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Dr Disrespect signs with Rumble

FoxMcChief

Gold Member
They certainly know their audience lmao.
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Sounds like a good fit for him then. Just got to wonder if Matt Gaetz will be right behind him.
Gaetz turned down a cameo for Tim Dillon, so he must not be too worried about money. That whole segment on Dillon's podcast was so funny, btw.
Pretty sure Rumble's MAUs to YouTube actually compare slightly better than Bluesky to X.
 
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He screwed up, and I'm not going to defend the guy for his actions, but it's not like he promotes creepy shit on his streams. The kind of stuff Rumble is known for allowing is more like election integrity and big pharma stuff that YouTube shuts down. I don't know if it's the best idea for Rumble as far as optics, but I'd like to see it bring more gaming content over to the platform for sure.
He has screwed up multiple times that we know of, he is a horrible human with a shitty moral compass
 

PeteBull

Member
What exactly is being censored, show me the receipts bro



Or the folks who find it despicable that you're sending inappropriate texts to a minor when you're married and have a child?

Get real man. This is not a good person.
I dont care about Dr Disrespekt, never watched him altho he is so popular i know who he is- rich af streamer, but thats kinda it(controversial too but who cares, i dont wantch him so dont care ;p), but about yt censorship, its known worldwide, many channels got either banned or monetisation removed, they mention it themselfs, i can tell u what i saw, and telling truth about feminism is considered highest degree of crime, content creators either get banned/demonetised or have to use camouflaged word salad to describe this stuff.
Being antifemist myself i had to go to rumble to see some of the content i couldnt see on yt.

About censorship alltogether- my stance is simple- every human being has free will, and especially if u put those vids at 18+ every1 should have opportunity to talk/share their opinion- if its stupid its super easy to tell , if it makes sense ppl will agree/learn from it, 18yo can have sex, get a student loan that can screw their life for a decade or two, can get married, can get drafted, can drive a car, can own a gun and do 100 other things, but somehow higher ups think 18yo ppl arent smart enough to listen or not listen to some rando on the net, they gotta ban that rando guy coz godforbid ppl will understand and support what the person is saying, and we ofc cant have that ;)
 

MiguelItUp

Member
I'm not going to defend what Doc did, because what he did is not defendable at all. However, calling him a pedo, is a bit of a stretch. He sent some inappropriate texts to a 17 year old (17 is a legal age in some parts of the States, which is also fucked up). Also, it happened like seven years ago, which I believe was around the time of the incident with his wife. I'm sure she already knew since him and Twitch settled years ago. The man fucked up and he did not do a good job of owning up to it. He should have never said anything and let his lawyers handle it until he absolutely needed to say something. You think these millionaire streamers would hire a PR person when shit goes sideways.
The whole "confirmation" that the girl was 17 was confirmed as BS. So, no one really knows IF she was or wasn't. All that was confirmed is that it was a minor, which is more than enough to be labeled disgusting, gross, etc. Also, to have a family and to screw up more than once in front of thousands of people is pretty damn stupid, lol.
 

RedC

Member
Because they stayed away from the stuff our government was stopping them from saying. I'm not some Rumble stan or anything. I don't watch stuff there much at all, but alternative places are a good thing, IMO.
Oh competition is definitely a good thing. I'm not knocking rumble or any other alternative site.

It's just I've seen too many of these content creators go too far with what they were saying/doing, warned about it, continued, and whine later after being demonitized and/or banned.
 
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Boo Who?

Neo Member
The whole "confirmation" that the girl was 17 was confirmed as BS. So, no one really knows IF she was or wasn't. All that was confirmed is that it was a minor, which is more than enough to be labeled disgusting, gross, etc. Also, to have a family and to screw up more than once in front of thousands of people is pretty damn stupid, lol.
Again, not defending it at all. Game streamers are so tired anyway. I'd rather spend my YouTube time with guitar content or Pat McAfee (my kind of knucklehead).
 

