Yeah. I mean he even re-wrote the script while filming and still in batsuit. Batfleck being good is totally thanks to him I feel.
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Yeah. I mean he even re-wrote the script while filming and still in batsuit. Batfleck being good is totally thanks to him I feel.
And people are begging for a batman standalone. He's already the big winner.
DrForester
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It's possible he thought he could do it better and faster than Marvel did.
Seems he might've been wrong.
I don't think it's so much that the thought he could, as that WB/DC wanted to try to catch up as fast as possible. Marvel made household names out of characters that were pretty unknown to the general public (like Thor, and especially Ironman). WB/DC were unwilling to put in that time and effort.
Your larger point about low quality scaring some talent away may be on point, but isn't Jai Courtney kind of cherry picking a weak/minor actor in that universe? I mean on the other hand you could say "I would want to be on the same side of the fence as JK Simmons, Ezra Miller, Ben Affleck, Lawrence Fishburne, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, etc...". Given the size of the cast in Suicide Squad it's not like every one of them needs to be top-tier.
Gordon Shumway
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Dash_Riprock
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Considering that Bat, Supers, and WW were more well known than any Marvel hero barring maybe Spider-Man, perhaps WB thought there was no need to give them each their own movie?
Screaming Meat
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Here ya go.
TL;DR - The film wears the comic's skin but has none of it's heart.
This guy gets it too.
it 100% is
the current lineup of actors is pretty good, but all of them were signed pre BvS. I wonder if the mediocre reception to BvS and possibly future installments of the DC universe is going to scare off good actors.
Look at Deadpool or Star Wars, on the other hand, where actors are actively and publically campaigning to be part of the respective universe (as Cable and young Han Solo).
it 100% is
the current lineup of actors is pretty good, but all of them were signed pre BvS. I wonder if the mediocre reception to BvS and possibly future installments of the DC universe is going to scare off good actors.
Look at Deadpool or Star Wars, on the other hand, where actors are actively and publically campaigning to be part of the respective universe (as Cable and young Han Solo).
No. Even Actors like a good payday. That's silly.
Kenzodielocke
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This is basically Snyders MGSV.
Dash_Riprock
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I mean, you never see Michael Bay struggling to land actors. TF4 had Stanley Tucci ffs.
It all makes sense now.
Can confirm he's an arsehole. Treated my MUA friend like complete shit on the set of a talkshow about 4 or 5 years ago, and apparently has a reputation of doing the same to other "less important" crew members.
to be fair, being in Transformers doesn't disqualify you from entering a Marvel franchise, i'd believe that being closely connected to a DC franchise actually would.
I'm not talking about everyone avoiding signing a lucrative DC role, especially those who are mostly in for a paycheck - but those generally rather picky about there roles might possibly think twice about accepting a DC role.
DrForester
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Possibly. Though I think after the massive success of The Dark Night, a standalone Batman movie to introduce this new Batman would have been smart.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Wow. The Superman the DC fanbase deserves.
Seriously, I'm not sure how nightmares on set like this guy, Willis, etc continue to find work?
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
If MoS & BvS turn out to have actually have taken place on the DCEU's version of Earth-3, then it might just justify all this tomfoolery...
Inferno313
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This is an accurate description of almost all of Snyder's films.
He's the perfect filmmaker for comic-book fans who think all of the X-Men films are bad for not having comic-accurate costumes.
He'll create a killer visual adaptation of whatever he's working on, and completely miss the spirit of the thing.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Plus he's likely to direct the next Batman and probably make over a billion on it. Just give me a Rated R Red Hood
Though if this bombs financially, I don't know if WB is going to be so free in terms of creativity for their directors/writers.DrForester
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Need a title change...
Indeed.
Best scene of the movie ahahaha
He appropriates comic visuals. He doesn't care about doing justice to the material, he just wants to put a glowing penis on screen. If he made a Daredevil movie 82% of its running time would be Daredevil wrapped around a cross.
VeryGooster
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Man. WB/DC handed their comic film universe to a guy whose answer for his controversial third Superman act is "BUT STAR WARS."
