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Kojima-san possibly working on another PlayStation title

I never said, nor do I think, that Kojima and Sony have had any kind of issues in their relationship.

And I don't stan for the rumored Kojima Xbox game either, everything is heresy and rumor right now. They put out a PS5 game a half a year or so ago, I doubt whatever they're making now is in a presentable state in any form so it might be a while, or we'll get a CG trailer at best this year.

Ok at least we are on the same page.

In regards to future projects and rumors I don’t know it Kojipro is big enough to support multiple projects. So I’m really not confident in Kojima making an Xbox exclusive and something that’s coming out on PlayStation. It’s probably going to be one or the other IMO.
 

yurinka

Member
PS5 dev kit on the right side.
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Considering Sony did help them build the studio, published them the successful, award winning and profitable DS and DSDC, that he also uses Sony tech for video conferences and is doing mocap in a Sony owned studio, and that Sony can help them with the movies/short films/anime/tv shows they want to make, it's fair to assume that they will continue working with Sony in more games, as could be the new Death Stranding that Norman Reedus mentioned. Even if none of these things imply that he's working on another Sony game.

But maybe it's only a devkit they did use for Death Stranding Director's Cut and is still there since then. No need to throw the devkits to the garbage bin or to return them when releasing the game, so they can keep them there without implying they are working on a PS5 game right now.
 
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Considering Sony did help them build the studio, published them the successful, award winning and profitable DS and DSDC, that he also uses Sony tech for video conferences and is doing mocap in a Sony owned studio, and that Sony can help them with the movies/short films/anime/tv shows they want to make, it's fair to assume that they will continue working with Sony in more games, as could be the new Death Stranding that Norman Reedus mentioned. Even if none of these things imply that he's working on another Sony game.

But maybe it's only a devkit they did use for Death Stranding Director's Cut and is still there since then. No need to throw the devkits to the garbage bin or to return them when releasing the game, so they can keep them there without implying they are working on a PS5 game right now.
Can't even be there since then since they changed their office recently. Why set up a dev kit for a console you are not developing for?

>Everybody when it's Death Stranding 2
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It's sadly the most likely outcome. Even as someone who really liked Death Stranding, it really doesn't feel like a game that needs a sequel.
 
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Ok at least we are on the same page.

In regards to future projects and rumors I don’t know it Kojipro is big enough to support multiple projects. So I’m really not confident in Kojima making an Xbox exclusive and something that’s coming out on PlayStation. It’s probably going to be one or the other IMO.

Yeah, they weren’t even big enough to ship Death Stranding on their own, it was co-developed by Sony Xdev. Kojima himself said he’s having trouble hiring for his second project so whatever it is, isnt even in active production right now.

As of now, they are a one game studio and it’s most likely that it’s the Death Stranding sequel. A lot of resources are already in place for Kojima to work with sony, outside of just funding. Talent, Mo Cap, Sony tech, and their direct line with Guerrilla (which they showed in the other pic) is there for them.
 
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Yeah, they weren’t even big enough to ship Death Stranding on their own, it was co-developed by Sony Xdev. Kojima himself said he’s having trouble hiring for his second project so whatever it is, isnt even in active production right now.

As of now, they are a one game studio and it’s most likely that it’s the Death Stranding sequel. A lot of resources are already in place for Kojima to work with sony, outside of just funding. Talent, Mo Cap, Sony tech, and their direct line with Guerrilla (which they showed in the other pic) is there for them.

If I were to compare Kojimas PlayStation related tweets with Jeff Grubbs Xbox exclusive leak. Then take into account that it’s unlikely that he’s working on multiple projects at once due to the size of his studio.

I would come to the conclusion that it’s a higher chance that his next project is playable on PlayStation rather then it being an Xbox exclusive. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a multiplatform title but being exclusive to Xbox isn’t something that I’m seeing teased by Kojima.
 
If I were to compare Kojimas PlayStation related tweets with Jeff Grubbs Xbox exclusive leak. Then take into account that it’s unlikely that he’s working on multiple projects at once due to the size of his studio.

I would come to the conclusion that it’s a higher chance that his next project is playable on PlayStation rather then it being an Xbox exclusive. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a multiplatform title but being exclusive to Xbox isn’t something that I’m seeing teased by Kojima.

Yeah, Kojima hasn’t made an exclusive non-playstation games in decades. It’s either playstation (or PSP) or multiplatform.

Kojima doesn’t even really have a fan base on xbox consoles so it would be a waste
 
Yeah, Kojima hasn’t made an exclusive non-playstation games in decades. It’s either playstation (or PSP) or multiplatform.