PeteBull

Member
Again, not defending it at all. Game streamers are so tired anyway. I'd rather spend my YouTube time with guitar content or Pat McAfee (my kind of knucklehead).
I have my fav polish streamer, he has tiny amount of subs, so actually viewers can have convos with him, even w/o donations, and he talks about lots of life stuff while playing/streaming(not politics tho, which is a plus since it only triggers ppl ;)
Basically cozy small population stream 2-3times/week w/o being comercialised like all the big streamer mofos :)
 

MMaRsu

Member
Kind of fake news here... the thing with the Twitch DMs to the minor was contemporaneous with cheating on his wife with ladies and trannies alike. You're trying to make it sound like he apologized for the one thing and then went and did the other which just isn't the case (so far as we know). If you think he should have explicitly apologized for that particular text and/or you wouldn't forgive him for it, that's your prerogative of course.

Him cheating on his wife and sending txt dm's to a possible minor are two separate things tho?

I think he actually had sex with somebody else when he stated he cheated on her.
 
Him cheating on his wife and sending txt dm's to a possible minor are two separate things tho?

I think he actually had sex with somebody else when he stated he cheated on her.
And I said it's your right to not watch him over that. So, what is your point? I'm just addressing the inaccurate timeline you laid out.

Actual timeline:

Doc blows up playing things like H1Z1 and later PUBG ca. 2016-2017 -- this is where the cheating happens. This is also when he texts this minor... we don't know what he actually texted though. Despite a lot of fanfic here of this person being 17, I don't think the age is actually publicly known.

Dec 2017 he apologies on stream for cheating on his wife as I presume it was getting out there and public. Presumably he also apologized to his wife privately and obviously we don't know the details. It doesn't seem likely that we know the true extent of his cheating, just the times he was called out publicly.

Feb 2018 he returns to Twitch after taking time off with his family.

Sometime in 2020 Twitch bans him after an employee ignores Twitch policy and digs up the DMs from 2017 and escalates it past the normal enforcement procedures in order to get Doc banned. This is then litigated over the next year or two until Twitch agrees to pay out the entirety of Doc's contract with neither party admitting wrongdoing. It's possible this is where his wife becomes aware of whatever these texts were, or maybe he came clean about everything in Dec 2017. We don't really know.

And then in 2024, disgruntled ex-Twitch guy, after teasing the scandal in a sad attempt to sell tickets for his shitty band finally made the 'sexting a minor' accusation public. Doc disputes the categorization of 'sexting' and claims whatever he said didn't rise to the legal definition of 'sexting'.

But you claim that Doc made a tearful apology and then went out and did something even worse! Which isn't true, as it all happened before the apology, and maybe you just got confused because 2024 is when you became aware of more bad behavior.

From Doc's perspective, at the end of 2017 he pays a huge personal price when some of his conduct comes to light. Then after, in his eyes, becoming a better person, that same period of his life that he and his wife had put behind them came back again and did serious damage to his career, sure he got the Twitch payout, but I'm sure the lawyers took a cut, and his Twitch contract isn't going to include all the subs and sponsors he lost. YouTube just plain isn't as lucrative as Twitch for streaming.

Then he gets re-cancelled again in 2024 for the same thing. Once again losing professional contacts, sponsors, and now YouTube monetization. So, it's not particularly surprising that Doc is combative at this point.

To reiterate, your characterization was "After the video where he came clean about cheating on his wife, I also absolutely thought he learned from that experience." As far as I'm aware there have been no accusations of cheating or sexting after that point. He's still with his wife and it seems like those issues are behind them at least as far as the public is aware. So, what reason do you have to think he didn't learn from that experience?
 

AGRacing

Member
And I said it's your right to not watch him over that. So, what is your point? I'm just addressing the inaccurate timeline you laid out.

Actual timeline:

Doc blows up playing things like H1Z1 and later PUBG ca. 2016-2017 -- this is where the cheating happens. This is also when he texts this minor... we don't know what he actually texted though. Despite a lot of fanfic here of this person being 17, I don't think the age is actually publicly known.

Dec 2017 he apologies on stream for cheating on his wife as I presume it was getting out there and public. Presumably he also apologized to his wife privately and obviously we don't know the details. It doesn't seem likely that we know the true extent of his cheating, just the times he was called out publicly.

Feb 2018 he returns to Twitch after taking time off with his family.

