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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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G-Fex

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How many times did they say they weren't going to use kryptonite before they caved in cause they didn't know how to do someone fighting superman that isn't kryptonian.
 

Shaanyboi

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Well your taking a hell of a lot out of those comments. Is that first one about the "true canon" comment he made? Cause that isn't what it was about at all.

Well when DC was just about to start ramping up their production on this universe, someone asked Kevin Feige what advice he'd give. His response was along the lines of "Just be true to the characters." Zack, however, repeatedly has defended his choices with "People are mad because I made these characters grow up!" As if that's what people needed - an intentionally murderous Batman/Superman.

Are they using Kryptonite to underpowered Sups? If they are it's a cheap move.

Batman, using cheap moves to fight Superman? Whaaaaat?! As if that hasn't been the case with literally every Batman/Superman fight ever.
 

cyberheater

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How many times did they say they weren't going to use kryptonite before they caved in cause they didn't know how to do someone fighting superman that isn't kryptonian.

Exactly. I'm so fed up with it. Have they got no imagination.
 
So edgy

You're whining and really that upset I like one movie over another huh?

No. I'm pretty sure you're the only person on GAF who non-ironically enjoys Batman & Robin.

By the way, let me gobble up those tears.

How many times did they say they weren't going to use kryptonite before they caved in cause they didn't know how to do someone fighting superman that isn't kryptonian.

Honest question: which is worse? Kryptonite or the Bat Credit-Card?
 

munchie64

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Well when DC was just about to start ramping up their production on this universe, someone asked Kevin Feige what advice he'd give. His response was along the lines of "Just be true to the characters." Zack, however, repeatedly has defended his choices with "People are mad because I made these characters grow up!" As if that's what people needed - an intentionally murderous Batman/Superman.
When did he say that?
 
No. I'm pretty sure you're the only person on GAF who non-ironically enjoys Batman & Robin.

By the way, let me gobble up those tears.



Honest question: which is worse? Kryptonite or the Bat Credit-Card?
Be nice.
Oh here we go. Gaf is now at the 'blame the actors' phase. Next phase : blame eachother.

I think Snyder is a decent director but unfortunately his direction is not suitable for most superhero movies. He gets the blame for me. (and the editor)
 

G-Fex

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No. I'm pretty sure you're the only person on GAF who non-ironically enjoys Batman & Robin.

By the way, let me gobble up those tears.

What tears? Quit craving my attention.

Did you even read? I said it's silly. Learn to read buddy boy. I don't take it as a serious movie. I'm not sure why someone enjoying a stupid movie even a little more than the 'masterpiece' of TDK films.

I was wrong to knee jerk that they're borefests. They're not boring, but they are something I find often with Nolans movies, I can only watch them once really. I even said that after watching Inception
 

Shaanyboi

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When did he say that?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/zack-snyder-says-he-tried-grow-up-superman-man-steel

“I was surprised with the fervency of the defense of the concept of Superman,” said Snyder. “I feel like they were taking it personally that I was trying to grow up their character.” Snyder also recalled being told that his film had more collateral damage than any other movie in recent memory, which was a claim that surprised him.
 

neorej

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Shaanyboi

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Guys, this guy. He compares the collateral damage of Man of Steel to Force Awakens.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Zack...e-People-Than-Man-Steel-Has-Point-120067.html



He really doesn't get it, does he?

We got a thread about it. And no, he really doesn't.

Sounds quite a bit different from what you said. Like I said before it doesn't excuse him, but he clearly has trouble speaking. Has he said something similar at a different time?

What did I imply that was different?
 

Sblargh

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It is really juvenile thinking a superhero needs to be violent in order to grow up.

I mean, it's like some people learned nothing from the 90s.
 

Red Hood

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It was silly of me to get hyped, trailers looked awesome and I was sure Snyder wouldn't fuck up :(


Oh well, there's still X-Men that I very much look forward to.
 
Guys, this guy. He compares the collateral damage of Man of Steel to Force Awakens.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Zack...e-People-Than-Man-Steel-Has-Point-120067.html

He really doesn't get it, does he?

Listen, after the disaster that was MoS WB still decided to give this guy the keys to the entire film franchise. Now, within that limitless realm of possibility he was free to choose from all the various Superman stories out there since the character was created and then some. And yet, despite all of this he chose to base the next major film which would kick off the new DC universe on the last part of an 2edgy Miller comic where Superman gets beat up by Batman.

I'm pretty sure he has no regard for and does not get Superman.
 

Rymuth

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I thank the universe that I'd discovered GAF, joined up and was there to experience this thread in real time. Bless all of you.
 

Liamario

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Loving that title. I'm thinking the RT score is not indicative of the movie though. Looking forward to seeing it, but I'm not losing sleep in anticipation.
 

Siegcram

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I wonder if the Director's Cut is a better cut of the movie. Were the execs interfering with the story and now Snyder is taking the fall for it.
Right, because Snyder is a talented storyteller, held back by meddling suits.