Kojima doesn’t even really have a fan base on xbox consoles so it would be a waste

At a minimum I would expect his next title to be available on PlayStation and PC. If it comes to other platforms that would be a nice surprise. However I doubt it’s something that will be available on the Switch due to the massive gulf in performance. Something that won’t be an issue with the Series platform IMO.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh, ok… so just two decades

There's a whole franchise of Baktai games, 4 I believe, and the 3DS exclusive MGS3 'remaster/remake'.

But to a greater point, aside from Death Stranding, he's not really made anything but MGS in the last 2 decades and every game, except MGS4, in that franchise is multi platform now.
 

yurinka

Member
Can't even be there since then since they changed their office recently. Why set up a dev kit for a console you are not developing for?

Devkits cost thousands of dollars, they are left in the office once the game is completed even if not used during years. Sometimes there are devkits of previous generations there. If they moved to a new office, devkits are moved to the new office.

It's sadly the most likely outcome. Even as someone who really liked Death Stranding, it really doesn't feel like a game that needs a sequel.
Call it sequel, prequel or spin-off. But sold very well, got well reviewed, received a ton of awards. So Sony pretty likely offered him another blank check to do whatever he wants: another DS or a new IP.

DS was a personal project he's pretty likely very attached to it, and traditionally there always many ideas that get cut or don't fit in a game and make more sense due to budget and time to put them in a sequel/prequel/etc.
 
There's a whole franchise of Baktai games, 4 I believe, and the 3DS exclusive MGS3 'remaster/remake'.

But to a greater point, aside from Death Stranding, he's not really made anything but MGS in the last 2 decades and every game, except MGS4, in that franchise is multi platform now.
you’re trying too hard

Death Stranding, Metal Gear Solid 4, P.T and Peacewalker are all exclusive. So, like I originally said, in the past couple* decades Kojima hasn’t made an exclusive game outside of playstation.

You can throw Metal Gear Online in there as well.
 
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There's a whole franchise of Baktai games, 4 I believe, and the 3DS exclusive MGS3 'remaster/remake'.

But to a greater point, aside from Death Stranding, he's not really made anything but MGS in the last 2 decades and every game, except MGS4, in that franchise is multi platform now.

It’s a little different now since he’s not working for Konami anymore. We will see what happens.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
you’re trying too hard

Death Stranding, Metal Gear Solid 4, P.T and Peacewalker are all exclusive. So, like I originally said, in the past couple* decades Kojima hasn’t made an exclusive game outside of playstation.

You can throw Metal Gear Online in there as well.

Peacewalker is not exclusive.

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Hell, you can't even play Peace Walker, or MGS 2 and 3 on the latest PlayStation console, only on the latest Xbox one. Make of that what you will.

P.T was just a demo, we have no idea what platforms that game was going to be released on.

Death Stranding is the only true exclusive of that list, aside from MGS4 which is stuck on PS3 hardware.

This isn't trying hard, this is just me making salient points, lol


It’s a little different now since he’s not working for Konami anymore. We will see what happens.

Of course. He can announce something for PS5 tomorrow for all we know, we simply just don't know what he's making right now.
 
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Peacewalker is not exclusive.

Metal-Gear-Solid-Peace-Walker_X360_JPboxart_160w.jpg


Hell, you can't even play Peace Walker, or MGS 2 and 3 on the latest PlayStation console, only on the latest Xbox one. Make of that what you will.

P.T was just a demo, we have no idea what platforms that game was going to be released on.

Death Stranding is the only true exclusive of that list, aside from MGS4 which is stuck on PS3 hardware.

This isn't trying hard, this is just me making salient points, lol




Of course. He can announce something for PS5 tomorrow for all we know, we simply just don't know what he's making right now.

Like i said, kojima has not made a non-playstation exclusive in decades, there is no other point.

P.T, MGS4, and Death Stranding are playstation only games. In fact the only non-playstation exclusive he’s made in the past decade has been MGSV
 
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Peacewalker is not exclusive.

Metal-Gear-Solid-Peace-Walker_X360_JPboxart_160w.jpg


Hell, you can't even play Peace Walker, or MGS 2 and 3 on the latest PlayStation console, only on the latest Xbox one. Make of that what you will.

P.T was just a demo, we have no idea what platforms that game was going to be released on.

Death Stranding is the only true exclusive of that list, aside from MGS4 which is stuck on PS3 hardware.

This isn't trying hard, this is just me making salient points, lol




Of course. He can announce something for PS5 tomorrow for all we know, we simply just don't know what he's making right now.

