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[ChorizoPicozo]

Maybe. But it definitely wasn't totally unacceptable, nor did it kill art.

"maybe"

guys.... he believes pronouns made BG3 successful.

 

[adamsapple]

"maybe"

guys.... he believes pronouns made BG3 successful.

You are a special one chorizo

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

You are a special one chorizo

im not binary, i just said it.

 

[EviLore]

”Ok, you are trans. I can’t say I really understand, but I love you as my child and I will try to support you.”

There, Elon, I fixed your life for you.

Mothers should be supportive. Fathers should tell the truth.

If not fathers, then no one will.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Bro, he had 12 kids already, 1 died so 11 official ones(and likely many more that are kept on the down low), he has that fk u money, he can have 50 more or w/e number of kids he likes, and give them all lavish lifestyle(again if he wants, i remember reading one time he had disagreement with one of his baby mama's and took court to a state where child support isnt based on wealth, and only had to give her some pocket change money ;p).

There is this thing, and its deeply rooted in all women, called hypergamy, it means they wanna secure best possible mate even if it means they have to share that top G with other women.
Guess who is at the top of the food chain , and u think he has any bitch trying to withold sex for compliance like avg husband has on a daily basis ...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...mothers-including-report-101730249079268.html (info is legit, even in NY Times but behind account log in so posted link to different site).

Ok, that sure seems like something someone successful with women would focus on, and I am sure it can come in handy for people thinking of kids like pawns on a chess board.

Anyhow, Elons relationship with his one trans kid seemed to shaken him up pretty badly.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Mothers should be supportive. Fathers should tell the truth.

If not fathers, then no one will.

Nothing says mothers wont, and nothing says fathers can’t be supportive as well.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

There is this thing, and its deeply rooted in all women, called hypergamy, it means they wanna secure best possible mate even if it means they have to share that top G with other women.

100% true.

Not going to retread my online dating stories again, but let's just say that when a bunch of us at work were all on it or some married people were interested in what we were talking about and joined in, all women except one wanted their BF or husband to make $100k or more. Or else no match. The odd woman out still wanted their man to make at least the 75-100k bracket (Match.com use to have income brackets). So pretty close. And no shame too. They'd openly just say they dont want to be broke or have the guy make less than them using their money. It was funny how non chalant they were about admitting that like it's a norm.

No guys brought up minimum money once. We all collectively seemed to agree as long as she is working at a job and not sitting around all day thats good enough.

It's an odd thing. Whether it's born instincts or learned as a kid.... men are more self sufficient and will earn their way out, while women prefer the security of a mate with money.

 

[midnightAI]

Reading briefly even the tweet is clearly says they are comparing the number of GAMES to the number of GAMERS, which is ridiculous. Apples to oranges much?

Absolutely, it's when they try to make one set of figures correlate to another set of figures when they just don't directly, politicians are usually good (well, bad) at that also.

 

[ZiggyPop1991]

The way people went and changed the real meaning of woke "woke" is the real issues cringe worthy take. It's starting to sound like a slur now that people are using to refer to anything that doesn't fit their life bubble. Anyways, if these things truly make people turn off a game and rant about it online. We have bigger issues in this world than the person who added pronouns. Things like this have never made me do all of this, lol. Disregard everything else fun about the game to rant about some damn pronouns?

 

[midnightAI]

didn't realize that his comment were directly around Avowed..... that dame is so damn cooked. It's going to be interesting how MS's marketing (which we all know is very incompetent) it's going to deal with it

I don't think many will care to be honest, it's all being blown out of proportion from what I can see. It's also on gamepass so we can all try it ourselves for 'free' if you own an Xbox/have gamepass (and there is no excuse because your toaster is an Xbox)

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I don't think many will care to be honest, it's all being blown out of proportion from what I can see. It's also on gamepass so we can all try it ourselves for 'free' if you own an Xbox/have gamepass.