Thanks, I needed that laugh in the morning.
 

jelly

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There is a real chance Suicide Squad will be horrible.
It's like some people here haven't seen Ayer's last few movies.
Fury was good, but none of the characters were likeable. Amazing stylized shooting and INCREDIBLE music though.
Sabotage...I won't even talk about that one.

You get Ayer to do your superhero movie, and you're taking a real fucking risk in terms of quality. But at least its a risk, and it should be applauded.

Fury was good, characters weren't nice people but the scenes were still good to watch.

I didn't like Sabotage. That was a really odd film.

End of Watch was good too, ending aside that some people hate.

Street Kings is another good one.

I think he wrote Training Day.

I haven't seen Harsh Times with Bale but it gets good reviews.

The Fast and Furious, U571 screenplays.

That's pretty a good run.
 

Dahbomb

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Right, because Snyder is a talented storyteller, held back by meddling suits.

Thanks, I needed that laugh in the morning.
Not defending Hack Snyder here but his Watchmen Ultimate edition was quite a bit better than the theatrical cut.

From what I have heard of the movie, it seemed like it could've used better editing and more breathing time on specific scenes near the beginning.

Then again, the last thing this movie needs is more bloat.
 

Fliesen

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Utter bollocks gif. There is no machine on the planet that would give Sups any bother.

God I hate the idea of this stupid film.

have you seen the movie?
Superman's weakened by Kryptonite gas.

Bias. I mean, dem damn Marvel fanboys even went as far to make Deadpool a roaring success!

and there's a huge fanbase of Arrow, The Flash and even Supergirl. Because those series, even if they're super icky DC franchises, are handled well and - for lack of a better term - 'enjoy being what they are'.
 

Minamu

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Do we know how the r rated version is going to be different?

I'm losing interest fast, I'm sad to say. This was a guaranteed cinema experience for the missus and I but now I'm not as sure :/
 

Dahbomb

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Do we know how the r rated version is going to be different?

I'm losing interest fast, I'm sad to say. This was a guaranteed cinema experience for the missus and I but now I'm not as sure :/
It will have Malone's character and more scenes lingering on violent parts of the movie.

It has at least 30 mins of footage though which is quite the amount of extra content.
 
Would WB be tempted to release the director cut to theaters to try and get a bit more money if week 2 has a huge drop off?

A common complaint seems to be that there's too many subplots and an unfocused narrative. I can't imagine that adding in more stuff would solve that. I haven't seen the movie yet, but it sounds like it would benefit greatly from removing all of the "dawn of justice" stuff and just being a BvS movie.

I foresee many fan edits that reduce the run time by around 30-45 minutes.
 

Minamu

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It will have Malone's character and more scenes lingering on violent parts of the movie.

It has at least 30 mins of footage though which is quite the amount of extra content.
Yeah that was more than expected, hmm. Still, I'll probably go see it this weekend or so.
 

Piku_Ringo

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But to expect Snyder and comrades to find a more creative solution when decades of comics have barely managed that is unrealistic to say the least.

You can't throw fucking red sun gloves in this movie.

Even so, they shouldn't if even attempted to try a hand at it in the first place.

Hell, Goyer shouldn't of even been anywhere near a keyboard to type out the script for this movie in the first place.


WB needs to get Max Landis on board to write the Justice League Film. Cause Snyder and Co aren't gonna cut it
 

Dahbomb

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A common complaint seems to be that there's too many subplots and an unfocused narrative. I can't imagine that adding in more stuff would solve that. I haven't seen the movie yet, but it sounds like it would benefit greatly from removing all of the "dawn of justice" stuff and just being a BvS movie.

I foresee many fan edits that reduce the run time by around 30-45 minutes.
A lot of complaints are against the middle boring part of the movie.

First 30 minutes are great, last 30 minutes are also good enough for an action movie.... but there's a good one hour thirty minute in the middle that is a big meh for most people. Totally knee capped the pacing of the movie.
 

NotLiquid

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I had a feeling it would bomb critically. It's a Zack Snyder film, what do you expect?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Man of Steel could have been fantastic so I gave it some benefit of doubt that he could have done his homework with this movie. Then I saw the first few trailers, realized Warner forced Batman as a solution to a different problem and that Snyder is still Snyder.

Sigh.
 

Fliesen

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He's right though. It's a cop out.

i prefer Kryptonite over "hah, we're holding person_x_who_is_close_to_you hostage!", which pretty much EVERY Superhero movie EVER includes. (which, usually, is a lady or a girl ...)
(Pepper Potts, Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacy, Aunt May, ...)

Which is why i found Joker's Game of prisoner's dilemma in TDK so much more interesting than him strapping Rachel Dawes to a bomb.

Which is why straight up Kryptonite based weaponry against Superman is so much more exciting than the 20th time we hear the phrase "who are you gonna save, thousands of innocent lives, or the life of the woman you love?!"
(which leads to those dumb "we can't be together, i'm putting you in danger" storylines in the sequel)
 

Skux

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The MCU never had this awkward "pre-Avengers" vibe. Yes there was some table setting in the individual films but that was mostly relegated to post-credits stingers. Each film was still a whole self-contained story.

Why try to jam all the Justice League set up in one film :( There'd be plenty of time to do that in the JL film itself.
 
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