Agreed, I am shocked at the vehemence with which some people are defending this movie.
I'm way more shocked at the utter hatred. And there is WAY more of it than defending, from what I've seen.
Agreed, I am shocked at the vehemence with which some people are defending this movie.
I'm way more shocked at the utter hatred. And there is WAY more of it than defending, from what I've seen.
What Age of Ultron has over Batman v Superman, is that film was actually about something, though it was a bit clumsy about how it goes about it. (That Vision / Ultron scene linked earlier gets to the heart of it.)
What was BvS about? The entire film is premised on the need for two super heroes to fight. There's this thing I refer to as "plot scaffolding". Some movies have a story to tell, and as that story is told things happen and characters conflict and from those conflicts things like action scenes result. (A simple example would be the Thor/Iron Man fight in Avengers. Fan service, but fan service that built out of the story.) BvS works backward: it's premised on a fight, and the entire point of the film is there's a fight between them in the 3rd act. But the movie doesn't know how to get there, so it erects plot scaffolding for the director to scrabble up to reach that point. But the scaffolding is on full display, it's badly built and it's creaky as hell.
Consider how the film makes gestures toward the philosophical differences between Superman and Batman's approaches to solving crime, what their role in the world is, and how the public perceives them. But they're never more than failings in that direction - their conflict doesn't build out of them. Instead we get a rube goldberg machine of a plot to engineer the titular fight, rather than the fight be the result of a story that was being told.
The other thing BvS is doing is setting up Justice League, which it does in ways that are far more intrusive than any of Marvel's EU hooks they drop into their films.( At least they knew to plop some of them after the credits.) In BvS, the climax of the film is interrupted so. The film shows its hand in that moment - the thing we were supposed to be caring about is finally happening, and the brakes are slammed for sequel staging.Wonder Woman can literally watch trailers for future Justice League characters
There's not a stand alone story that's really being told at all here. It's an absurdly engineered title fight that is itself actually a ruse, serving primarily to set up a sequel in which a story might actually take place.
If you're being truly honest with yourself, you can't be. You will see it for its flaws but enjoy it for entertainment purposes.I don't know how you can be shocked at the hatred, even if you liked the movie.
That 3+ hour cut can't replace Jesse Eisenberg, can it?All I have to say is the 3+ hour directors cut Snyder has been promising better deliver. You could totally tell they skipped a lot.
Most people are just joking around at this point.I'm way more shocked at the utter hatred. And there is WAY more of it than defending, from what I've seen.
I'm way more shocked at the utter hatred. And there is WAY more of it than defending, from what I've seen.
isn't Spider-Man bigger than supes now
Its not even a competition:Handily. Has been for a good while, particularly worldwide.
I really feel like this thread belongs in the GAF Hall of Fame.
Wow. I like going in with rock bottom expectations.. just got out and me and my wife enjoyed it. I'd give it 7/10, she says about 7.5/10. I liked it better than Age of Ultron.Back to 30% now.
Most people are just joking around at this point.
I mean we had bananafactory in here making about 500 posts about how much it sucked last night.
It's hard to compete with firepower of that magnitude.
Wheres iron man fit on that.Its not even a competition:
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I don't know how you can be shocked at the hatred, even if you liked the movie.
Avengers. Which is also confirmed as a billion dollar merchandise brand now, a lot can change in two yearsWheres iron man fit on that.
No i was wondering like as a stand alone how well he does compared to bats,superman etcAvengers. Which is also confirmed as a billion dollar merchandise brand now, a lot can change in two years
Just 'avin a bit o' banter, m8Most people are just joking around at this point.
I mean we had bananafactory in here making about 500 posts about how much it sucked last night.
It's hard to compete with firepower of that magnitude.
Its not even a competition:
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There's disliking a movie, then there's absolutely SHITTING on it like it's the worst thing you've ever seen, worse than Schumacher Batman (which I've already heard from friends), worse than Man of Steel (WHICH IT AIN'T).
I fully understand why you could dislike this film. The things people object to I just didn't put as much emphasis on while watching the film, and I enjoyed things that others didn't really care about as much.
But the utter, vile HATRED is kinda shocking, yeah.
Wow. I like going in with rock bottom expectations.. just got out and me and my wife enjoyed it. I'd give it 7/10, she says about 7.5/10. I liked it better than Age of Ultron.
Damn. I think the more I ask, the more I need to stop. So, you're saying MoS version fits with this movie AND you like him more here?
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feels like this thread is hilariously following some flow chart.
Movie sucks-> Movie is great-> Better than thor 2-> Better than Ironman 3-> better than Ultron-> better than superman 64 -> Repeat.
Or people just dont like it. Why does it always end in conspiracy theories every review thread for...well anything everI liked AoU "okay." I liked BvS considerably more.
I realize that this is not a popular opinion. Buit I also think people have been waiting 3 years just to shit on BvS no matter what.
Fuck that let's break the loop making this a Spider-Man thread
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Hall of Fame, or Infamy?
Fuck that let's break the loop making this a Spider-Man thread
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Man, you know by now that image is fraudulent
But I also think people have been waiting 3 years just to shit on BvS no matter what.
I liked AoU "okay." I liked BvS considerably more.
I realize that this is not a popular opinion. Buit I also think people have been waiting 3 years just to shit on BvS no matter what.
I don't really see it as that contrived. Yes, Lex engineers the fight between the two, since he's hoping he can get Batman to kill Superman. But the whole lead up to the fight is built very organically, starting with the Metropolis destruction flashbacks, and continuing through Superman being framed for innocent deaths and then Superman attempting to interfere with Bruce's crime-fighting in Gotham.
Wheres iron man fit on that.
Or people just dont like it. Why does it always end in conspiracy theories every review thread for...well anything ever
Fuck that let's break the loop making this a Spider-Man thread
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This is just sad.I liked AoU "okay." I liked BvS considerably more.
I realize that this is not a popular opinion. Buit I also think people have been waiting 3 years just to shit on BvS no matter what.
Progress report: I think I'm halfway through, it's worse than I imagined.
Decided to post here since the official thread is full of DC fanboys that gang up on you like sharks that smell blood whenever you think the movie stinks....
Well I saw it and it stinks....
I mean the only cool parts were Wonder Woman and thebut they were so short that I could have skipped this entire trash movie and just watched the trailers. Like seriously the story is so throwaway.Doomsday fight
At least Man of Steel (which I enjoyed) had some cool fights that lasts more than a couple minutes.