Well something using Sonys mocap technology if the recent tweets mean anything.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well something using Sonys mocap technology if the recent tweets mean anything.

To be honest, that doesn't mean much.

RE Village was also mo-capped in the Sony Santa Monica studio. I'm sure other multi platform games were too, they probably didn't post about it on their twitters. The SSM mo-cap studio is one of the better facilities that offers that service in that region, I suppose.
 
To be honest, that doesn't mean much.

RE Village was also mo-capped in the Sony Santa Monica studio. I'm sure other multi platform games were too, they probably didn't post about it on their twitters. The SSM mo-cap studio is one of the better facilities that offers that service in that region, I suppose.

Oh no I’m not talking about a multiplatform title. I’m talking about that Xbox exclusive that’s being rumored. I don’t doubt that his next project could be a multiplatform title I’m just doubting that it’s an Xbox exclusive.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh no I’m not talking about a multiplatform title. I’m talking about that Xbox exclusive that’s being rumored. I don’t doubt that his next project could be a multiplatform title I’m just doubting that it’s an Xbox exclusive.

Oh that, considering MS *just* christened a Cloud initiative studio a couple of weeks ago, that MS/Kojima thing, if it's even real, is probably nothing but a paper agreement right now. Not expecting that in the next couple of years at the earliest.
 

Elios83

Member
At this point you have to be blind or delusional to not realize that Kojima is doing something with Sony.
That doesn't rule out other projects of course.

About the game being DS2 I've mixed feelings, it's a game I really liked but it felt really self contained as a story.
Gameplay wise it would be easy to make it more mainstream by adding more fights and shooting and toning down the focus on exploration but in the end the game was divisive and trying to change it's core idea to get more sales gives me the vibes that it would be better to try a new IP altogether.
 
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Oh that, considering MS *just* christened a Cloud initiative studio a couple of weeks ago, that MS/Kojima thing, if it's even real, is probably nothing but a paper agreement right now. Not expecting that in the next couple of years at the earliest.

Definitely not expecting that mocap work to be done for that title. It’s why I keep emphasizing his “next game”. If that Xbox exclusive is getting produced it’s going to be years before we see anything. At least with his next title we will see something a lot sooner.

Edit: On a side note I don’t think Grubb mentioned anything about his next game which I find a little odd since he seems to know something about that other title.
 
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At this point you have to be blind or delusional to not realize that Kojima is doing something with Sony.
That doesn't rule out other projects of course.

About the game being DS2 I've mixed feelings, it's a game I really liked but it felt really self contained as a story.
Gameplay wise it would be easy to make it more mainstream by adding more fights and shooting and toning down the focus on exploration but in the end the game was divisive and trying to change it's core idea to get more sales gives me the vibes that it would be better to try a new IP altogether.

I kinda wish it was the opposite tbh

I would want them to ramp up the exploration and traversal and build on that rather than the combat but i know thats not gonna happen. Too many people criticized the game for being a walking sim
 
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bender

What time is it?
Peace Walker is originally a Sony exclusive released on Vita. It was only once the MGS collection "where PW was in" releases much later on PS360 that it became a multi game.

Secretly the best MGS game and laid a lot of the groundwork for MGS5's fantastic sandbox.
 

Dolodolo

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To be honest, that doesn't mean much.

RE Village was also mo-capped in the Sony Santa Monica studio. I'm sure other multi platform games were too, they probably didn't post about it on their twitters. The SSM mo-cap studio is one of the better facilities that offers that service in that region, I suppose.
Who will give Kojima money other than Sony?

And how is he going to use Decima to make a multi-platform game without Sony's permission?

Not sure if the guy is going to switch to Unreal Engine
 

SSfox

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Secretly the best MGS game and laid a lot of the groundwork for MGS5's fantastic sandbox.
One of my favorite, and it could have been named as canon and would have been more than fine.

BTW of course i meant PSP no Vita (i edited)
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Who will give Kojima money other than Sony?

I mean, any publisher who wants to publish a game with them :p

Doesn't necessarily have to be a console manufacturer. Could be someone like Activision, Ubisoft, EA etc.

And how is he going to use Decima to make a multi-platform game without Sony's permission?

Not sure if the guy is going to switch to Unreal Engine

A lot of Japanese developers are switching to UE5, wouldn't really be a surprising thing at all.


Peace Walker is originally a Sony exclusive released on PSP. It was only once the MGS collection "where PW was in" releases much later on PS360 that it became a multi game.


Yes, you're right, but it is a multi platform game now.
 