"Game Pass To The Rescue"

 

[DonF]

im not against choices, if the character creator allows you to change pronouns, so be it. Im going full on cis on this shit. But to force that stuff, like dragon age and its cringe worthy dialogs and quests, fuck that.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

im not against choices, if the character creator allows you to change pronouns, so be it. Im going full on cis on this shit. But to force that stuff, like dragon age and its cringe worthy dialogs and quests, fuck that.

Thats the thing. Nobody knows to what extent Avowed will be on the political train yet.

It can be as little as pronouns in the character bio and that's it. Or it can be lectures and cutscenes and quests based on identity this or that. Or further, the character creation screen purposely being gimped big boobs because the devs dont like women with big chests.

But where there's smoke there's fire. We'll have to wait and see. It can be a small campfire quickly put out, or an all week forest fire.

 

[midnightAI]

"Game Pass To The Rescue"

In this case, yes, potentially.

If loads of people play it and it really is just a fuss about nothing then word will spread that it's not full of woke ideologies. Of course, if it is full of it then, yes, it could go the other way. But at the moment loads of people are up in arms about just pronouns, which to me at least, is a complete non-issue.

I also don't personally see the issue with type A/type B body types either. It can say Male/Female, or it can say Type A/Type B, I really don't care.

 

[HJuggernaut]

Unrelated but it seems stellar blade is releasing the uncensored version of the outfits due to gamers raising their voices, this is a positive step.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

In this case, yes, potentially.

If loads of people play it and it really is just a fuss about nothing then word will spread that it's not full of woke ideologies. Of course, if it is full of it then, yes, it could go the other way. But at the moment loads of people are up in arms about just pronouns, which to me at least, is a complete non-issue.

even without this drama, Avowed is destined to fail (game pass being a big factor)

Game Pass (Smaller game, niche audience,no marketing,dead platform)

the issue is not the pronouns, but the ideology behind it.

and fortunately, these kind of people in position of power are delivering subpar products.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Mothers should be supportive. Fathers should tell the truth.

If not fathers, then no one will.

Dropping your load in a chick doesn't make you a father. Elon sees children as products, dude has 12 of them with half a dozen different women. Very unlikely he is effective father to any of them.

 

[Krathoon]

I totally would not want to work for Elon Musk. The guy is a robot. He is not normal at all.

 

[EviLore]

Dropping your load in a chick doesn't make you a father. Elon sees children as products, dude has 12 of them with half a dozen different women. Very unlikely he is effective father to any of them.

He brings little X everywhere with him, even to meetings with heads of state.

 

[Matsuchezz]

it’s funny how the tune has changed now that MS game studios are caught in the Woke wagon. And now it’s forgivable. What was it? Go Woke and go broke. Fucking hypocrites.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

it’s funny how the tune has changed now that MS game studios are caught in the Woke wagon. And now it’s forgivable. What was it? Go Woke and go broke. Fucking hypocrites.

How is MS being brushed off as ok?

Avowed has a single pronoun pic and over the weekend got 12 pages worth already.

Other games got grilled to high heaven due to gameplay, DEI characters, cringey cut scenes and bad reviews to boot.

 

[midnightAI]

even without this drama, Avowed is destined to fail (game pass being a big factor)

Game Pass (Smaller game, niche audience,no marketing,dead platform)

the issue is not the pronouns, but the ideology behind it.

and fortunately, these kind of people in position of power are delivering subpar products.

Well that's what's killed plenty of games with woke ideologies, it's not really that they are woke, it's just that they are bad games or at the very least extremely average. Don't get me wrong, go overly woke and you can alienate a lot of players, but that's not what we are talking about here (yet)

 

[Matsuchezz]

How is MS being brushed off as ok?

Avowed has a single pronoun pic and over the weekend got 12 pages worth already.

Other games got grilled to high heaven due to gameplay, DEI characters, cringey cut scenes and bad reviews to boot.

Pronouns are one of the most stupid shit outhere. That promote stupid ideas from the mentally ill. They are backing this shit by including it in games. And i have read a few comments in this thread that this shit is ok and doesn’t bother them.

