Does it rhyme with wench?I'm stealing this one. I know just the person too..
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Yuuuup. Console wars were silly and harmless. This culture was stuff is awful… for everyone. (Developers and gamers are both to blame)You have a point. Much as I detested them, I'm realizing that whatever replaces them will almost certainly be worse.
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I remember you once said that you don't care about the possible impact gamepass might have regarding the quality of games being made as long as you get them cheaper. That was your bottom line, you save money. Oh, Eriksson you are so full of it.
All those IP's they bought, all those AAA games turn into AA (or lower, if anything at all) games but you're happy because you got call of duty on gamepass. Keep it up eriksson.
It was however the game of the generation. Let's put things in relative context, please.
If people want to talk quality, Avowed currently sits at 7.1 user-rating on Metacritic:To be fair. There's a lot of users that like to talk about numbers and not quality here so, yes. Starfield was an absolute beast and incredible success on steam.
Does that make it good?...far from it, but it's deffo the kind of metric that gets a large portion of this forum horny.
Sentient is a stretch…No thanks, I don't generally make bets, let alone with sentient walking clown emojis.![]()
A bit at the start, but it petered out quite soon relatively speaking didn’t it?To be fair. There's a lot of users that like to talk about numbers and not quality here so, yes. Starfield was an absolute beast and incredible success on steam.
If people want to talk quality, Avowed currently sits at 7.1 user-rating on Metacritic:
Avowed Reviews
Avowed is a first-person fantasy RPG set in the world of Eora, where your choices carve a path through war, intrigue, and ancient mysteries. Navigate a land in turmoil, forge powerful alliances or deadly rivalries, and wield magic and steel to shape the fate of the Living Lands—and your own destiny.www.metacritic.com
Reminds me of Hellblade II review thread and all of the jokes that thread was longer than a game itself. Good times lolEight pages over this dross. Keep it up lads and we'll have a better engagement than the game![]()
Some of the footage I’ve seen looks absolutely rough.
Is it much different from 'professional' reviews?You're using user-rating as a metric? That too on Metacritic?
Why are you using Metacritic reviews to judge? The issue is that all the console warriors jump onto that site as they can post without proof of purchase which leads to a s*** show. If you want a more accurate representation, have a look on Steam reviews. It has a larger number of reviews (nearly 2900 at the time of writing) and is Very Positive (82%). Of course I guess you only see what you want to see.If people want to talk quality, Avowed currently sits at 7.1 user-rating on Metacritic:
Avowed Reviews
Avowed is a first-person fantasy RPG set in the world of Eora, where your choices carve a path through war, intrigue, and ancient mysteries. Navigate a land in turmoil, forge powerful alliances or deadly rivalries, and wield magic and steel to shape the fate of the Living Lands—and your own destiny.www.metacritic.com
SteamDB shows 78% rating out of 3K scores.Why are you using Metacritic reviews to judge? The issue is that all the console warriors jump onto that site as they can post without proof of purchase which leads to a s*** show. If you want a more accurate representation, have a look on Steam reviews. It has a larger number of reviews (nearly 2900 at the time of writing) and is Very Positive (82%). Of course I guess you only see what you want to see.
A bit at the start, but it petered out quite soon relatively speaking didn’t it?
That does not mean sales increased. Sales kicked off and then petered out.I believe it hovered around the above 100K for a while. Like most games really.
That does not mean sales increased. Sales kicked off and then petered out.
Some of the footage I’ve seen looks absolutely rough.
Thats extremly low amount of reviews, bro, 3k, even da:v that we know was big bomb had 37k reviews (and 89k ccu ;p)SteamDB shows 78% rating out of 3K scores.
Anyway, I was just pointing out afterDenchDeckard wanted to use quality as a metric instead of CCU.
Although, both can be used.
100% yes. The hype for Starfield was unreal before launch. Steam numbers crashed quickly after realizing its issuesA bit at the start, but it petered out quite soon relatively speaking didn’t it?
You expect it to become 85% if there's 30k reviews?Thats extremly low amount of reviews, bro, 3k, even da:v that we know was big bomb had 37k reviews (and 89k ccu ;p)
For obsidian's sake i hope they get at least those measly 50k ccu over the weekend otherwise it will be confirmed game flopped in a really nasty way![]()
100% yes. The hype for Starfield was unreal before launch. Steam numbers crashed quickly after realizing its issues
From a marketing perspective, this extended preview is the GOAT. Game looked so good before release, then gamers actually played it
The same happened with Hellblade 2, Indy and now Avowed.Yup ppl srsly thought its gonna be skyrim in space, obviously bugged at launch but very fun to play and immersive af, to give u perspective polish streamer i follow/like who before starfield played 90% of his time in diablo(d2r) was super hyped about it and streamed starfield too, ofc it was boring af and huge letdown for him but bethesda's/microsoft marketing did flawless job selling the game![]()
It's not... It's a huge downgrade in all RPG aspects compared to previous Obsidian games, even Outer Worlds.Game is awesome.