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assurdum

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Honestly, after finished DS, I totally lost any faith on Kojima. I save the story (the only reason who push me to end it) but the gameplay formula is totally forgettable and full of contradictions. I mean, he blame the people who dislike it because hearing him most of the gamers just want a shooter and meanwhile he put guns and the only way to beat the enemies bosses it's shot to them. Not seems exactly clear what he wanted to do with this game.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Honestly, after finished DS, I totally lost any faith on Kojima. I save the story (the only reason who push me to end it) but the gameplay formula is totally forgettable and full of contradictions. I mean, he blame the people who dislike it because it's not a shooter and meanwhile there are guns and the only way to beat the enemies bosses it's to shot to them. I really don't get him.

Death Stranding is the prettiest, highest budget, walking simulator I've played so far.

It's a novel game, but far from his best work.
 
Just announce the game already and put an end to the stupid xbox game rumours. It could be a multiplatform game. I just can't see kojima making a new game that isn't available on PS at all. It doesn't matter how much money Microsoft offer, i highly doubt it'll happen. Has he ever made a game that didn't release on PS?

Theres a reason why jeff grubb is the only source. Why has no one else heard about it? The rumour itself is weak as hell. "Letter of intent" doesn't mean anything.
 
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Just announce the game already and put an end to the stupid xbox game rumours. It could be a multiplatform game. Kojima ain't making a new game that isn't available on PS at all. It doesn't matter how much money Microsoft offer, it aint gonna happen. Theres a reason why jeff grubb is the only source. Why has no one else heard about it? The rumour itself is weak as hell. "Letter of intent" doesn't mean anything.
A lot of rumors and bs are gonna be put to bed by the next big sony game showcase, whenever that is

Kojima making a game on Xbox is just some weird console warrior wish to “take” a playstation guy away. A Kojima game not on playstation is a recipe for disaster, just like a lot of japanese games.
 
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Just announce the game already and put an end to the stupid xbox game rumours. It could be a multiplatform game. Kojima ain't making a new game that isn't available on PS at all. It doesn't matter how much money Microsoft offer, it aint gonna happen. Theres a reason why jeff grubb is the only source. Why has no one else heard about it? The rumour itself is weak as hell. "Letter of intent" doesn't mean anything.

Makes me wonder why people like Brad Sams or Jez Cordon haven’t heard anything yet.
 
Makes me wonder why people like Brad Sams or Jez Cordon haven’t heard anything yet.

I would be more inclined to believe it if there were a few more sources but just jeff grubb? Its suspect. Now we get all these images that make it plainly obvious his next game will be on PlayStation atleast. I could see it maybe being multiplatform but I just can't see a xbox exclusive from kojima. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
I would be more inclined to believe it if there were a few more sources but just jeff grubb? Its suspect. Now we get all these images that make it plainly obvious his next game will be on PlayStation atleast. I could see it maybe being multiplatform but I just can't see a xbox exclusive from kojima. We'll just have to wait and see.

I mean it could happen but I don’t see any signs from Kojima pointing to that. As for Grubb he’s just one dude who said he heard that. Not sure why anyone else didn’t hear the same or similar.
 
i think grubb was just trying to drum up some excitement last year. They have gone an entire year and he’s written 2-3 articles on the idea that kojima has “talked” with microsoft and the “intent” is there. Theres like 50 more steps between that and a game being greenlit and entertains pre production which it isn’t, considering his last article.

You know how many devs probably have similar arrangements that never amount to anything? I think Kojima is doing his Death Stranding sequel and a VR game
 
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Draugoth

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Tweeted by Kojima, the image shows what is presumably Kojima Production’s new home. In the background, it is possible to see what is clearly a PlayStation 5 development kit.

While it could be a holdover from Death Stranding, it appears to be connected up, implying it’s currently in development use.



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Dick Jones

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Even Fatt Slobb cannot deny that one of the 2 reported projects is on PS5. This isn't news.

Also Death Stranding was re-released on PS5. Dev Kits aren't returned.
 

sainraja

Member
I mean, why would they disconnect a dev kit? Is it common for game studios to disconnect/reconnect dev kits over and over? Wouldn't they just leave it connected, even if it is not being actively used?
I know they just moved there but when you are setting up a new place, you will want to connect things you have been using.
 

SF Kosmo

Banned
I mean, why would they disconnect a dev kit? Is it common for game studios to disconnect/reconnect dev kits over and over? Wouldn't they just leave it connected, even if it is not being actively used?
I know they just moved there but when you are setting up a new place, you will want to connect things you have been using.
I think they're saying they moved to a new office location so everything would have to be deliberately reconnected.
 
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