 is still working good, although I don't use it as I built a new one last year. Always shut it down when finished, several times a day sometimes.
Unless you are selecting restart - and then turning off by soft switch/psu/wall switch when the bios hits - your pc isn't getting a cold boot, as it is reloading the last state from disk. The acid test being if you can boot a linux live disc will tell you if the system state is truly a cold boot. :)
 

KAL2006

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My prediction of Sony event

A pre recorded video sometime next week showing the technical capabilities of PS5

- confirmation of TF
- how many times CPU and GPU is more powerful
- how much faster SSD is
- explanation about instant loading games
- switch between multiple games which have save states
- start games in a mode instantly, for example game invite from friend takes you straight to multiplayer
- announcement of backwards compatibility
- free patches for some PS4 games, Death Stranding PS5 enhanced shown, boost more also for PS4 games (games without patches)
- announce backwards compatible with controllers and PSVR
- cross buy initiative (similar to Smart Delivery)
- explanation of capabilities of PS5 power, with tech demos, SSD affecting game design, what better CPU means etc
- explaining although they will have PS4 games backwards compatible, and future cross buy games, they will make games that are built games exclusive for PS5 to make the most of the power and not be held back and how their games will take gaming to the next level
- Horizon 2 shown, shows extra detailed open world, some fast mount with rocket boost where you travel around detailed open world quickly thanks to SSD, also extra detailed 4K textures and incredible lighting (PS5 only exclusive)


That's right only 1 game shown as they will save most of their game announcements for June. They won't show the console design or the controller. This presentation will be more of a technical overview and a brief glimpse of 1 next gen game which will be Horizon 2. Around the same week we will get Horizon PC revealed which Sony will explain they are releasing it to get people into the series to then get Horizon 2 and a PS5. They will state Horizon 2 will remain exclusive and Horizon 1 is a one time deal, Horizon 2 will be exclusive not to only sell consoles but because it's built around SSD Speed and the power of PS5.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Unless you are selecting restart - and then turning off by soft switch/psu/wall switch when the bios hits - your pc isn't getting a cold boot, as it is reloading the last state from disk. The acid test being if you can boot a linux live disc will tell you if the system state is truly a cold boot. :)

Nope, shut down :) I only do restarts if the system is abusing me with updates to install.
 

MARTYWOLF

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If the PS5 is 9TF I'll simply abandon gaming until the PS6 comes out. I won't have a meltdown. Instead, I'll focus on other interests. However, if the PS5 is at least twelve TF, I'll be happy. If it is at least thirteen TF, I'll be thrilled. If it is fourteen, I'll jump up and down.

So do you love tflops or something what's your opinion on RAM
 

ethomaz

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Maybe not related... maybe related but next week seems busy in the gaming side.

GodFall
NIS
Rockstar
Kojima
 
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RookX22

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I think the majority people buying just the ps5 want it to be as powerful as the sex just because they want multiplats to run well and not be hindered. I know that factored into me not getting a xbox at launch since I mainly wanted to play BF4 the best I could.
 

Bo_Hazem

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I've only rarely used rest mode on PS4 mainly because of the problems I've heard people have had. On the X1X, I used instant on and eventually I got installation stopped message when I tried to install games/updates and eventually got E100 errors. I had to open the thing up and replace the hard drive. Now I use the fully shutdown option in the settings just to be safe. Seems like to be on the safe side you're better off fully shutting down both systems.

I've been using rest mode for years now, mostly to download games or several updates. Unless you live in a hot room with no AC, you shouldn't worry.
 

DJ12

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Wonder how long it will be before we get pics of the latest PS5 kits that look to be nearing final launch form that are hitting more studios as we speak.
as we are still waiting for a single picture of an xbox devkit, maybe quite a while. I imagine patrick the cleaner has now been sacked lol
 

Sinthor

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do you guys really not understand the concept of a sync button? are you for real right now?

okay, what do you guys do when you have a new controller or a friend brings a controller over? what do you do to >>>>SYNC<<<< it to your system? if you press the PS button (Home) all you do is turn on the controller, and that controller then looks for the system it is synced up to. if that console is not the console you currently want to use the controller on IT WILL NOT CONNECT.
All you have to do is connect the controller to the system with a USB cord, then press the PS button. That "synchs" your controller with the console. I've had controllers lose their connection or gotten new controllers and you have to connect them via USB. Then you're all set!
 
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