 

[Humdinger]

How is MS being brushed off as ok?

Avowed has a single pronoun pic and over the weekend got 12 pages worth already.

23 if you count both threads.

even without this drama, Avowed is destined to fail (game pass being a big factor)

Game Pass (Smaller game, niche audience,no marketing,dead platform)

They could release to Playstation, eventually. That might help.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

They could release to Playstation, eventually. That might help.

they will. but it's not going to sell 10M

 

[Humdinger]

they will. but it's not going to sell 10M

No, probably not.

 

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Mothers should be supportive. Fathers should tell the truth.

If not fathers, then no one will.

Actually explains a lot man. We got an entire generation here that grew up without Fathers thus, nobody was there to tell them the truth. It's a damn tragedy in some ways.

 

[BattleScar]

My point exactly. One of the best games ever made was made under communism. Thanks EviLore!

The text you've provided presents a rebuttal to various criticisms of Elon Musk’s companies and includes arguments meant to counter claims of bias, fraud, political manipulation, and unfair business practices. Upon examination, the text presents a clear defense of Musk's companies and practices. While the tone and approach aim to correct misconceptions, certain aspects of the argument might show potential bias, especially in the way that certain criticisms are addressed and countered. Here's a breakdown of where bias might be present:

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You said:

NeoGAF member and resident far-left political commentator who can't help himself but to break the rules at every opportunity, SF Kosmo, responded to your rebuttal as follows:

"You're conveniently editing out the second half of my sentence. Yes, a few of Elon's companies make actual stuff that works (as well as several that don't and are fraudulent), but they don't make their profits by selling that stuff to people for a profit, they make money through government contracts and subsidies, i.e. your tax money.And then he uses that money for political capture, so there's is this circular relationship between his money and his control of the government that pays him.When people talk about the robber barons of the early 20th century and their massive corruption, they're talking about exactly this."

As before, please provide a full rebuttal if you believe his claims to be false.

ChatGPT said:​

SF Kosmo’s statement brings up several points worth addressing. Here’s a full rebuttal to clarify misconceptions and provide a nuanced response:

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1. "Elon's companies don't make profits by selling stuff to people for a profit."​

This claim is demonstrably false for several of Musk’s companies:

Tesla:​

• Tesla's profitability primarily comes from selling electric vehicles (EVs), energy storage systems, and solar products to consumers and businesses.
• As of 2024, Tesla is one of the most profitable automakers globally, with consistent growth in both vehicle production and sales.
• While Tesla has historically benefited from regulatory credits (which all automakers are eligible for), these credits are a diminishing part of Tesla's revenue. The majority of Tesla’s profits now come from vehicle sales and services.

SpaceX:​

• SpaceX generates revenue through commercial satellite launches, Starlink subscriptions, and contracts with private entities. These represent significant portions of its income.
• While government contracts (e.g., NASA) are a substantial revenue source, they are a standard industry practice in aerospace. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and others also rely heavily on government contracts—this is how the sector operates, not a uniquely Musk phenomenon.

Starlink:​

• Starlink is a commercial product serving millions of subscribers globally, with revenue from consumer internet subscriptions.

Other Ventures:​

• The Boring Company earns revenue through tunnel construction projects and consumer products. Its income sources are private and municipal, not solely government-based.

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2. "They make money through government contracts and subsidies, i.e., your tax money."​

This statement misrepresents government contracts and subsidies as inherently negative or fraudulent.

Government Contracts:​

• Contracts with SpaceX (e.g., for NASA missions or military satellite launches) are earned competitively through bidding processes. SpaceX’s cost-effective technologies have saved taxpayers billions compared to traditional aerospace providers.
• Government contracts are not handouts but payments for services rendered. SpaceX, for example, successfully performs critical tasks like ferrying astronauts to the ISS—tasks previously outsourced at much higher costs to Russia.