Sometime in 2020 Twitch bans him after an employee ignores Twitch policy and digs up the DMs from 2017 and escalates it past the normal enforcement procedures in order to get Doc banned. This is then litigated over the next year or two until Twitch agrees to pay out the entirety of Doc's contract with neither party admitting wrongdoing. It's possible this is where his wife becomes aware of whatever these texts were, or maybe he came clean about everything in Dec 2017. We don't really know.

And then in 2024, disgruntled ex-Twitch guy, after teasing the scandal in a sad attempt to sell tickets for his shitty band finally made the 'sexting a minor' accusation public. Doc disputes the categorization of 'sexting' and claims whatever he said didn't rise to the legal definition of 'sexting'.

But you claim that Doc made a tearful apology and then went out and did something even worse! Which isn't true, as it all happened before the apology, and maybe you just got confused because 2024 is when you became aware of more bad behavior.

From Doc's perspective, at the end of 2017 he pays a huge personal price when some of his conduct comes to light. Then after, in his eyes, becoming a better person, that same period of his life that he and his wife had put behind them came back again and did serious damage to his career, sure he got the Twitch payout, but I'm sure the lawyers took a cut, and his Twitch contract isn't going to include all the subs and sponsors he lost. YouTube just plain isn't as lucrative as Twitch for streaming.

Then he gets re-cancelled again in 2024 for the same thing. Once again losing professional contacts, sponsors, and now YouTube monetization. So, it's not particularly surprising that Doc is combative at this point.

To reiterate, your characterization was "After the video where he came clean about cheating on his wife, I also absolutely thought he learned from that experience." As far as I'm aware there have been no accusations of cheating or sexting after that point. He's still with his wife and it seems like those issues are behind them at least as far as the public is aware. So, what reason do you have to think he didn't learn from that experience?
All this armchair moralizing is being committed by men who’ve NEVER and will NEVER even have a WHIFF of the kind of fame (and associated power) that Dr. DisRespect has achieved in this space. This is one of the most difficult tests for any human being - any man - to pass. And he has achieved the forgiveness of his family , has learned and is moving forward.

It’s public virtue signalling against a man in a situation they don’t fully understand or care to. There were no charges anyone was harmed outside his own family. This guy made terrible mistakes and was probably saved from doing worse. We should celebrate that he’s been rescued from that and is continuing in the right direction with that family. Have a little self awareness that while we’d all LIKE to think we’d be perfect if we were rich and famous tomorrow… many of us unfortunately wouldn’t be. I hope he continues to do well and grow as a human being like we all should.
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I dont care about Dr Disrespekt, never watched him altho he is so popular i know who he is- rich af streamer, but thats kinda it(controversial too but who cares, i dont wantch him so dont care ;p), but about yt censorship, its known worldwide, many channels got either banned or monetisation removed, they mention it themselfs, i can tell u what i saw, and telling truth about feminism is considered highest degree of crime, content creators either get banned/demonetised or have to use camouflaged word salad to describe this stuff.
Being antifemist myself i had to go to rumble to see some of the content i couldnt see on yt.

About censorship alltogether- my stance is simple- every human being has free will, and especially if u put those vids at 18+ every1 should have opportunity to talk/share their opinion- if its stupid its super easy to tell , if it makes sense ppl will agree/learn from it, 18yo can have sex, get a student loan that can screw their life for a decade or two, can get married, can get drafted, can drive a car, can own a gun and do 100 other things, but somehow higher ups think 18yo ppl arent smart enough to listen or not listen to some rando on the net, they gotta ban that rando guy coz godforbid ppl will understand and support what the person is saying, and we ofc cant have that ;)

The thing about cancel culture is that people are being canceled not so much because what those people say is so inherently dangerous. It's because a ton of people don't want to be associated with garbage people with garbage opinions. For example, advertisers. Advertisers don't want their products associated with garbage. Also, platform owners. They don't want their service associated with garbage. Then there's content creators. A bunch of them don't want to be associated with garbage. Then there's the users. A ton of users don't want to frequent a platform that peddles garbage.

