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Check your 5090s- Some Missing ROPs

Celcius

°Temp. member
You may want to update the OP, there are now confirmed issues with cards from multiple manufacturers not just Zotac

 
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GreatnessRD

Member
With everything going on with Blackwell, still gonna be a line around the corner to spend $3500 United Murica dollars on both a 5090 or 5080 w/monitor combo :LOL:
 

Thabass

Member
Just make sure to oc the vram then the 5080 is a fine card.
I haven't done it yet, as I wanted to do some primary testing without an OC, but I'll doing some OC tests soon. I have the MSI Gaming Trio OC Version and it's already providing really good results.
 
This is wild. I'm pretty sure this never happened in the history of GPUs. Some cards (i.e.,) even had locked shader units you could unlock to boost performance, but missing ROPs is an insane oversight.
 
Zotac plebs BTFO

My Suprim has ALL the ROPES.
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Akuji

Member
I haven't done it yet, as I wanted to do some primary testing without an OC, but I'll doing some OC tests soon. I have the MSI Gaming Trio OC Version and it's already providing really good results.
Sure, but not oc the memory just leaves Performance on the table. So look atleast into this.
 
I got those lines too a couple of times too when I plugging in a 2nd display(my 8K QLED) while encoding video files.
I was getting them with different cables, tried using all the different ports and even switched monitors and was still getting them

Sometimes they would be red but always vertical.

Tried reseating it but nothing helped so it went back
 

Ellery

Member
Imagine you were one of those people that bought an RTX 5090 from a scalper for $7200 on StockX and then you game on the Chinese Version 5090D desperately waiting for new games to come out and god heaven you are in the year 2025 of GTA 6 on console release.
 

AFBT88

Member
Why? Nothing is stopping you from buying an AMD or Intel GPU.

RT and FSR/XeSS do. If AMD/Intel can atleast be comparable to Nvidia in those categories, i would buy AMD/Intel. So far they've not been close enough.
It's a joke that both AMD/Intel have no GPU that is close to RTX 4080 in RT after almost 2 and half years! Hopefully 9000 series will be good.
 
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dave_d

Member
According to this video cardz article


Looks like 1/2% of the 5090's are affected plus some of the 5070ti's. Admittedly sounds like I should go with my plan of holding off until May or June and seeing what available. (Admittedly I tend to hold off upgrading my PC around now in part because were I live it's so dry I'm worried I'll zap stuff with a spark of static electricity. It's not a problem once spring rolls around.)
 
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riko

Neo Member
That's why people love it.

Apple was in a rut too for awhile.
This is a bad take. I've run large fully remote and hybrid eng orgs that predate COVID. (I am "old") If you can't properly performance manage remote engineers you won't be able to properly performance manage them in an open floor plan office either. You just give up talent pool for some weird perception of productivity.

All serious tech companies have extremely mature models for per engineer performance. None of it requires seeing a person or nannying how they spend their hours per day. Butts-in-chairs as a measure of performance just doesn't work for top performing orgs, and if your company/manager/middle-manager thinks otherwise... leave :)
 

Elios83

Member
Horrible launch and general situation around the PC GPU market.
But nVidia has reached such a high level of greed and confidence over its monopoly that it might become easier for competitors to strike a blow...hopefully?

This year I need to change my 2018 notebook and I was thinking to buy something with a mobile 5080 but at this point I don't know what to expect, I'm definitely not going to spend 4000$ on it..let's see reviews and what I can buy with a 2500$ budget.
 
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StereoVsn

Gold Member
Horrible launch and general situation around the PC GPU market.
But nVidia has reached such a high level of greed and confidence over its monopoly that it might become easier for competitors to strike a blow...hopefully?

This year I need to change my 2018 notebook and I was thinking to buy something with a mobile 5080 but at this point I don't know what to expect, I'm definitely not going to spend 4000$ on it..let's see reviews and what I can buy with a 2500$ budget.
Some of the 4080 laptops seem to be on sale. Those at least have 12GB VRAM.
 

riko

Neo Member
According to this video cardz article


Looks like 1/2% of the 5090's are affected plus some of the 5070ti's. Admittedly sounds like I should go with my plan of holding off until May or June and seeing what available. (Admittedly I tend to hold off upgrading my PC around now in part because were I live it's so dry I'm worried I'll zap stuff with a spark of static electricity. It's not a problem once spring rolls around.)

0.5% is a crazy high rate of error at this scale. Clearly they've cut corners to further juice margins on the non-datacenter hardware (where they earn their serious cash) and this is disappointing. They'll fix it and everyone will move on, time (and cost to make board partners whole who do the RMAs) will tell whether they learn the right lesson from this.
 

s_mirage

Member
Unless the BIOS/drivers are designed to silently disable the broken ROPs, how exactly are they reported as missing rather than being present but causing corruption and/or crashes? I'm just slightly suspicious that given low availability, and assumedly low yields, partially broken chips have been knowingly shipped with the hope that no-one notices.

I have trouble believing that these just slipped into the supply chain unnoticed.
 
Unless the BIOS/drivers are designed to silently disable the broken ROPs, how exactly are they reported as missing rather than being present but causing corruption and/or crashes? I'm just slightly suspicious that given low availability, and assumedly low yields, partially broken chips have been knowingly shipped with the hope that no-one notices.

I have trouble believing that these just slipped into the supply chain unnoticed.

The ROPs are fused off. It's a binning mistake.
 
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