Subsidies and Incentives:​

• Subsidies for Tesla have included tax incentives for EV buyers, which are offered to all automakers producing EVs—not just Tesla. Tesla was simply better positioned to capitalize on them early.
• Tesla no longer qualifies for many subsidies because it has surpassed production caps, a sign of its success in the private market.
• EV subsidies align with national priorities like reducing greenhouse gas emissions, meaning their intent is to foster public benefit, not to favor a specific company.

Comparison to Competitors:​

• Government support for SpaceX and Tesla is no different than subsidies received by legacy automakers, oil companies, and traditional aerospace firms, which have long benefited from substantial taxpayer support.
• Boeing, for instance, has received far more in government funding than SpaceX. Why single out Musk for criticism when this is industry standard?

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3. "He uses that money for political capture."​

The accusation of “political capture” lacks substantial evidence:

Elon Musk’s Political Influence:​

• Musk has publicly expressed political views, sometimes controversially, but this is not unique among billionaires or corporate leaders.
• The accusation implies improper conduct, yet there is no concrete evidence Musk is uniquely corrupt or uses his money in ways distinct from other major business leaders lobbying for their interests.

Reality of Lobbying:​

• Lobbying for favorable policies is standard for any major industry player. Musk’s lobbying efforts for renewable energy, space exploration funding, or EV subsidies align with broader societal goals, such as combating climate change or advancing technology.
• Unlike industries like Big Oil or Big Pharma, which have a history of lobbying to perpetuate environmental harm or exploitative practices, Musk’s advocacy supports forward-looking technologies.

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4. "This is like the robber barons of the early 20th century."​

This analogy is flawed in several respects:

Robber Barons vs. Musk:​

• Early 20th-century robber barons (e.g., Rockefeller, Carnegie, Vanderbilt) exploited monopolistic practices, crushed competition through unethical means, and amassed wealth by hoarding resources or exploiting labor.
• Musk’s companies compete in highly regulated and competitive markets. Tesla broke into an entrenched automotive industry dominated by giants like GM, Ford, and Toyota. SpaceX disrupted traditional aerospace dominated by Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
• Musk’s businesses focus on innovation and efficiency, not monopolistic control or worker exploitation.

Public vs. Private Benefit:​

• The robber barons often operated without regard for public benefit. In contrast, Musk’s ventures (EVs, renewable energy, space exploration, internet access) align with global challenges and public good.

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5. Fraud Allegations​

• Claims of fraud, often leveled at Tesla and SpaceX by detractors, have not held up in court or regulatory investigations.
• Tesla’s delivery delays or overambitious timelines reflect growing pains typical of innovative companies, not systematic fraud.
• SpaceX’s consistent delivery of services and technological milestones (e.g., reusability) disproves fraud allegations.

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In Summary:​

• Musk’s companies are innovative producers of tangible products that align with global priorities (e.g., sustainability, space exploration).
• Government contracts and subsidies are standard in the industries where his companies operate and are not inherently corrupt or unique to Musk.
• Allegations of "political capture" and comparisons to robber barons are speculative and ignore the competitive, transformative nature of Musk’s contributions to technology and society.

While Musk is a polarizing figure and open to fair criticism, the narrative presented by SF Kosmo overgeneralizes, ignores context, and conflates standard industry practices with wrongdoing.
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1. Tone and Language Choices:​

• The rebuttal uses a confident, somewhat defensive tone, which might lead to the perception of bias, especially when terms like "misconceptions," "misrepresents," and "flawed analogy" are used. These terms suggest that the opposing argument is mistaken, without necessarily acknowledging the complexity or validity of the criticisms in question.
• The use of phrases like “standard industry practice” or “government contracts are not handouts” tends to downplay the criticism or the idea that government involvement in these industries might be excessive or problematic. This framing can make the response sound more favorable to Musk without fully addressing the nuances of such criticisms.