So, you have all these interested parties agreeing that they don't want to be associated with the stink of garbage. And boom, deplatforming. We could call it cancel culture, but a better word for it is consequences. Or cause and effect. Or finding out.

Freedom of speech doesn't guarantee that people will listen and it certainly doesn't guarantee that private entities need to help you amplify your message.
 

OuterLimits

Member
It's been a good streaming site for certain people who were unfairly demonetized after the 2020 election season.

This is true. In fact, a particular political individual in 2022/23 had to release their Video policy positions pretty much exclusively on Rumble because they were still banned pretty much everywhere. Granted, I don't want to get into politics of course, but apparently this individual won a rather high ranking position a couple weeks ago in an election.

I think some journalists like Glenn Greenwald moved to Rumble after censorship on Youtube.
 
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Unknown?

Member
Which censorship exactly? Can you point me to examples and receipts?




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I feel people like you and others pretending to not have heard of it are being disingenuous.

If you really aren't aware of YouTube being part of the censorship industrial complex then you are living under a rock.

YouTube became shit around 2012, it is now corporate tube and propaganda tube.
 
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Calico345

Gold Member
And I said it's your right to not watch him over that. So, what is your point? I'm just addressing the inaccurate timeline you laid out.

Actual timeline:

Doc blows up playing things like H1Z1 and later PUBG ca. 2016-2017 -- this is where the cheating happens. This is also when he texts this minor... we don't know what he actually texted though. Despite a lot of fanfic here of this person being 17, I don't think the age is actually publicly known.

Dec 2017 he apologies on stream for cheating on his wife as I presume it was getting out there and public. Presumably he also apologized to his wife privately and obviously we don't know the details. It doesn't seem likely that we know the true extent of his cheating, just the times he was called out publicly.

Feb 2018 he returns to Twitch after taking time off with his family.

Sometime in 2020 Twitch bans him after an employee ignores Twitch policy and digs up the DMs from 2017 and escalates it past the normal enforcement procedures in order to get Doc banned. This is then litigated over the next year or two until Twitch agrees to pay out the entirety of Doc's contract with neither party admitting wrongdoing. It's possible this is where his wife becomes aware of whatever these texts were, or maybe he came clean about everything in Dec 2017. We don't really know.

And then in 2024, disgruntled ex-Twitch guy, after teasing the scandal in a sad attempt to sell tickets for his shitty band finally made the 'sexting a minor' accusation public. Doc disputes the categorization of 'sexting' and claims whatever he said didn't rise to the legal definition of 'sexting'.

But you claim that Doc made a tearful apology and then went out and did something even worse! Which isn't true, as it all happened before the apology, and maybe you just got confused because 2024 is when you became aware of more bad behavior.

From Doc's perspective, at the end of 2017 he pays a huge personal price when some of his conduct comes to light. Then after, in his eyes, becoming a better person, that same period of his life that he and his wife had put behind them came back again and did serious damage to his career, sure he got the Twitch payout, but I'm sure the lawyers took a cut, and his Twitch contract isn't going to include all the subs and sponsors he lost. YouTube just plain isn't as lucrative as Twitch for streaming.

Then he gets re-cancelled again in 2024 for the same thing. Once again losing professional contacts, sponsors, and now YouTube monetization. So, it's not particularly surprising that Doc is combative at this point.

To reiterate, your characterization was "After the video where he came clean about cheating on his wife, I also absolutely thought he learned from that experience." As far as I'm aware there have been no accusations of cheating or sexting after that point. He's still with his wife and it seems like those issues are behind them at least as far as the public is aware. So, what reason do you have to think he didn't learn from that experience?

Imagine typing all of that about a piece of crap like Dr. Dipshit.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
And I said it's your right to not watch him over that. So, what is your point? I'm just addressing the inaccurate timeline you laid out.

Actual timeline:

Doc blows up playing things like H1Z1 and later PUBG ca. 2016-2017 -- this is where the cheating happens. This is also when he texts this minor... we don't know what he actually texted though. Despite a lot of fanfic here of this person being 17, I don't think the age is actually publicly known.

