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[VGT] Resident Evil Village DEMO: PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yep so close, about 10% better performance to Xbox on this As per DF findings. Cmon Sony push that vrr update and you are laughing.
Yea XSX gets the win
MasterCornholio
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
They are basically so close it’s hard to really applaud this “win” if the Gen is like this it will be pretty awesome for everyone.
but yes, Xbox ”wins” if we have to label one.
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MasterCornholio
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Neither one has a major bragging point in my opinion. It's not like either system is making the other look like junk. Although they really should fix the XSS RT mode.
Mr Moose
Member
One dropped more frames, though they don't quite add up, 23772 + 1096 isn't 24871Not great performance in RT mode from any console, strange that they measured different amout of game frames between the two. Probably because of the loading screen on Series vs no loading screen on PS5
skit_data
Member
I’d say Hitman 3 was a win
But this one is like ”yeah i guess, but at stress points performance is not great on any one of them”, which means XSX wins right now by offering VRR.
Some were going on about that an unlocked framerate would prove XSX running way above PS5 in general and looking at the stats I’d say
”Naaah, both seem pretty stressed to me atm”. It would probably run higher, but there is not much headroom left on XSX either.
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Mr Moose
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MasterCornholio
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Holy crap did he fake it?
Mr Moose
Member
Faked or used old software that's inaccurate.
I say so close it is a tie with in the margin of error unless you have a VRR tv then a win for the series x. I still don't get how Sony has not gotten that supported it is baked in forever in AMD hardware so the software side should of been trivial. They knew about it from the one x ffs.
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MasterCornholio
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He messed up pretty badly with Skyrim not to mention he practically stole some info from Digital Foundry and didn't give them any credit for it.
skit_data
Member
At best he’s incompetent, at worst he’s doing it intentionally. I’ve seen enough inaccuracies that paints the PS5 in a bad light to suggest it’s the latter.
Mr Moose
Member
Yeah, I knew this wasn't correct because the graph shows screen tearing, there isn't tearing in Resi Evil 8.
Sealord of Braavos
Member
XSX with VRR is the best RE:Villiage experience. PS5 hardly a disaster even without VRR. If you have a XSS just turn of the RT.
Happy gaming everyone.
Happy gaming everyone.
Md Ray
Member
I was just gonna do this. Good work exposing him.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
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You can't find a cheaper device that supports raytracing period. The fact you can get that in a $300 box is impressive no matter what detractors say. If Capcom dropped the resolution to 1080p and capped framerate at 30 there would be no issue.
MasterCornholio
Member
Screen tearing should be visible in his analysis then. But I haven't seen anything which leads me to believe it's either really bad software or he manipulated the numbers.
MasterCornholio
Member
Doesn't mean it's performance is acceptable though which is what XSS owners need to know when they turn on RT.
Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it should be that unstable. It's a fair thing to criticize in this comparison.
Edit: You mentioned the value of the XSS. This comparison only makes the PS5 DE value look even better. For 100$ more you get double the framerate worn RT at a much higher resolution. That's pretty impressive for a 399$ box in my opinion.
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Mr Moose
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Md Ray
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It's a shame Capcom hasn't implemented this checkerboard solution on PC yet. We've been seeing this CB implementation on PS4/XB1 since RE7.
dcmk7
Banned
I mean it's a HD gaming console in 2021 that developers don't particularly like.. And now you're recommending should be capped to 30fps for a cross-gen game?? What part of that is impressive for $300?
Let's not kid ourselves, PS5DE is by far better value for money for actual next-gen gaming. More bells and whistles.
MasterCornholio
Member
If only Sony produced more PS5 DE. It really is the best value out of the three in my opinion.
Yet I'll get my nefew a Series s because of game pass. I know his parents won't buy him games. So I get him a few gamepass cards and he is good for the year. I gave him my one x for Christmas and gamepass he loves it.
The "interlaced" option is apparently the CB option, but it looks extremely crappy at lower resolutions compared to the console versions so I'm not too sure about that?
