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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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It's amazing, but Sony can crush Xbox again this generation. PS5 remains unknown, we do not know its shape, nor do we know its specifications, this helps PS5 to maintain the hype. In addition MS has announced the Xbox SX features at the worst possible time, attention is now focused solely on the corona virus. Bad time to announce anything. If Sony presents the PS5 when this earthquake passes a little and also ends up being more powerful than the MS console ...
 
This is the posts that tells the full story, and hey, look for the replies after him in the same page and the pages after, them responding to him solidifies what he said as TRUE, FACTUAL!!


That bad, huh?

@OsirisBlack didn't your dev friend say XSX TF is currently higher than PS5's 12.4 last time you asked him? What does he think now that its officially 12.1TF?

Where it says officially 12.1.?
 

K.N.W.

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Raw/uncompressed speeds aren't constant either...
Pretty sure "thievery" isn't the word you want to use.

They had no issues calling the cooling on the oneX "liquid cooling" and they'll do something similar this time around. Let them, who cares. The blind will eat it up but in the end, it really doesn't matter.
True, raw data transfes have some wasted moments too, but in theory they always stick near the projected figure. Otherwise, with compression, it might vary wildly. But you are right, I'm going too much violently on Microsoft, they just failed to write to something like "up to 4.8" or "from 3 to 4.8", hell, compression might even push more in some cases. I owe an apology to everyone <3





........But......... Liquid cooling, pffffff 😂😂🤣
 
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👀👀🤣😂
 
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Disco_

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Everybody saying 2GHz is way too much and Sony won't be able to proper cool it. But MS managed 1.82GHz. I don't think it's unthinkable if Sony somehow managed to handle 2GHz.

The rumours about fancy cooling only makes it more believable.
And the funny thing is they did it in a tightly packed box, with a mediocre cooling setup.


........But......... Liquid cooling, pffffff 😂😂🤣

It's still on the x1x web page.
 

demigod

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Actually not, Osiris said that he stick to his original prediction of PS5 12.4 vs 12 for XsX, he said that Sony might have achieved their target recently.

This is the post I'm talking about. Somehow I missed the part that the friend didn't have the latest PS5 devkit or I might've just forgotten.

 
I'll never understand the excitement behind these 1990s looking games they've added ray tracing too.

I have a 2070RTX and was told to download the Quake 2 RTX dealio and WTF'd out of it after 5 minutes. Like I get that the tech is neato, but it's still ugly as fuck in that form.
Yea i dont know who thought its a great idea to showcase a 12 tf console with that 😂
 

Disco_

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their key racer GT gets killed by Forza Motorsport every year,
Forza 7 was an embarrassment for anyone interested in online racing. Good thing I loved the SP aspect.

So your just ganna ignore the wrong clock frequency? 👀Lol
The frequency was ram frequency IIRC , which github pushers denied. Now however, I can see them saying that's what it was or claiming ms lowered clocks cause they had extra CUs.
 

PSbigfan

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How do people reconcile all the reports of Sony's BOM being less than MS's if the PS5 is supposed to be more powerful?

I want them to be roughly the same myself and will be happy if PS5 is within ~1 TF either direction, but don't quite understand how they'd do that and be 10% or more cheaper on BOM.
That very easy man
Playstation has bigger share market.
PS4 +100m units vs xbone <50m units
So Sony get the better deal and price .
 

thelastword

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Everything makes sense know
Castlevania exclusive on PS5 🤔
Or I'm crazy 😅.

So a new Castlevania By Bluepoint? That would be crazy....I can see it now a remake of SOTN in 3D......Or Lament of Innocence, Lords of Shadow 1+2...Hmmmmm….

I mean Microsoft showed the logo last year. They showed the console and now showed the specifications and they’ll show the games after. Sony still at the logo stage.
Sony is still not perturbed, maybe they will show us the PS5's intro bootup and easily score 1 billion views...….The proof is in the interest and hunger people have for the PS5.....

I see two numbers are possible for PS5 now, the raw 13.3TF Tommy said and if Sony's cooling solution is as good as is rumored, then they would have been able to push the PS5 to 15.05TF from 13.3TF (Tommy Still Wins)...I think I've always been an advocate for 32GB of Vram, we all know by now that Sony's memory and Storage will be faster as well as their RT solution...…...If they go 13.3TF, Id's say they will have 24GB of Vram, if they go 15.05TF, I'll say they will have 32GB....

BRING THE FISH BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.


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This is "training day I know", but Tommy is actually Denzel Washington......So I met Denzel aka Tommy Fisher on GAF... and he said to me......You saw the movie Training Day? I said, of course Denzel...…..He said it's like "Deja-Vu" all these leakers on GAF are telling me "they are professionals"....laughingdenzel.gif.....

Fanboys will act like its a big deal, but a 9% better gpu on ps5 will be a bit lackluster after all this time.

