You cherry-picked one issue out of the many I mentioned about AC to make this contrived point?
This categorically false.
I just don’t agree with using the race angle for that particular point. I take no issue with anyone of any race killing anyone else of any race in video games.
The only information we have had is on digital which only applies if you think that figure was for that year alone, but it wasn't, it's total which still leaves it at 10 mil, 11 at most
I can confirm this was the case in the first year too, I bought it for for a few people for Christmas (but from Argos) even with my thoughts on the game, As I said I have no bad will on the company and if people like it, good for them.
As usual, you're cherry picking something taken completely out of context.
Nah, I just didn’t give a shit about the rest.
Fair complaint.
Because there’s a history of Africans invading Japan and colonizing the place. Clearly the same thing. I also like how you went straight to white men instead of using the opposite, which would be a Japanese warrior in Africa killing locals.
I understand it. You’re just spouting stupid shit as usual.
I said the 16mil was wrong and was more like 11milNo, that's false.
February 2020
June 2023
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The Last of Us Part II sold 9.9 million copies at the end of Feb 2022. 41% of those sales were digital at 4 million.
As of June 2023, Digital sales increased to 6,396,577.
That's an additional 2.3 million copies sold digitally.
So at the very least, The Last of Us Part II surpassed 12.2 million copies sold as of June 2023. Again, this is WITHOUT physical sales from March 2022 - June 2023.
I don't know HOW you would look at this data and believe TLOU 2 hasn't surpassed 11 million copies sold.
Ripley's head wasn't a fashion choice. She shaved it to prevent inciting lust in an all male prison (it would be woke if she said her pronouns were he/him though). And even then she still almost got raped until the block/cell leader stopped the rest of the men from doing just that.
She was told to avoid them all together regardless of them and ignored the warning, the prime reason was due to the colony's chronic lice problem which is why all prisoners had their head shaved.
Ye. This is weird one. Its like a lot of movies, tv shows where hig characters get killed, yet I dont see no sentiment of harassing showrunners privately(ehich probably happens), but with gamers its such a weird thing. Is it people being weirdoes dare I day being childish? Laura Baley got harassed to hell and back including her unborn child because of person she portrayed, even the body model got threats. Insanity
It's funny because than the same people cry foul when these actors say anything against this harassment or try standing up for themselves.
This exactly! Well said good sir. Amazing how many people will actually defend these weird choices by Druckmann and other devs.
Your edgelord schtick is dated at this point, my guy.Nah, I just didn’t give a shit about the rest.
Fair complaint.
Because there’s a history of Africans invading Japan and colonizing the place. Clearly the same thing. I also like how you went straight to white men instead of using the opposite, which would be a Japanese warrior in Africa killing locals.
I understand it. You’re just spouting stupid shit as usual.
There’s nothing inherently racist about a black samurai dude in Japan fighting and killing the locals just like there wouldn’t be anything inherently racist about a Japanese dude killing Africans in Africa or even a white dude killing Asians or black people in their respective homeland. Context matters. In Yasuke’s case, this makes sense given what they’re going for and has little to do with racism. Taking an issue with the game’s other problems is one thing, but trying to frame that particular part as racist is just comical.
ND isn’t the dev you wanna defend based on your position my guy.
No, my position is fairly balanced and consistent. You, on the other hand, are making mental gymnastics to defend Naughty Dog against things you supposedly stand for.
I beg to differ. Your Yasuke rhetoric is exactly why I acknowledge nuance and argued against the depiction of Yasuke cutting down enemies as being racist because it isn’t based on the context. You tried to frame this as a double standard. It isn’t.
Not at all. I acknowledge that ND makes high-quality game and my first response to this thread was that they're free to do what they want but that the market will respond accordingly.
My counter-argument is that the entire ND studio is "woke" (a word I don't even use seriously), not just Druckmann as you try to phrase it. Their games have also pushed for ridiculous identity politics and modern left-wing (or liberal depending on where you're from) propaganda, something you argue they haven't done. I'd also argue said woke elements are pretty front and center. They're not just minor things in the background you can ignore.
Then why did you say that a black man cutting down Japanese people is "egregious" and proceeded to argue that their problem with AC were fair, but that their problems with ND aren't? Because ND and Ubisoft are in the same boat when it comes to pushing political agendas. The difference is that ND's products are good whereas Ubisoft stuff sucks. Whatever the case, AC isn't any more woke or seeped into identity politics any more than ND. Acting like Yasuke being black somehow exacerbates the issue is nonsensical. The problem is that it's a Japanese AC game costarring a non-Japanese main character. Phrasing it like his race makes this worse is what I had a problem with.
I perfectly understand and your stance reeks of hypocrisy.
Funny that you talk about exercising meaningful reading comprehension and proceed to do that. Naughty Dog is at the forefront of this crap, but I still acknowledge that they make quality products. Concord just sucks. We aren't talking about whether their games are good or bad, however. We're talking about where they stand in this whole current culture war climate that has been festering for a few years and I would 100% argue ND is one of the most prominent "woke" studios and you have very little grounds to stand on if you preach that you're against this rhetoric but side with them and claim they aren't part of the problem.
It's one thing to get upset and refuse to buy a game based off a completely egregious issue with a game, like a Black samurai killing Japanese people in an Edo period AC game that nobody wanted
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You undermined you're own point, because
Jesus Christ, maybe learn how to formulate sentences. This doesn’t even begin to make sense.
