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Alex From Digital Foundry calls Silent Hill 2 console exclusivity Pathetic. Gets exposed in comments.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ahem, "expert"
Self_Destructive
Member
There's a very clear difference in what Alex is saying.
Bethesda is a first party MS studio..... exclusivity is fine. Bloober and Konami are not PS studios... thus having a year exclusivity.. is dumb.
Why do some people have such a hard time understanding basic concepts?
Bethesda is a first party MS studio..... exclusivity is fine. Bloober and Konami are not PS studios... thus having a year exclusivity.. is dumb.
Why do some people have such a hard time understanding basic concepts?
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hinch7
Member
Yeah it does seem double standards but if it doesn't affect them on his platform of choice so yeah some bias there. Also owning a studio and going exclusive is a little different than paying off a third party for timed period.
Hence money hatting.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Hold on......Alex use to post of GAF?!
DarkBatman
SBI’s Employee of the Year
So it wasn't pathetic that MS signed exclusive deals with Capcom (Dead Rising 3) or Sega (timed exclusive for the next gen release of Like a Dragon)?
Did DF Alex have any negative comments about this?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
That makes them console games how???
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bro, Gaf was the major industry hub prior to all the internet lunacy. Yes, he was a normal forum poster.
DF got their start off of Gaf.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Doctor Hades
Member
I agree that making the remake of an old game a PS5 console exclusive for a year is a bit pathetic but, presumably, this is down to Sony and their solution to their lack of first-party exclusives, which is to pay money out to make third-party games exclusive instead. If a game is intended for multi-format then it really should not have any exclusivity attached to it in my opinion.
But if the game is also available on PC then it isn't really exclusive in the true sense of the word anyway since it is available on more than one platform...
But if the game is also available on PC then it isn't really exclusive in the true sense of the word anyway since it is available on more than one platform...
Sure, sure. Not this "but they bought the publisher now so making it exclusive is fine whereas paying the publisher to make a game is not" again.
If those court documents didn't come out that Phil would have continued to lie to the world about being anti exclusive deals too:
STALKER 2 Will Be Exclusive to Xbox for Three Months - IGN
Internal documents reveal that the upcoming STALKER 2 will be an Xbox exclusive for three months.
Did twitter twats like Alex keep the same energy is the question.
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TheGodfather07
Member
Bro, xbox would have saved it with its extra 50k copies sold!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If they're paying for production, then they have a right to.
This is a tale as old as time.
Fabieter
Member
Self_Destructive
Member
Who cares if he did? All I'm saying is one of those things he said is not like the other.
Self_Destructive
Member
It's embarrassing that people care that much. He can have his own fanboy opinion just like you or anyone else can...Sure, sure. Not this "but they bought the publisher now so making it exclusive is fine whereas paying the publisher to make a game is not" again.
If those court documents didn't come out that Phil would have continued to lie to the world about being anti exclusive deals too:
STALKER 2 Will Be Exclusive to Xbox for Three Months - IGN
Internal documents reveal that the upcoming STALKER 2 will be an Xbox exclusive for three months.www.ign.com
Did twitter twats like Alex keep the same energy is the question.
DarkBatman
SBI’s Employee of the Year
Be careful, otherwise the ridiculous arguments will come back that MS HAD to buy all the publishers because Sony did so much moneyhatting...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Medium was made by Bloober and was a timed exclusive.
Xbox Series X|S Timed Exclusive The Medium Psyches Out PS5 in September
Adds full DualSense support
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Stalker is also a timed exclusive.
STALKER 2 Will Be Exclusive to Xbox for Three Months - IGN
Internal documents reveal that the upcoming STALKER 2 will be an Xbox exclusive for three months.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
How did Bethesda become a first party MS studio?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
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hinch7
Member
Dude.. all I said he is a PC gamer. Maybe he doesn't care of all this console warrior bs?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
A fuckton of a MONEYHAT.
Oh, but he does. Since he commented on the console exclusivity side of things.
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Self_Destructive
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drganon
Member
Third party timed exclusive : bad
Buying whole publisher : good
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So then Sony should buy Konami and all is gravy then?
I expect paid console exclusivity to ps5 is a pretty tasty deal for devs right now. Given the sales split of third party titles, they’ll only be missing out on about 10% of their console sales, they get a nice lump sum from Sony, and either don’t need to at all (accidentally 100% exclusivity), or can delay the arse on of supporting the series S.
