It's funny to see people using the Xbox One enhancements to try & even up the difference but at the same time ignore all the PS4 enhancements.
Guess we should ignore the fact that the PS4 is enhanced for asynchronous fine grained compute?
This whole thing looks like Vegeta thinking he finally reached Goku by turning Majin SSJ2 while Goku is holding back SSJ3.
I'm going by the info that we have. Does killzone have dedicated servers? Azure is a benifit for the xbox. I mean sure we can wait a year and see. But right now, ms has the advantage in tha area.So you're saying Sony won't be able to provide 1st party dedicated servers? The discounted servers MS is offering is the only known advantage, but could possibly be matched by Sony. Until we see who takes advantage of it and if there is a real gap in the number of games with dedicated servers on the X1 vs the PS4, that boast is quite premature.
MS will probably have dedicated servers for all of their first party games where it would be useful. And they offer them to third parties at a significantly reduced price. Only bf4 has dedis on ps4. It's 5 vs 1 so far.
CoD likely will, when asked they didn't say no which lines up with their marketing strategy.
Planetside 2
DC:UO
EQNext
Destiny
The Division
War Thunder
All obviously have dedicated servers as they are MMO's not sure where you got the 5 for xbox one though.
What did iw say when asked about dedicated servers on cod ghosts (I really don't know)? has Sony been asked yet? why wouldn't Sony simply confirm that dedicated servers are being used in the ps4 version instead of letting people think that it won't have them?CoD likely will, when asked they didn't say no which lines up with their marketing strategy.
Planetside 2
DC:UO
EQNext
Destiny
The Division
War Thunder
All obviously have dedicated servers as they are MMO's not sure where you got the 5 for xbox one though.
I'm going by the info that we have. Does killzone have dedicated servers? Azure is a benifit for the xbox. I mean sure we can wait a year and see. But right now, ms has the advantage in tha area.
Not only that but DriveClub also has dedicated servers. To some it is almost like MS invented this shit.
What did iw say when asked about dedicated servers on cod ghosts (I really don't know)? has Sony been asked yet? why wouldn't Sony simply confirm that dedicated servers are being used in the ps4 version instead of letting people think that it won't have them?
What did iw say when asked about dedicated servers on cod ghosts (I really don't know)? has Sony been asked yet? why wouldn't Sony simply confirm that dedicated servers are being used in the ps4 version instead of letting people think that it won't have them?
No they didn't. But they spent a crap ton of money on it. An then boasted about it's uses. I mean, the general consensus here is that the "cloud" is dedicated servers and that when ms talks about "the power of the cloud" they really mean using dedicated servers right?Not only that but DriveClub also has dedicated servers. To some it is almost like MS invented this shit.
That didn't answer the question. Why wouldn't Sony say it has them? It's a yes or no question.It is not up to Sony to confirm this. It is up to Activision and Infinity Ward.
What did iw say when asked about dedicated servers on cod ghosts (I really don't know)? has Sony been asked yet? why wouldn't Sony simply confirm that dedicated servers are being used in the ps4 version instead of letting people think that it won't have them?
Serious question, is Sony contractually prohibitted from confirming the use of dedicated servers for the ps4 version?IW said 'watch this space below for more information in the future.'
As for why neither can confirm nor deny, CoD:Ghost is currently promoting its dedicated servers together with the Xbox Live Cloud's Thunderhead. There's obviously a cross-promotional deal going on.
No they didn't. But they spent a crap ton of money on it. An then boasted about it's uses. I mean, the general consensus here is that the "cloud" is dedicated servers and that when ms talks about "the power of the cloud" they really mean using dedicated servers right?
That didn't answer the question. Why wouldn't Sony say it has them? It's a yes or no question.
Oh man. The denial in this thread
That didn't answer the question. Why wouldn't Sony say it has them? It's a yes or no question.
It's not for Sony to confirm. It's for Activision.What did iw say when asked about dedicated servers on cod ghosts (I really don't know)? has Sony been asked yet? why wouldn't Sony simply confirm that dedicated servers are being used in the ps4 version instead of letting people think that it won't have them?
No they didn't. But they spent a crap ton of money on it. An then boasted about it's uses. I mean, the general consensus here is that the "cloud" is dedicated servers and that when ms talks about "the power of the cloud" they really mean using dedicated servers right?
Serious question, is Sony contractually prohibitted from confirming the use of dedicated servers for the ps4 version?
Almost every PS3 game that uses MLAA has HUD rendered separately from game graphics (Otherwise HUD text would look bad due to MLAA messing with it). It's really not a big deal at all to do that.Was the HUD rendered separately in Wipeout HD or was it scaled like the game was?
Maybe it hasn't been finalized yet? NO ONE KNOWS!Serious question, is Sony contractually prohibitted from confirming the use of dedicated servers for the ps4 version?
Not only that but DriveClub also has dedicated servers. To some it is almost like MS invented this shit.
Why?Oh my goodness...it is not worth talking to you.
Oh man. The denial in this thread that the pure ps4 paper numbers are not all mighty Thor from above and that downplaying of all of Xbox's inherently designed strengths and advantages ...silly man.
same old posts defending the power advantage to the end. Just like most things man, the truth is somewhere in the middle and these machines are as close as any generation ever.
lots of outrage and accusations of parity fixing incoming on DF faceoffs in future.
when in reality the parity comes from MS engineers designing a system that simply doesn't have the same number of CUs as PS but will be able to keep up with and in some cases exceed it.
good luck with the fight. I'll be enjoying all the great games
Serious question, is Sony contractually prohibitted from confirming the use of dedicated servers for the ps4 version?