People will miss out on it for acting retarded.
Wonderful.
Nope, i expect it to get lower and lower, probably to below/around 60% only but sale is a sale after all those 60-70$ from steam is just as good from guy who adores the game or another who think its mid at best, as long as no refund ;DYou expect it to become 85% if there's 30k reviews?
Knowing the number is likely inflated by fans, the 7.1 from metacritic doesn't even seem unreasonable.
Indeed, now in hindsight we know true peak was actually starfield sales, by far, and nothing gonna even come remotely close.The same happened with Hellblade 2, Indy and now Avowed.
It's a clear pattern for Xbox 1st party.
Lol Yeah, agreed on the score.Nope, i expect it to get lower and lower, probably to below/around 60% only but sale is a sale after all those 60$ from steam is just as good from guy who adores the game or another who think its mid at best, as long as no refund ;D
But I thought Gamepass actually INCREASED sales?
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Exploration, combat, and level design is better than any other Obsidian game. Story and RPG elements are probably the weakest of any Obsidian game. It's definitely a mixed bag. It is certainly more of an action RPG than a traditional RPGIt's not... It's a huge downgrade in all RPG aspects compared to previous Obsidian games, even Outer Worlds.
Everything feels extremely fake, nothing is immersive or interactive, it's literally worse than RPGs from 2006.
The only reason you could enjoy it, is if you're only going in it without expecting a RPG at all, if you don't care about immersion / exploration, and just want to get loot, loot, loot.
Some of the footage I’ve seen looks absolutely rough.
What are you talking about?It's not... It's a huge downgrade in all RPG aspects compared to previous Obsidian games, even Outer Worlds.
Everything feels extremely fake, nothing is immersive or interactive, it's literally worse than RPGs from 2006.
The only reason you could enjoy it, is if you're only going in it without expecting a RPG at all, if you don't care about immersion / exploration, and just want to get loot, loot, loot.
I really wouldn't call the exploration and level design better than other Obsidian game.Exploration, combat, and level design is better than any other Obsidian game. Story and RPG elements are probably the weakest of any Obsidian game. It's definitely a mixed bag. It is certainly more of an action RPG than a traditional RPG
I find it amusing they decided to set the game in a region called The Living Lands, then decided to pull off something like this and called it a day
What's so funny in my post you reacted to? I don't think I've said any lies there, it's all observations from what's actually ingame. It's okay if it doesn't bother you, but it's still things that do lower the quality of the immersion.What are you talking about?
It has exceptional exploration. Level design is great.
Not saying the game is perfect.What's so funny in my post you reacted to? I don't think I've said any lies there, it's all observations from what's actually ingame. It's okay if it doesn't bother you, but it's still things that do lower the quality of the immersion.
Some of the footage I’ve seen looks absolutely rough.
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There's no way you're not an employee of MS/Xbox. LolNot saying the game is perfect.
Its funny you are not talking about actual problems. Seems made up criticism.
I deleated the game when the charakterdesigner startet. I´m too old for this.
Not saying the game is perfect.
Its funny you are not talking about actual problems. Seems made up criticism.
Is the character forced to have fungus growing on their face?
Maybe they're not actual problems for you if you don't care about these specific things, but for me and other people they are, that's all.Not saying the game is perfect.
Its funny you are not talking about actual problems. Seems made up criticism.
Too much to hope you can turn it off completely? Seems like it’s part of the story. There’s something about the look that triggers trypophobia in me.There is a character preset that has more of skin mark than fungus. I chose that one. You can turn off showing the shit on your face either way, but then why choose to have it in the first place? It is as if someone came in later and said "let's make the stupid shit optional".
All true and I can see how that would bother some. It isn't bothering me at all though - maybe a little at first until I realize it's just not that kind of game.Maybe they're not actual problems for you if you don't care about these specific things, but for me and other people they are, that's all.
It's really immersion breaking for me to see things like this, the world doesn't feel immersive and it doesn't make me want to explore.
I feel the same way about the loot for example too. The fact that you can't interact with and search dead bodies, but instead you see all loots / items shining and making sound, is a negative for me, because by doing it like this, you also immediately know where there won't be anything. If you're walking around and you don't hear a sound or see something shining, you know there's nothing to find, it makes the world feel less organic, it's less engaging to me, it feels more artificial.
It's really not "made up criticism", it's things I really don't like, and older RPGs, even from Obsidian, did all of this a lot better. Everything feels fake and lazy, but it probably works well if someone wants everything to be fast and immediate, without looking for immersion.
It can all be turned off (but NPCs will still comment as if it's on because it's plot integral).Too much to hope you can turn it off completely? Seems like it’s part of the story. There’s something about the look that triggers trypophobia in me.
Oh nice, I can give it a try then. Thank you.It can all be turned off (but NPCs will still comment as if it's on because it's plot integral).
There's no way you're not an employee of MS/Xbox. Lol