Mr Moose
Member
Fixed.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So it's okay to buy a publisher and 8 dev studios for billions, but not okay to sign one game to be "console" exclusive for one year?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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what can sony do to counteract the 360 gta4 dlc exclusive?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
All them MS timed exclusive receipts.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
We shall see but once GOW hit that mark, every game since including Horizon, TLOU1 and Spiderman have all failed to hit that mark.
We do know what revenues correspond to those figures since sony revealed themselves. its pathetic compared to what they generate on consoles. And again, this is just revenue so subtract 30% from this $26 million for selling $971k units. If we go by Horizon ZD which made $60 million from 2.4 million sales. GOW is at $60 million in revenue, $42 after the steam cut, and maybe around $35 million in profit after marketing and porting costs. Ragnorak and FF16 are 1/3rd the concurrent users so far so 1/3rd of $35 million is $12 million. At this point, whats the point? just skip PC and focus on making a better game on PS5. Sony probably paid around $50-100 million for exclusivity. IIRC, Phil paid $100 million for Rise of Tomb raider.
People forget that a lot of asian countries, south american countries and eastern european countries pay well below the $60 steam charges U.S owners. Thats why so many key websites are able to sell keys for a discount. 1 million sales does not mean $60 million in revenue on PC.
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Skifi28
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Sarcasm?
ShadowNate
Member
1 year console exclusivity is not that bad. We used to have no idea about the duration of the timed exclusivities, or whether they were indeed timed in some cases.
I agree, it would be nice if the title wasn't skipping Xbox at launch. But it's likely that the developers got necessary funding through this exclusivity agreement to polish the game further and properly finish it, and also focusing on less platforms for the release may have benefited the quality of the final product.
I agree, it would be nice if the title wasn't skipping Xbox at launch. But it's likely that the developers got necessary funding through this exclusivity agreement to polish the game further and properly finish it, and also focusing on less platforms for the release may have benefited the quality of the final product.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But were they bad then like the newfound energy now? What say you?These kind of exclusives have always been a thing and nobody used to ever complain
Is STALKER bad? Was the Medium bad? Well yes, some argue the game itself was, but I digress.
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did you even visit those threads? Barely anybody is complaining about the practice of exclusivity in them, there are more people cheering.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
We shall see but once GOW hit that mark, every game since including Horizon, TLOU1 and Spiderman have all failed to hit that mark.
We do know what revenues correspond to those figures since sony revealed themselves. its pathetic compared to what they generate on consoles. And again, this is just revenue so subtract 30% from this $26 million for selling $971k units. If we go by Horizon ZD which made $60 million from 2.4 million sales. GOW is at $60 million in revenue, $42 after the steam cut, and maybe around $35 million in profit after marketing and porting costs. Ragnorak and FF16 are 1/3rd the concurrent users so far so 1/3rd of $35 million is $12 million. At this point, whats the point? just skip PC and focus on making a better game on PS5. Sony probably paid around $50-100 million for exclusivity. IIRC, Phil paid $100 million for Rise of Tomb raider.
The point is they're making millions of dollars out of a small investment. And these are coming a year or oftentimes years after their original Playstation release. It's not like keeping it Playstation exclusive would somehow make the PS version better.
And again, if and when they make the move to day-and-date releases, we're going to see these numbers on PC go way up as well.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, no one was losing their shit about it back in the day ... it's not like it didn't birth a classic meme or two.
I don't know about 'newfound energy', the energy is always there, it just comes from different conduits.
The point being, it's not like people complaining about exclusive games is a new phenomenon.
BennyBlanco
didn't even mention the Dragon Quest IX DS thread. I'm sure I'm missing other examples too.
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Nonehxc
Member
Sadly, twitter dont forget.
I feel bad for defending this guy from time to time. He just cant help himself.
We all know Alex loves them
SlimySnake
s. 
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You did not answer any of the questions.I don't know about 'newfound energy', the energy is always there, it just comes from different conduits.
The point being, it's not like people complaining about exclusive games is a new phenomenon.
AGRacing
Member
I’ve seen the collar before… but that the HELL is this!?
“Oh my god like… shader compilation stutter is like THE. WORST. lol! <3”
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't know about 'newfound energy', the energy is always there, it just comes from different conduits.
The point being, it's not like people complaining about exclusive games is a new phenomenon.
So how do you feel about Stalker 2 timed exclusivity?
ShadowkillXNA
Member
No. It's a thread calling him out as the hypocrite he is.
But go ahead and pretend it isn't if it makes your feelings all better.