All I was asking was whether activision or sony has said anything on the matter because I really don't know if they have. He said it wasn't sonys question to answer. But that didn't answer the original question. I see that my question has indeed been answered by someone else however. I'm not trying to be hostile gere.You're asking us here? It's on a game by game basis. Why didn't you ask MSFT about every 360 game not having dedicated servers while paying for XBL?
We can go in circles all day.
Serious question, is Sony contractually prohibitted from confirming the use of dedicated servers for the ps4 version?
MS will probably have dedicated servers for all of their first party games where it would be useful. And they offer them to third parties at a significantly reduced price. Only bf4 has dedis on ps4. It's 5 vs 1 so far.
Well you're being pretty aggressive with your non-agenda.Why?
I don't have some sort of agenda here. The ps4 is 50% stronger than the xb1. It's also easier to work with. But ms has azure. and could easily give ms an advantage. Does that advantage beat out the power and price difference? imo no.
But if someone has the money to spend, doesn't care about the power difference, and places a very high priority on dedicated servers, then I would point them toward the x1.
Thank you for actually answering my questions without attacking me in some way. I didn't know about Thunderhead. But has sony said anything on whether or not gaikai will host servers. I thought it was only for bc. I guess we'll have to wait and see then.As pointed out, Azure is not available to Xb1, only thunderhead is, which is significant;y smaller.
Sony also have cloud services:
Gaikai centres
SOE
Rackspace enterprise customer.
Microsoft spent nothing on thunderhead, they simple partitioned off some of Azure. Sony on the other hand actually purchased a company which has Data centers which actually host GPU's, as far as investing in servers, Sony have invested much more for their games console to have servers compared to Microsoft and their XB1.
That would be likely, yes. When games get as big as CoD they can enforce these kind of clauses if it is beneficial to them.
Well you're being pretty aggressive with your non-agenda.
Yes, Azure or whatever is a potential advantage for Microsoft. They can use that when making deals with 3rd parties.
Does it give Xbox One itself an advantage over PS4?? No. Most people wouldn't notice P2P vs Dedis.
Until games like COD Ghosts are confirmed to NOT have Dedis then we're just going around in circles here.
All I was asking was whether activision or sony has said anything on the matter because I really don't know if they have. He said it wasn't sonys question to answer. But that didn't answer the original question. I see that my question has indeed been answered by someone else however. I'm not trying to be hostile gere.
Thank you for actually answering my questions without attacking me in some way. I didn't know about Thunderhead. But has sony said anything on whether or not gaikai will host servers. I thought it was only for bc. I guess we'll have to wait and see then.
Why?
I don't have some sort of agenda here. The ps4 is 50% stronger than the xb1. It's also easier to work with. But ms has azure. and could easily give ms an advantage. Does that advantage beat out the power and price difference? imo no.
But if someone has the money to spend, doesn't care about the power difference, and places a very high priority on dedicated servers, then I would point them toward the x1.
As pointed out, Azure is not available to Xb1, only thunderhead is, which is significant;y smaller.
Sony also have cloud services:
Gaikai centres
SOE
Rackspace enterprise customer.
Microsoft spent nothing on thunderhead, they simple partitioned off some of Azure. Sony on the other hand actually purchased a company which has Data centers which actually host GPU's, as far as investing in servers, Sony have invested much more for their games console to have servers compared to Microsoft and their XB1.
As pointed out, Azure is not available to Xb1, only thunderhead is, which is significant;y smaller.
Sony also have cloud services:
Gaikai centres
SOE
Rackspace enterprise customer.
Microsoft spent nothing on thunderhead, they simple partitioned off some of Azure. Sony on the other hand actually purchased a company which has Data centers which actually host GPU's, as far as investing in servers, Sony have invested much more for their games console to have servers compared to Microsoft and their XB1.
poorly worded question. I was wondering why Sony wouldn't just confirm the use of dedicated servers on the ps4 version. Doing so would be a quick way to steal some of microsofts thunder.How on earth are we supposed to know if anyone is contractually obligated to not talk about something?
That may just be the most asinine question I've ever read
Thank you for actually answering my questions without attacking me in some way. I didn't know about Thunderhead. But has sony said anything on whether or not gaikai will host servers. I thought it was only for bc. I guess we'll have to wait and see then.
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Is this a serious post or a joke?
poorly worded question. I was wondering why Sony wouldn't just confirm the use of dedicated servers on the ps4 version. Doing so would be a quick way to steal some of microsofts thunder.
Which part do u think is a joke?Is this a serious post or a joke?
Why would they care? They get paid either way right?And piss off Activision in the process, yay.
Which part do u think is a joke?
It is speculation, but is it so hard to believe? Microsoft already have a huge part of the infrastructure in place. They have been building Azure infrastructure for years. It's actually becoming one of of their main sources of revenue from corporate clients.Is this a serious post or a joke?
I'm guessing the part where he said Sony has invested more into servers than MS. Can he even prove that? Are there hard numbers for this anywhere?
Why would they care? They get paid either way right?
Which part do u think is a joke?
I'm guessing the part where he said Sony has invested more into servers than MS. Can he even prove that? Are there hard numbers for this anywhere?
I was thinking maybe all of it?
As far as the power struggle goes this is becoming Sonys secret sauce. Sony has the more powerful machine and just about everyone accepts that.
MS is stronger online, they always have been and they have detailed what they are doing to continue to be next gen. Why can't people accept this? Not that it will necessarily always be the case but Sony have said nothing and people are assuming on their behalf.