Every freaking time? No thanks, there are just too many. Made a suggestion here and hope the admin or some mod will read and think about it.Use the Ignore thread button.
There's forth point. Activision makes more money from digital sales then they do physical.You're triggered not me
Nobody was saying the total amount of sales is even with this news, nobody as the Ps base is far larger from last gen and this gen in console sales.
Idiots were saying that the figures somehow proved that Xbox gamers didn't buy anything anymore due to Gamepass, despite Microsoft saying the opposite.
I stated over and over again that Xbox owners would just buy digital for a couple of reasons,
Firstly Gamepass conditions people to accept digital.
Secondly they run offers on the dash rewarding you to buy digitally.
Third with Third party key sellers allowed to sell Xbox games its cheaper.
Looks like I was vindicated yet again.
It's just console numbers so 43% for xboxSo 43% split between pc and xbox. Very good result for PlayStation in one of xboxs strongest markets!
Every freaking time? No thanks, there are just too many. Made a suggestion here and hope the admin or some mod will read and think about it.
Yeah those guessing games are ridiculous. In October someone estimated 8m, but only MS knows:
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Xbox Series X|S Sales Reach 8 Million, Game Pass Climbs Above 20 Million - Analyst
New numbers for console sales and Game Pass have emerged thanks to an analyst.www.gamespot.com
Oman,Who gives a fuck about UK sales? In Oman, PS5 is enjoying pure dominance, that what matters.
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You know what the ubisoft revenue split per platform is?Yes revenue.
The second one is not a UK games sales thread. It's someone guessing console numbers which is just ridiculous.I mean.......you are posting in all the sales threads, dude.
The second one is not a sales thread. It's someone guessing numbers which is even more ridiculous.
I've provided physical/digital split data from the Playstation side. If Xbox weren't so cloak and dagger about their figures then we would have some split data from their side as well.
Like i said not even real numbers, just someone guessing shit. That's even worse. If my posts annoy you, take you own advice and click the ignore button.Of course it is. It is a console sales thread.
Thread title:
Estimated 2021 console sales numbers
Like i said not even real numbers, just someone guessing shit. That's even worse. If my posts annoy you, take you own advice and click the ignore button.
Yes revenue.
I've provided physical/digital split data from the Playstation side. If Xbox weren't so cloak and dagger about their figures then we would have some split data from their side as well.
Infinitely smaller? Do you understand how percentages work? Based on the data we have, for sales to even out across the two platforms the Xbox digital split would need to run well over 100%.
Even here where the situation is 90% Xbox purchases being digital it's nowhere near enough to make up the deficit on the physical side:
When they commit to putting in effort into backwards compatibility, suddenly digital becomes a lot more attractive.It’s been known for a while that Xbox has the highest digital attach rate of the consoles, this figure is pretty amazing though.
Today i'm in the mood to complain. Those spammy sales threads (and others) annoy the shit out of me and today we got like 6 or so on page 1 from Occulus Quest over console guessing games to Uk and other shit. Makes the forum so confusing. If we had a subforum for it i wouldn't even click it once.Not annoying me at all. Just a bit absurd to make suggestions to the staff about threads you say you don't like but can't stay out of.
I'll let you get back to talking about sales now.
Chris shared the digital data for UK since they started to track it some years ago.Oh no, now we are getting UK digital sales on top of UK retail sales.
I would like a single thread as well, still think this estimate console thread is interesting in the context of game sales numbers.Today i'm in the mood to complain. Those spammy sales threads (and others) annoy the shit out of me and today we got like 6 or so on page 1 from Occulus Quest over console guessing games to Uk and other shit. Makes the forum so confusing. If we had a subforum for it i wouldn't even click it once.
I know you're just trying to start shit (as usual) but the split is just over 50% for XSS compared to XSX, at a tme where XSX is impossible to find in most countries, and XSS is often freely available.Series S definitely the primary next gen Xbox then. XsX a pro model.
Exactly as many feared, next gen not pushing 12tf of power. May explain the lack of performance disparity with PS5, games are just not being optimised to take advantage of XsX.
Forza Horzion 5 Digital share is even higher than CoDPost in thread 'Forza Horizon 5 crosses the line at No.4; Call of Duty holds No. 1 | UK Boxed Charts' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/forz...s-no-1-uk-boxed-charts.1623811/post-265056149
Need to do the new maths, I will make the two possible scenarios assuming the total platform split stays the sames
Even here where the situation is 90% Xbox purchases being digital it's nowhere near enough to make up the deficit on the physical side:
No. this is week 1 data. Digital data for week 2 isn't available yet.Week 1 was 80% (checked).
So this one for Week 2?
Chris shared the digital data for UK since they started to track it some years ago.
Link or its coming out later this week?Forza Horzion 5 Digital share is even higher than CoD
I need to note these sources in my tables.No. this is week 1 data. Digital data for week 2 isn't available yet.
This is GSD data.
That 80% figure was some math mixing GSD and GFK data. That's why it's different
I know you're just trying to start shit (as usual) but the split is just over 50% for XSS compared to XSX, at a tme where XSX is impossible to find in most countries, and XSS is often freely available.