2. Selective Use of Evidence:​

• The text argues that government contracts and subsidies are standard practice in Musk’s industries (aerospace, automotive), comparing his companies to others like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and traditional automakers. This comparison effectively downplays Musk’s unique position or influence within the sector, but it also sidesteps the question of whether the level of government support Musk receives is excessive, or whether it distorts competition.
• When discussing "political capture," the text claims there is no substantial evidence of Musk's influence being uniquely corrupt. However, it also downplays Musk’s significant political influence, especially considering his large financial contributions to political campaigns and the fact that he has made public efforts to shape policy related to his companies. The rebuttal frames his actions as aligning with "broader societal goals," which could be seen as an oversimplification.

3. Minimization of Criticism:​

• In addressing the comparison to "robber barons," the text highlights Musk’s disruptive business practices and his focus on "innovation and efficiency," implying that Musk’s success is primarily due to his ability to improve markets. While this is a valid point, it also minimizes the reality that Musk’s companies are highly influential players in highly competitive, heavily subsidized industries. The argument that Musk’s business operations are not monopolistic overlooks the fact that he has consolidated significant power in sectors like space exploration and electric vehicles.
• The rebuttal claims that Musk's companies align with global priorities (e.g., sustainability, space exploration, internet access), which is a well-argued point, but the use of the phrase "align with global challenges and public good" could be seen as biased in that it presumes Musk’s business priorities are inherently aligned with societal benefit without fully grappling with the potential harm or ethical concerns related to his business practices (e.g., labor practices at Tesla, or the environmental impact of some of his ventures).

4. Lack of Acknowledgment of Negative Criticisms:​

• There is little recognition of the legitimate concerns regarding Musk’s business practices, particularly regarding his treatment of workers, environmental impact, or the volatility of his public statements and actions. A more balanced approach might acknowledge some of these criticisms while still defending Musk’s overall contributions. For instance, while the rebuttal does mention that Tesla has faced "fraud allegations," it dismisses them as unsubstantiated, without exploring the broader concerns that may be motivating these allegations, such as reports of misleading statements or overly optimistic production targets.
• The rebuttal doesn’t acknowledge some of the ethical questions raised by Musk's behavior, such as his influence over regulatory bodies or labor conditions at Tesla’s factories. While these concerns are not central to the rebuttal, acknowledging them would have made the defense feel more nuanced.

5. Dismissal of Criticisms as "Speculative":​

• The rebuttal dismisses criticisms such as "political capture" and comparisons to the "robber barons" as speculative. While these points might be exaggerated in some circles, dismissing them entirely without further discussion could be seen as a way to deflect valid concerns about Musk’s influence and the nature of his corporate empire. This approach creates an impression of bias by not engaging deeply with the criticisms but instead framing them as unfounded.

Conclusion:​

While the rebuttal does a solid job of defending Musk’s companies and clarifying misconceptions, it does so in a way that could be considered biased. The text selectively downplays certain criticisms, relies heavily on Musk’s successes to justify his actions, and uses framing that could lead a reader to view the critiques as less credible or unjustified. A more balanced approach would acknowledge the complexity of these issues and offer more room for discussion of the potential drawbacks of Musk’s business practices, especially in terms of labor relations, environmental impact, and political influence.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Unrelated but it seems stellar blade is releasing the uncensored version of the outfits due to gamers raising their voices, this is a positive step.

That Grummz dude is so fucking cringe.


He has pronouns in multiple sentences in this tweet as well.... pretty sus.

 

[EviLore]

My point exactly. One of the best games ever made was made under communism. Thanks EviLore!

A few of the best movies, too, like Stalker and Come and See. And a few of the best books, like The Gulag Archipelago. But little of worth was able to get past the crushing censorship, financial disincentives, and ideological conformity overall. Tetris exists because it was purely inoffensive to the State. They still stole ownership of it and complicated its distribution greatly, tovarisch.

 

[BattleScar]

A few of the best movies, too, like Stalker and Come and See. And a few of the best books, like The Gulag Archipelago. But little of worth was able to get past the crushing censorship, financial disincentives, and ideological conformity overall. Tetris exists because it was purely inoffensive to the State. They still stole ownership of it and complicated its distribution greatly, tovarisch.