Dec 2017 he apologies on stream for cheating on his wife as I presume it was getting out there and public. Presumably he also apologized to his wife privately and obviously we don't know the details. It doesn't seem likely that we know the true extent of his cheating, just the times he was called out publicly.

Feb 2018 he returns to Twitch after taking time off with his family.

Sometime in 2020 Twitch bans him after an employee ignores Twitch policy and digs up the DMs from 2017 and escalates it past the normal enforcement procedures in order to get Doc banned. This is then litigated over the next year or two until Twitch agrees to pay out the entirety of Doc's contract with neither party admitting wrongdoing. It's possible this is where his wife becomes aware of whatever these texts were, or maybe he came clean about everything in Dec 2017. We don't really know.

And then in 2024, disgruntled ex-Twitch guy, after teasing the scandal in a sad attempt to sell tickets for his shitty band finally made the 'sexting a minor' accusation public. Doc disputes the categorization of 'sexting' and claims whatever he said didn't rise to the legal definition of 'sexting'.

But you claim that Doc made a tearful apology and then went out and did something even worse! Which isn't true, as it all happened before the apology, and maybe you just got confused because 2024 is when you became aware of more bad behavior.

From Doc's perspective, at the end of 2017 he pays a huge personal price when some of his conduct comes to light. Then after, in his eyes, becoming a better person, that same period of his life that he and his wife had put behind them came back again and did serious damage to his career, sure he got the Twitch payout, but I'm sure the lawyers took a cut, and his Twitch contract isn't going to include all the subs and sponsors he lost. YouTube just plain isn't as lucrative as Twitch for streaming.

Then he gets re-cancelled again in 2024 for the same thing. Once again losing professional contacts, sponsors, and now YouTube monetization. So, it's not particularly surprising that Doc is combative at this point.

To reiterate, your characterization was "After the video where he came clean about cheating on his wife, I also absolutely thought he learned from that experience." As far as I'm aware there have been no accusations of cheating or sexting after that point. He's still with his wife and it seems like those issues are behind them at least as far as the public is aware. So, what reason do you have to think he didn't learn from that experience?
Is that you Doc?
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PeteBull

Member
The thing about cancel culture is that people are being canceled not so much because what those people say is so inherently dangerous. It's because a ton of people don't want to be associated with garbage people with garbage opinions. For example, advertisers. Advertisers don't want their products associated with garbage. Also, platform owners. They don't want their service associated with garbage. Then there's content creators. A bunch of them don't want to be associated with garbage. Then there's the users. A ton of users don't want to frequent a platform that peddles garbage.

So, you have all these interested parties agreeing that they don't want to be associated with the stink of garbage. And boom, deplatforming. We could call it cancel culture, but a better word for it is consequences. Or cause and effect. Or finding out.

Freedom of speech doesn't guarantee that people will listen and it certainly doesn't guarantee that private entities need to help you amplify your message.
U could have garbage ppl, and u could have rightwing/antifemenism/antileftists too, what im saying every1 of those gets deplatformed, not just "garbage" ppl.

U got different view than standard one and that is it- hence value of platforms like rumble, u can say literally anything there, and owner of the platform wont deplatform u, even if he strongly diseagrees with u.
Diversity of opinions is what builds society, not ur woke "DEI" when ppl focus on colour or what is between some1 legs, same way in gaming diversity should mean different genres/different aproaches/different story/gameplay, not just putting women(when it comes to western studio its often ugly/old women only ;) or ppl who arent white, that is fake diversity imho :)

Western "mainstream" is skewed so leftists now than even CNN back from the 90s would be considered misogonists now, as proof look at their vid about this particular game and think how it would look now:

Spoilers- nowadays it would be hitpiece asking "concered" questions where are women and poc among the devs, and why there is no diversity in the game, ofc very likely words like chuds and incels would be used too, and game would get blamed for how bad modern men are and why they dont wanna work hard and marry western women :)
 

MMaRsu

Member
I feel people like you and others pretending to not have heard of it are being disingenuous.

If you really aren't aware of YouTube being part of the censorship industrial complex then you are living under a rock.

YouTube became shit around 2012, it is now corporate tube and propaganda tube.