Once XSX becomes available freely around the world, XSX will overtake XSS and will probably finish about 65% to 35% by the end of the gen imo.
Even here where the situation is 90% Xbox purchases being digital it's nowhere near enough to make up the deficit on the physical side:
I know numbers are hard, but the tweet you posted proves exactly that it easily makes up the deficit.
It sells more on Playstation because there are more Playstation consoles out there. When you take that into account, sales are similar between both consoles.So it still sells more on Playstation overall and you say it easily makes up the deficit? That's closing the deficit, not making it up, there is a difference.
The first one can't possibly work imo, the 70:30 platform split in physical came from the article on gamesindustry (I know that he's the same person) and usually it's very precise![]()
2 of 100 of possible scenarios but assuming the total platform splits stay the same; we get the following tables
- top table is if the ratio of physical sales between platforms changes
- bottom table is if the ratio of physical to digital changes
it's probably a combo of both but ehh.
Thought the numbers were wrong but they are right.
55m xbox one vs 120m ps4 and 8.5m xseries vs 13m ps5.So it still sells more on Playstation overall and you say it easily makes up the deficit? That's closing the deficit, not making it up, there is a difference.
different time period i think and different source? i think that 70:30 was purely first week. but need to figure out a better way to do this 'calculator'.The first one can't possibly works imo, the 70:30 platform split in physical came from the article on gamesindustry (I know that he's the same person) and usually it's very precise
It sells more on Playstation because there are more Playstation consoles out there. When you take that into account, sales are similar between both consoles.
So far, the narrative was that Playstation is a software selling beast and that Gamepass is killing software sales. This turned out to be utterly false now.
55m xbox one vs 120m ps4 and 8.5m xseries vs 13m ps5.
Playstation wins due to advantage numbers.
I wonder why the PS owners are lagging behind so much on digital adoption. Sony even has an all digital console so I don't get it. PS owners prefer physical by and large. Maybe Game Pass has a lot to do with the digital adoption rates on the Xbox? Or because Xbox embraced online services so much earlier than Playstation?
I don’t know, if I still had my physical Ridge Racer 6 disc I could play it on Xbox Series X, but I don’t so now I have to hope that MS put the digital version up on the store in my country.When they commit to putting in effort into backwards compatibility, suddenly digital becomes a lot more attractive.
True. But also you can still play digital games you've purchased before they get delisted, and you can redownload them. But sometimes they remove your ability to purchase them still.I don’t know, if I still had my physical Ridge Racer 6 disc I could play it on Xbox Series X, but I don’t so now I have to hope that MS put the digital version up on the store in my country.
So now the fact that there are more sales on PS platforms doesn't count because... reasons?
Ok, got it.
You are taking this wrong way.So now the fact that there are more sales on PS platforms doesn't count because... reasons?
Ok, got it.
I wonder why the PS owners are lagging behind so much on digital adoption. Sony even has an all digital console so I don't get it. PS owners prefer physical by and large. Maybe Game Pass has a lot to do with the digital adoption rates on the Xbox? Or because Xbox embraced online services so much earlier than Playstation?
Yes, that's a great point I had not considered! While their BC program felt almost too good to be true since they were not making any money off it directly, it probably did have the effect of getting people to buy more digitally knowing their games should be safe going forward. Smart move I suppose considering their higher margins on digital content. MS over here playing 4d chess or some shit/.MS embracing backwards compatibility as early as they did probably helped too. Makes digital feel "safer" on the platform. Even though I had both a PS4 and X1, I almost always bought third-party on Xbox because I figured there was a good chance those games carried over to whatever was next.
I don't think digital numbers for the second week are out yet, also physical dropping from 30% to 15% in total in just one week seems too much.different time period i think and different source? i think that 70:30 was purely first week. but need to figure out a better way to do this 'calculator'.
It's probably a combo of both (sony selling more physical relative to xbox and physical dropping relative to digital) but that's too much maths for me.I don't think digital numbers for the second week are out yet, also physical dropping from 30% to 15% in total in just one week seems too much.
Also it was recorded that the physical drop week on week was really good.
Yeah I wouldn't describe it as lagging. It's right in the middle of Switch and Xbox.Lagging?
The digital splits for the last 2 quarters are as follows:
Q4 FY2020 - 79%
Q1 FY2021 - 70%
The industry average is 72% for consoles as of december last year:
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91% of 2020's Game Industry Revenue Was Digital
The video game industry is quickly moving away from physical copies and brick-and-mortar stores, as game sales are now almost completely online.gamerant.com
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Yes, lagging. From the very article you linked. Digital was 73% on PS in 2020. From the COD example it was 90% digital on XSX. Do we know what it was on PS? If not, we can assume it is consistent with their overall digital slaes of 73%. 73% vs 90%. LAGGING.Lagging?
The digital splits for the last 2 quarters are as follows:
Q4 FY2020 - 79%
Q1 FY2021 - 70%
The industry average is 72% for consoles as of december last year:
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91% of 2020's Game Industry Revenue Was Digital
The video game industry is quickly moving away from physical copies and brick-and-mortar stores, as game sales are now almost completely online.gamerant.com
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