I get your point.
But there is nuance of course. Capitalism trends towards favouring "commercial viability" ahead of artistic expression in and of itself.
Communism trends towards censorship and appeasement.

Its hard to argue that the aggressive and rampant commercialisation of creative industry (such as video games and film) has resulted in more and more mediocre slop that aims to appeal to the lowest common denominator while attempting to drain you of every penny. Why do you think "woke" stuff even happens? Its not cause these companies care about these movements, I can tell you that much.

 

[ReBurn]

I get your point.
But there is nuance of course. Capitalism trends towards favouring "commercial viability" ahead of artistic expression in and of itself.
Communism trends towards censorship and appeasement.

Its hard to argue that the aggressive and rampant commercialisation of creative industry (such as video games and film) has resulted in more and more mediocre slop that aims to appeal to the lowest common denominator while attempting to drain you of every penny. Why do you think "woke" stuff even happens? Its not cause these companies care about these movements, I can tell you that much.

Was there ever a time when video games were only art and not a way to get people to part with money? It's not like they existed in art galleries and museums before someone took them out and asked people to put quarters into them. The "creative industry" exists to commercialize creativity. The creative industry was never art first, money second. It has always been art intended to generate money. It was sold out from the beginning.

There are some people who create art for the sake of the art and who create it for self-fulfillment, but that's never been the driving force behind video games.

 

[EviLore]

I get your point.
But there is nuance of course. Capitalism trends towards favouring "commercial viability" ahead of artistic expression in and of itself.
Communism trends towards censorship and appeasement.

Its hard to argue that the aggressive and rampant commercialisation of creative industry (such as video games and film) has resulted in more and more mediocre slop that aims to appeal to the lowest common denominator while attempting to drain you of every penny. Why do you think "woke" stuff even happens? Its not cause these companies care about these movements, I can tell you that much.

I would argue that the problem is more with consolidation to a few risk averse and conformant megacorporations that pour all of their resources into safe, tedious projects. This happened with both the video game and movie industries in the past 10-20 years. Then, as part of that risk aversion and conformity to social politics du jour, everyone is afraid to create content with an edge or with an auteur spirit.

Medium budget projects outside of those paradigms are where creativity can still be realized, as we see with Japanese and some European studios.

The solution isn't to abandon capitalism, though. The industry will course correct as the big corporations fail to serve consumer interests.

 

[light2x]

Remember 10 years ago when the word "pronoun" actually meant what it was supposed to mean?

 

[IDKFA]

This really isn't the hill to die on.

This isn't "killing art" at all. Art should allow people to create whatever they want, and if that means a fantasy world where people use pronouns then so be it. Going against this is actually killing art.

That's not to say I like this direction, and if a game, film, book is too "woke", or if I don't like the views of the developer (for example, I've never played Disco Esylem because of the developer's views) then I just won't spend money on it. That's not to say however that I think these types of products shouldn't exist. I believe they should exist as I believe in free speech and the free expression of art.

Let them make whatever they want. The public will decide if they want to spend money on it.

 

[xanaum]

He's absolutely right about that. Besides, if your game stoops to the ridiculous level of using gender-neutral pronouns, it means you've already caved to way more whining from people who don't even buy games, to the point of ending up here.

 

[darrylgorn]

I'm sure boycotts will work this time....

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Yes they failed because of it. Because wokism neutered the creativity of the developers either forced by DEI policies, political correctness or by their own will. just look how bland the latest Jaguar ad is. Mediocrity is the new goal for anything woke.

This.

Having those would easily turn people off and woke stuff usually come with bad arts, bad characters, and bad writings in most cases with the exception of a few. Veilguard would have been a mega hit like how Witcher 3 was if it had better writing, characters, and none of those disgusting woke shit.

So many people on here handwaving this pronoun nonsense.

Because it's the same ones that secretly supports those woke psychopaths.

Pronouns are one of the cringest things I've ever witness.

Also outside of US nobody's use these

Even a lot of people from the U.S don't like it, as bad as these sick shits are. There's still a lot more sane folks here compared to the woke lunatics and their brainwashed supporters.

