Not everyone can afford the price of a high end PC
I understand that. And we got a lot of warnings from
HeisenbergFX4
that it would be more about ray tracing than a monster console that will be a PS6 coming early. But I am still hyped.
I think you guys don't get how framerate caps work and grossly understate what a 20-30% clock boost along with more CPU cache can do for a CPU and the games it runs.
I think features like that would come by default eventually. At some point, building a CPU any other way would just be inefficient and wasteful.
I couldn't agree more.
You didn't even need a high end PC to out do the PS4 or the PS4 Pro.
Silly point. You didn't need a PS Pro to play Bloodborne nor did it have a PS4 Pro patch from what I remember and so many seemed happy with it.
People want to play Battlefield now? I have a more than decent PC, but I don't like gaming on the PC and since the Master System has been all consoles. I got the reason and need for the PS4 Pro and One X. I'm just not seeing the case for the PS5 Pro or Series Pro (which I sure will follow despite what MS may say)
Same with my son who makes great money but has no desire to mess with a PC
PS6 is not coming out until 2028.
Agreed but I feel very strongly we will get the next generation Xbox much sooner, that could very well be in 2 years
So Sony with PS5 released a GPU with new tech that was new to AMD GPUs. The PS5 had new tech not present in RDNA1, the RDNA2 hardware RT tech.
Read again his comment, he says two years AFTER PS5 Pro, so three years from now which will be 2026. I personally think it will release in 2027, seeing that their past consoles had a 7Y lifecycle (PS2, PSP, PS3 and PS4).
Yes, I know that, and that's why I corrected him in that he shouldn't expect PS6 anytime earlier than 2028, which is the date Tom Henderson has heard per his sources (which have a stellar track record on Sony hardware so far) and the start of next-gen in general per claims made and evidence submited during the FTC trial for the Activision acquisition.
I guess the reason is that Microsoft's plans for the Series X and S mid-gen refresh are completely uninteresting given how their entire strategy in that regards consists of just going all-digital with the Series X, expanding the storage of both models and mimicking the capabilities of the DualSense controller.
No you don't hell look at PS4 Pro came out in 2016 but PS4 is still getting just about every new game in 2023 .
And to follow that up like I think it was
mckmas8808
said in another thread look how long games will still be coming to this current PS5, 2030?
I'm convinced that you are not a real person.
All gossip, speculations suggest a PS5 PRO around Sept/Nov 2024, and PS6 by Nov 2028, together with the Next XBox.
PS6 will come 2028/29.Thats Atleast 4 years later after Pro.
That would be a horrible decision from Microsoft.2 years later will not be very powerful compared to the Pro.The Pro will play same game minus fewer frames or resolution.And Xbox barely sells.When the PS6 comes out it will outsell the Xbox in its first year and will be way more advanced more powerful.I hope atleast there won’t be a less powerful Xbox, like the S else whole gen will be extremely crippled in Multiplattform games.
I don't agree
I agree with your PS5 incremental power increase prediction.
I mostly agree with you, but
HeisenbergFX4
have a point. The Series S is somehow able to be considered a next gen console even if in raw TF (and RAM) it is somewhat inferior to the Xbox One X. But having a more modern GPU and the new CPU more than make up for it. It would be the same for the next Xbox. Even if in paper it will not be the 8x increase that we got this gen, it will not be limited by 2020 AMD tech, and will be a lot more future proof as a result. If we were not talking about Xbox, but about a good competitor, being 2 years early would mean having 10 to 30 millions consoles by the time the PS6 is there. Enough to be relevant and force third parties hands. The series S make IMHO talking about the next gen Xbox a fascinating subject because with such a disparity it make cross games weird to imagine. If PS5 games go to 720p reconstructed to 1080, what will happen to Series S games? 480? Even less? My problem with this 2 years windows is that with Gamepass they will assurely do as this gen and make all of their games cross gen. So it will be seen as a late answer to the Pro by the industry unless it somehow get marketed so well that it sell more than a PS5 that will naturally be a lot cheaper by then to make life hard for Xbox. I can't see the benefits outweight the loss and I think that unless they either really have a good grasp of the US market and/or are ready to do it like the PS3 and sell for half the cost of making it I can't see this work well.
A lot of uncertainty with whatever their actual plans areI mostly agree with you, but
I agree with you that it will be a bad idea because I think that third parties will simply consider it like a Pro version regardless of what Microsoft will say: a game that can be played on the Series S will not be using this next gen console well, and Xbox will not break the bank for exclusivities as they want for all games to be on Gamepass for at least a few years. It will be interesting to see how the market will react in a few years.
My problem with this 2 years windows is that with Gamepass they will assurely do as this gen and make all of their games cross gen. So it will be seen as a late answer to the Pro by the industry unless it somehow get marketed so well that it sell more than a PS5 that will naturally be a lot cheaper by then to make life hard for Xbox. I can't see the benefits outweight the loss and I think that unless they either really have a good grasp of the US market and/or are ready to do it like the PS3 and sell for half the cost of making it I can't see this work well.
As for the Series X refresh, I am not sure that it has been cancelled. No insider so just a feeling, but Xbox really like to compete on price and did so a lot in all Xbox generations. I can see them trying to make those consoles as cheap as possible and wait for next gen. A series X at 300 and a Series S at 200 or less would really sell if the games are there and it should happen one day I think.
With the paten sony/Cerny filed and Tom reporting accelerated ray tracing,
I don't know, there is so much more I have to say about things but can't
Thanks for posting anyway! And yes I am curious too. The Xbox One failure was their own fault. The Series S/X was made from a bad position. But they can't use the same excuse this time for next gen. So I hope that they really find a good hook in their next hardware as it is where they can really make the market grow. The Switch gimmick allowed a lot of studios to sell a lot of games for years. If Xbox find their niche they should be able to do the same.
I would bet massive amounts of money a PS5 Pro is coming and don't know the actual on paper technical specs
Slightly different, but the X1X apparently did much better than they expected and weren't even sure if it was a good idea to release. I'll be honest. The X1X was a golden moment for me, now lost. Lots of enhancement updates and only console at the time to be doing native 4k, just at the time when OLED's and HDR were making excellent strides.
IMO, just like with the XBO and now the Series consoles....it seems like MS has no idea how to compete with Sony when it comes to consoles.
Mid gen refresh seems to be a digital only series x and a new controller. And sustainable plastics/eco-friendly manufacturing.
An AMD-based console in 2026 would actually feature an RDNA 5 architecture. Next year's RDNA 4 won't have any high-end offerings among its lineup, so AMD will most likely fast-forward RDNA 5 development aiming at a late 2025 release for their flagship GPU. If next-gen Xbox releases the year after, I guarantee to you that it will have all the bells and whistles of an architecture that would be a year old at that point.