And I can only summarize (not sunrise lmao) that your English is fucking terrible because you miserably fail at basic syntax . The fact that you said "you're" instead of "your" at the beginning of your post further reinforces this belief.
Absolutely. All the haters are calling out those waiting to give it a chance "don't play dumb, you know about the strong girl boss trope" but context (of the times) can cloud your judgment. Woke is a buzz word at the moment people are clinging too. There's also very little self awareness for how cancel culture is occurring on either side of political coin.
This might be true. It’s become hard to distinguish between studios filling quotas and those that have genuine ideas motivated by art, passion and storytelling. But that’s where we’re at, and rational people will still try to navigate through this by supporting games that still have substance beneath the virtue signalling.
These characters are forced though. Most negativity stems from individuals who have reached their limit with their hobby being exploited to promote political/social movements. The girlboss trope has become exhausted at this point. While many don’t mind playing as a female protagonist, including myself, I can easily discern the pretentiousness.
Perhaps for a very small subset of the audience that might be true. But I think it's much more common for people to see female characters obviously designed to be subversive and challenge gender expectations and specifically rally against that. Because it stems from identity politics and intersectionality which are inherently toxic and divisive ideologies.
You're not wrong, but you're also implying every change is positive by definition, which is obviously not true. If things change for the worse, people need to push back for things to get back on track. It's a necessary part of the process.
Once upon a time, games and movies were a haven pure escapism where we could lose ourselves in fantastical worlds or gripping tales without the weight of the real world bearing down on us. They were a shared language that united us, regardless of our beliefs or backgrounds. But now, it feels like politics has seeped into these spaces, and the stories that once brought us together are now being used to divide us
It was controversial but the game reviewed and sold well. Its also getting an HBO series adaptation soon. I don't think they consider it a miss.
Good for u, bro, to me TLOU2 is worse game from this one https://www.metacritic.com/game/star-ocean-integrity-and-faithlessness/
I mean we not the only ones
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TLOU 2 didn’t break the GOTY world record for nothing. The people who dislike it can’t even give a mature constructive explanation. Its always a rant about Neil and being woke. People pretend TLOU 1 that came out in 2013 didn’t have Ellie as lesbian. TLOU 2 was review bombed before it even released. How can you review a game you never played.
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TLOU 2 didn’t break the GOTY world record for nothing. The people who dislike it can’t even give a mature constructive explanation. Its always a rant about Neil and being woke. People pretend TLOU 1 that came out in 2013 didn’t have Ellie as lesbian. TLOU 2 was review bombed before it even released. How can you review a game you never played.
‘The Last Of Us Part 2’ Is Getting Predictably User Score Bombed On Metacritic
The Last of Us Part 2 is getting mobbed by user scores on Metacritic, which we all should have seen coming.
The Last of Us 2 Breaks Game of the Year Record
The Last of Us 2 grabs 300 of a possible 576 Game of the Year awards in 2020, putting it as one of the most acclaimed games in history.
U can make judgement call, especially as veteran player, that game is not to ur liking, we do it as players all the time.TLOU 2 didn’t break the GOTY world record for nothing. The people who dislike it can’t even give a mature constructive explanation. Its always a rant about Neil and being woke. People pretend TLOU 1 that came out in 2013 didn’t have Ellie as lesbian. TLOU 2 was review bombed before it even released. How can you review a game you never played.
‘The Last Of Us Part 2’ Is Getting Predictably User Score Bombed On Metacritic
The Last of Us Part 2 is getting mobbed by user scores on Metacritic, which we all should have seen coming.
The Last of Us 2 Breaks Game of the Year Record
The Last of Us 2 grabs 300 of a possible 576 Game of the Year awards in 2020, putting it as one of the most acclaimed games in history.
What are you talking about
I’m not trying to change any opinions, I’m making statements and providing evidence. TLOU 2 was unfairly targeted since the beginning. It was review bombed before it released. How is that possible? What makes the game woke? How can you justify the unfair review bombing? You guys ignore every milestone TLOU 2 broke besides the story. You can’t deny the graphics, sound, motion matching animations, fight system and controls. What exactly about the story didn’t you like? Are unreasonably low scores justified? How can a 1/10 user review posted before the launch of the game be a valid review?U can make judgement call, especially as veteran player, that game is not to ur liking, we do it as players all the time.
Again- notice the difference here- u defending it and claiming its great game trying so hard to change opinion of other players, while us- ppl who dont like tlou2 and other woke games, we say we dont like them, give our reasoning, but we dont tell u to not like/not play/not buy them, u are free man, not a slave, so u can do whatever u please with ur time and money, and so can we
May I ask why?
Checks out how? I was actually banned from ResetEra for speaking the truth.
sure...
TLOU2 is one of the best if not the best graphical showpiece for last gen, im not denying it, but for many of us that game is like that gorgeous 10/10 supermodel with 0 moral values who gets flown out to dubai so sheiks can literally shit and piss on her among all kinds of crazy shit they do, with bodycount that puts john wick to shame, some guys gonna simp for that woman to the end of time, some will just pump and dump, for some, like myself, she is disgusting filth despite the looks, infact she is so disgusting that i dont wanna touch her even with a stick