 

[boomcrab]

Elon Musk is an actual clown.

 

[Skelterz]

I'm anti-woke but I wish people wouldn't leap to conclusions based on a single bit of data like he/him vs. male. Yeah, it's cringe, but "totally unacceptable"? Not to me. If the rest of the game is fine, I can overlook little progressivisms like that.

I would rather wait and see if there are other data to corroborate that the game is woke before making assumptions. To me, whether a game is woke depends mostly on dialog, characters, and story, not just on a label in a character menu.

I would actually argue that He/Hims are regressive not progressive as they demand an altered speech something that completely undermines constitutional rights for freedom of speech, in my opinion it’s a step backwards not forwards unless forwards means authoritarianism then yes forwards we go.

 

[GHG]

it’s funny how the tune has changed now that MS game studios are caught in the Woke wagon. And now it’s forgivable. What was it? Go Woke and go broke. Fucking hypocrites.

If you want whiplash, compare some of the comments from some people in this thread to what they've been saying about this:

Rumor - Report: Microsoft has laid off their DEI team, shutting down diversity division

Microsoft is reportedly shuttering a major diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) team, according to an internal email sent by the team's leader to a significant number of Microsoft staff last week, in which the lead also accuses the company's executive leadership of "investigated and evidenced...

www.neogaf.com

 

[The Stig]

Mothers should be supportive. Fathers should tell the truth.

If not fathers, then no one will.

So fathers cant be supportive and mothers can't tell the truth?

This is absolute horse shit. You should be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely spurious nonsense

 

[GHG]

So fathers cant be supportive and mothers can't tell the truth?

This is absolute horse shit. You should be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely spurious nonsense

I know it seems to be "taboo" for some reason in this day and age, but gender roles as part of parenting are important.

Part of the reason why we got in to this mess in the first place is because at some point people were told it was a good idea to abandon gender roles as part of parenting.

 

[The Stig]

a reminder of what the clown musk would actually look like without his money

he is not genetically superior to anyone at all.

 

[EviLore]

So fathers cant be supportive and mothers can't tell the truth?

This is absolute horse shit. You should be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely spurious nonsense

Of course fathers can also be supportive and mothers can also tell the truth. I did not claim otherwise.

Men and women are different, though.

Also, you should be respectful and control your emotions better if you want to participate here.

 

[Humdinger]

I would actually argue that He/Hims are regressive not progressive as they demand an altered speech something that completely undermines constitutional rights for freedom of speech, in my opinion it’s a step backwards not forwards unless forwards means authoritarianism then yes forwards we go.

Is the game demanding an altered speech pattern? Requiring, for example, that we address biological men as women? I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.

I am hoping that Avowed turns out all right. I was encouraged by the previews. I could use a good WRPG. I'm willing to give the game the benefit of the doubt for now. If I see more evidence of progressive ideology being shoved into the game - not just on a character menu but especially in dialog, characters, or story - then I'll be disappointed and turn away. But for now I'm in wait and see mode.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

a reminder of what the clown musk would actually look like without his money

he is not genetically superior to anyone at all.

Who cares if Musk isnt good looking and was missing half his hair before he got hair plugs?

Guy is a super smart business guy and coder.

Elon Musk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EN250]

Pronounces are the lesser evil, just shoehorned in game to satisfy the PR team for le inclusive points on twittard

The problem is when that kind of shit is acknowledged in game an has a "story" behind it and to follow it, like this dumb af character with massive victim complex (I'm struggling, everyone is against me, why the world won't bend over backwards for me)

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Every time i see Musk, i'm little scared.

I got a fix for you mate

 

[poppabk]

And pray tell us, why is this of the utmost importance?

If you are dealing with clients, it is usually considered best not to refer to a man as 'her' or 'she'. Nor is it good if they refer to you as a 'she', because you have to correct them and over email there isn't a smooth way to do that without looking like you were deeply offended.
Not the end of the world, but it helps often already painful communication go a little more smoothly.