WadiumArcadium
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If his comments are anything to go by, it's not a priority. Which is fair enough.
I've pointed this out earlier (which at this point is probably 50 pages back), but the big difference between pulling the plug on a Snyder Justice League now vs. most other situations where a studio fires a director at the last minute, is that it wouldn't just affect that one movie. Snyder is, to different extents, overseeing and producing the next half dozen of WB's DC films. If they do decide to eat a massive loss on JL by firing Snyder and delaying the production by however long, do they then risk disrupting product on a bunch of other movies by removing Snyder altogether? Or do they relegate Snyder to being 'just' a producer? In which case, how damaged is that relationship now when you've fired him as director for your own Avengers equivalent, but still want him to shepherd every other superhero film?
WB could also just stick with their plan in letting Snyder continue on as director of JL and producer for everything else, but tighten the reins a lot more... but then you run the risk of creating another Green Lantern, which was fucked up by having too many cooks in the kitchen.
WB has a few options here but none of them are really good.
Who's the asshole?
Pai Pai Master
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The half assed palladium poisoning subplot was far more egregious than the Avengers stuff, which was honestly one of the better parts of the movie.
Dash_Riprock
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No, no it wasn't.
Don't worry, next year LEGO Batman is coming out. All will be right.
They're filming Justice League in 3 weeks with the exact same creative team. This an unmitigated disaster. If I was in charge of Warner Brothers I would scrap Zack Snyder and the Justice League completely and double down on Suicide Squad. Hopefully David Ayer has the sense to actually make a good movie.
Lego DC Extended Universe incoming? Lego Batman will get glowing reviews from critics after BvS.
Lego DC Extended Universe incoming? Lego Batman will get glowing reviews from critics after BvS.
Screaming Meat
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Gordon Shumway
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Makes sense lol..
I think Nite-owl going off to make out with Silk is worse. He knew what Rorschach wouldn't compromise. He was a friend and partner, and leaving him to chase the inevitable would be cold. I also believe Ozy would allow it. He displayed a flash of uncertainty and sought approval for his action. It is feasible he had enough remorse to let Nite-owl vent.
I feel this part is an improvement by Snyder.
Interesting. And I think I liked MoS a little more than you did so maybe I will mildly enjoy this.
"No, Zack, you cannot put another pointless scene in the movie."
"But I want to have this shot, it looks cool."
"No, Zack, you have to tell a cohesive story. You can't just put every idea you have in the movie."
"But I want that shot. I want it I want it I want it."
JadedWriter
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Is this real life? This isn't the happy people I grew up knowing according to the Paul Dini cartoon. That "Shut up and die Lara" line, fucking lol.
It's not Superman. It's Ultraman from a parallel universe where everyone is a dick.
Phreakuency
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Just got back from watching it tonight here in Aus.
There's something cool about Batman in general that we all seem to like and Affleck was surprisingly good. I'd gladly pay to watch him in his own (non Snyder) movie.
Ok, now the negatives...
EVERYTHING ELSE.
One of the worst, most stupid, cringeworthy movies I've seen in a long time.
It's like a 12 year old was given a zillion dollars to make a Batman vs Superman movie.
Actually, it's like...
Really, really bad.
There's something cool about Batman in general that we all seem to like and Affleck was surprisingly good. I'd gladly pay to watch him in his own (non Snyder) movie.
Ok, now the negatives...
EVERYTHING ELSE.
One of the worst, most stupid, cringeworthy movies I've seen in a long time.
It's like a 12 year old was given a zillion dollars to make a Batman vs Superman movie.
Actually, it's like...
Really, really bad.
Pai Pai Master
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Note the "U" instead of the "S"
Well, I hope he keeps appearing in flops so that people will stop paying him so much.
Brainiac 8
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Except for Alexander Luthor.
Mr. Pointy
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Man, if I had any creative control of this film at WB, I'd have given this film, Steven Soderbergh and an editing booth 72 hours alone.
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