Sorry man but personally I watch a lot of gaming videos. I tend to stay away from politics, especially american politics as I'm not american.
I also didn't go into a rabbit hole about COVID and vaccinations, regardless what you think of that.

So from my personal opinion, I haven't seen a lot of censorship. Ofcourse you can say how could you see it, if its censored you cant see it (thats true lol).

But how is it corporate tube and propaganda tube? Only if you go out looking for that type of shit content.
I watch generally gaming related content, and none of that gets censored. I watch Redlettermedia.

What annoys me is you cant say fuck etc anymore or swear, because your video will get demonitized. Now that does suck
 

Unknown?

Member
Sorry man but personally I watch a lot of gaming videos. I tend to stay away from politics, especially american politics as I'm not american.
I also didn't go into a rabbit hole about COVID and vaccinations, regardless what you think of that.

So from my personal opinion, I haven't seen a lot of censorship. Ofcourse you can say how could you see it, if its censored you cant see it (thats true lol).

But how is it corporate tube and propaganda tube? Only if you go out looking for that type of shit content.
I watch generally gaming related content, and none of that gets censored. I watch Redlettermedia.

What annoys me is you cant say fuck etc anymore or swear, because your video will get demonitized. Now that does suck
Fair enough but it's corporate tube because it promotes corporate content over individual content. IGN will always rank higher on the algorithm than someone with 100 followers.
 

Toons

Member
Sorry man but personally I watch a lot of gaming videos. I tend to stay away from politics, especially american politics as I'm not american.
I also didn't go into a rabbit hole about COVID and vaccinations, regardless what you think of that.

So from my personal opinion, I haven't seen a lot of censorship. Ofcourse you can say how could you see it, if its censored you cant see it (thats true lol).

But how is it corporate tube and propaganda tube? Only if you go out looking for that type of shit content.
I watch generally gaming related content, and none of that gets censored. I watch Redlettermedia.

What annoys me is you cant say fuck etc anymore or swear, because your video will get demonitized. Now that does suck

People are conflating demonetization with censorship. As I alluded to earlier they are absolutely not the same thing.

Certain words and phrases can get tired video demonetized, probably becayse youtube wants to cover their ass in theoretical lawsuits that could come up if someone claims they directly fund/bankroll offensive content.

However, getting a video taken down/removed is considerably difficult to actually do on YouTube on your own(one exception to this is copyright strikes, which are notoriously awful and exploitatable). Getting your whole CHANNEL taken down is even harder. You have to be outright making terroristic/hateful threats, showcasing, promoting, or participating in pedophilia, and other things of that nature most of the time.

90% of the time, content will just see demonetization. Which nearly any YouTube whos even slightly relevant can get around by having their video sponsored/selling merchandise. There is a reason doctor disrespect, and several other channels with his similar perspective, continue to exist and thrive on YouTube.
 

OuterLimits

Member
I feel people like you and others pretending to not have heard of it are being disingenuous.

If you really aren't aware of YouTube being part of the censorship industrial complex then you are living under a rock.

YouTube became shit around 2012, it is now corporate tube and propaganda tube.

Yep. It got much worse during Covid when censorship was off the charts.

It wasn't merely morons saying "vaccines have microchips in them" and other wild shit getting banned either.

1.). Merely pointing out the virus may have been a lab leak got you banned. A novel virus appearing in Wuhan in the very city where a lab was doing gain of function research on that very virus was somehow 100% impossible and conspiracy theory. Nope, it had to be naturally occurring and somebody likely ate bat soup of course.

2.). Scientists going against the consensus on the response to Covid like lockdowns, masking, school closures were immediately banned on YouTube and elsewhere. Nevermind they had extensive education and previously highly respected within their field. Just ban them and in many cases fire them from Universities and even go after medical licenses. This is a horrific way for science to operate. Occasionally those in the 5% outside the accepted current consensus end up being correct. We absolutely want scientific debate and not people being silenced.
 

Ceadeus

Member
I've been to rumble on once and not only the video choice are extremely limited but I had to go through four ad on my very first video, back to back. FOUR.

Like, that's how you welcome the newcomers? Jebus Christmas, never again, see ya.
 
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