MasterCornholio
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I know it looks really bad on the X1S. I really haven't seen screens of the game on the XSS so I'm not sure if it looks bad there.
Md Ray
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No. Checkerboard and interlaced are two very different techniques but yeah the idea behind them is the same - to reduce the burden on the GPU at higher resolutions.
yamaci17
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They should be the same technique in this game. Only the wording is different, probably.
If they're not, then that's indecent to force PC players to play with a worse technique. It almost seems like developers will use exquisite techs to improve image quality for consoles but will always let PC players left in the dust. That's weird
yamaci17
Member
So 960x1080?
It looked very bad on PC. You can't simply use checkerboarding at sucha low resolution.
Riky
$MSFT
I haven't hooked up my X1S to try that version as it barely seems worthwhile but I've tried Xbox One X and Series S and the Series S clearly looks better at the locked 60fps modes, image quality is better on Series S and load times are 3-4 seconds whilst they seem like 30 seconds plus on One X.
Md Ray
Member
I've been seeing this exact same "interlaced" method in the PC ports since RE7, and they're not the same. I tried 4K interlaced on my PC in RE8 and it looked terrible in comparison to the console's use of CB 4K.
Yeah, I feel like they couldn't be bothered to implement techniques like this because PC players can brute force higher resolutions with more powerful hardware.
yamaci17
Member
Were they the same screen?I've been seeing this exact same "interlaced" method in the PC ports since RE7, and they're not the same. I tried 4K interlaced on my PC in RE8 and it looked terrible in comparison to the console's use of CB 4K.
Yeah, I feel like they couldn't be bothered to implement techniques like this because PC players can brute force higher resolutions with more powerful hardware.
Md Ray
Member
Yep. I remember NXG mentioning the same during RE2/RE3 PC, console analysis. Interlaced and CB are not the same.
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MasterCornholio
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Isn't the X1X version CB 4K?
Md Ray
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Resolution mode is. Performance mode is straight native 1080p, IIRC.
MasterCornholio
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Ahh ok the last gen systems have a Pef/Res mode. Thank you for that.
Riky
$MSFT
Resolution mode is but you get framerate drops, locked 60fps at 1080p native.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
The instability rests with Capcom not the XSS. As mentioned later with raytracing off you get even better performance. As far as the the PS5 DE I respectfully disagree. My point was getting a higher performing device for LESS money or even equal not more. You can always pay more and get more. If the PS5 DE and XSS were $299 I'd completely agree with you.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
A minority of devs complaining with early dev kits that don't utilize the full features of the device isn't news worthy. The 30 fps cap is with raytracing enabled without it we are already seeing 60 fps performance. You probably don't know this but raytracing is expensive performance wise. Compromises have to be made to enable it. If you say the PS5 DE at $299 is a better deal than the XSS at $299 I agree with you.
MasterCornholio
Member
You get a heck of a lot more for only 100$ extra. It's why value can change at different price levels. You certainly don't get such a large upgrade in performance at 100$ extra with the XSX.
Value could be just perception but I think the best value system is the PS5 DE even though it isn't the cheapest one.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Do you though? That $100 difference gives you almost a full year of Game pass which gives you access to ton of... games the thing a console is designed for. On top of that you get a ton of older titles that are enhanced to run at 60 fps and even 120fps. The $100 MORE expensive PS5 DE runs fewer games at 60 fps. I'm having a hard time finding the value in that.
The point about the XSX is funny for two reasons. 1 the XSS has more games that run at 60+fps than the X1X AND it has more games with raytracing than the X1X. 2 the XSS is the upgrade to the X1S not the X1X but despite that it still has way better performance.
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MasterCornholio
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The issue is that you're looking at Gamepass and old games. If you want to play current gen titles then the PS5 DE is the best value due to the performance that it offers.
Nope that's the main issue with Gamepass. Not every single game is available on it. For people buying RE8 they get bad RT performance on the XSS (I know it's the devs fault but it's still the experience you will get) compared to the PS5 DE which offers a good level of performance for only 100$ extra.
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