Im mean come on sony you waited all this time just to show a 9% better GPU.... Would be a bit of an anti climax.
From a 9.2TF to a 13.3TF and it's still laclkustre……..I'm seeing many people are already engaging in the defense strategy.....When Christiano Ronaldo kicks the ball, move the goal post in the other direction....It's the only way to prevent him form winning the ballon d'or…...
Cool, looks slightly different to me, fatter handles.....In any case, could it be that the final design is not available yet.....Also I think DS4's can be used easily with a PS5/dev kit, they are compatible…….Is that reason enough to think there was foul play there? I believe in Tommy on this as well.....

At this point Sony should just tweet number 13 lol, everyone and their mother will know what the tweet means
How about 15.05?.....it would have more effect.....I can imagine many people getting a sudden rush of diarrhea from such an announcement.....Serve match game..
 

ZywyPL

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Lets say PS5 really is somewhere between 11.6-13.3, does that throw a wrench in microsofts lock heart plan? Ps5 is no longer sandwhiched between the 2 but is closer to upper end model, wouldnt that make lock heart redundant at that point?

PS5 being close to XBX won't make people any more rich. If both consoles actually end up being 499 people who can't afford them simply won't buy them. But if there will be a 3rd option, like a 299-349 there is a chance they might be able to get it. I seriously think now that Sony's best bet would be 399-449 regardless if there will be Lockhart or not.
 
On their website

I see here 12 :


"Next Generation Custom Processor: Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD’s latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance"

And this one :

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AGRacing

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Honestly this DF presentation was damn impressive. The box is obviously a beast. Looking forward to finding out more about the RT implementation....

But how Xbox supports their BC library is well beyond expectations. I mean adding HDR to BC games !? Gears 5 on ultra 4K 60 with just a little work? 4X resolution on original Xbox One titles?

I really want to hear something comparable from Sony on this.
 

Mriverz

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Ya the news looks good for xbox. Kinda dropped in a lack luster way though. Damn corona. Now that xbox has all their main cards on the table Sony needs to hurry up -,-
 

Mriverz

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I see here 12 :


True, see if some1 can do the cu math and find the correct tf.
 

demigod

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PS5 being close to XBX won't make people any more rich. If both consoles actually end up being 499 people who can't afford them simply won't buy them. But if there will be a 3rd option, like a 299-349 there is a chance they might be able to get it. I seriously think now that Sony's best bet would be 399-449 regardless if there will be Lockhart or not.

Actually it does. I'll be $500 bones richer.
 

StreetsofBeige

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I see two numbers are possible for PS5 now, the raw 13.3TF Tommy said and if Sony's cooling solution is as good as is rumored, then they would have been able to push the PS5 to 15.05TF from 13.3TF (Tommy Still Wins)...I think I've always been an advocate for 32GB of Vram, we all know by now that Sony's memory and Storage will be faster as well as their RT solution...…...If they go 13.3TF, Id's say they will have 24GB of Vram, if they go 15.05TF, I'll say they will have 32GB....match game..
Possible.

At about $800.
 

semicool

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Neiher nVidia did spin ray-tracing like that lol
Apparently unaware of their "Tensor Cores" marketing and tech spec talks on that.


 
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Lort

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Everytime MS does something the forums posters are like oh no they don’t thats bs .. it isn’t really 12 tf RDNA etc .. then MS confirms it .. then forums are like oh no they are lying .. then MS gives full locked specs .. and the narrative become oh well whatever MS delivers Sony is that + 1.

It is kinda hilarious.
 

Hatsuma

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I'll admit that the only thing about that DS5 Pic which did not sit right is that MOW showed it . MOW does not share private information and he would not ask us if we think that something was real or not . So I am not entirely convinced that this was not a "Controlled" leak to get him banned without self banning.

Funny enough, I mentioned that idea with one of my previous posts. Like I said either Moriarty, Reiner, Klee, Matt, Osiris, even Tommy are all lying, giving y'all control leaks, being fed control leaks, or just have wrong information. Odium and Heisenberg are the primary guys who have given X the edge. However, they were adamant that the systems were close. And idea that's so many in this topic were against.

With this today, tommy has been validated on his Xbox series X information. I'm still skeptical on the PS5 information, it sounds too good to be true, but it definitely gives more validity to his previous statements.

I hope he returns
 

Gamernyc78

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I know
All my info is second hand and there is chances of something being wrong. Because I can not Verify everything myself in person.

Perhaps Tommy Fisher Tommy Fisher was given bad info with the controller pic and wasn’t intentionally trying to lie to fool you @Mod of War ot the forum. It could have been an honest mistake.

Also wasn’t there a rumor early PS5 Dev kits having controllers that look like DS4 but had DS5 features built in? Could that be what the pic was?

Bro he purposely sabatoged tht photoshop lol a blind person could have seen tht was fake.
 

DForce

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Everytime MS does something the forums posters are like oh no they don’t thats bs .. it isn’t really 12 tf RDNA etc .. then MS confirms it .. then forums are like oh no they are lying .. then MS gives full locked specs .. and the narrative become oh well whatever MS delivers Sony is that + 1.

It is kinda hilarious.
You're trying to paint a false narrative. People are going based off rumors and are trying to pinpoint where both consoles would end up.
 

Roronoa Zoro

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I get that people arent going out but isn't all this Xbox stuff being overshadowed and barely thought about considering how Corona is dominating mindshare rn?
 
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