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[casperOne]

Eventhubs putting SRK on blast for not crediting content.

Two points:

• I wish they (and other people) would get it through their heads that crediting an author for their work doesn't constitute proper licensing of the work (and that's the real issue here).
• The irony that it's EH making this claim is overwhelming.

 

[casperOne]

I don't get why people want all edition mode to be tourney standard. It seems fun but hardly competitive due to obvious balance concerns.

That's the thing, they're simply concerns. No one knows how it will play out. Would rather see it rock and have the community adjust than not knowing the full potential it could reach.

 

[Gr1mLock]

I can see the merits of not making edition select the standard, but i just don't care. I don't think the term 'put your dick on the table' has ever been more appropriate. Why even bother announcing this if its going to be some 'just for the lulz' feature. Lame.

 

[Infinite]

That's the thing, they're simply concerns. No one knows how it will play out. Would rather see it rock and have the community adjust than not knowing the full potential it could reach.

We kinda do though. Partially why we got new versions with balance changes.

 

["God's Beard!"]

edition select is so perfect for team tournaments.

 

[Westlo]

That's the thing, they're simply concerns. No one knows how it will play out. Would rather see it rock and have the community adjust than not knowing the full potential it could reach.

It's an offline only mode, the majority of people who purchase Ultra will probably not use it since most people are online players. (Biggest Tournament gets 1500-1700 ppl and Super sold like 2 million.....)

It never would've been made standard anyway since the Japanese Arcade scene is going to be pure Ultra, but being offline only is the last nail in the coffin for this debate.

 

[Infinite]

I'm just saying I rather have a tournament be about who's the strongest player and not who's the most broken character. Fun side format though

 

[MyWhiteRequiem]

Is this the week Accent Core +R is finally released on US PSN?

I believe.

 

[Horseress]

From Shoryuken.com: UPDATE: Capcom’s USFIV blog has a bit more on Edition Select. The feature is exclusive to the home versions of USFIV and is not compatible with online modes.

Sounds good enough for me.

Maybe putting this as an option to endless battles would be better, but I'm ok with this.
and lol @ people wanting it to be standard setting for tournaments...

"ok, EVO is next month, gotta learn the match-ups, so lets study 5 Cammy's, 5 Sagat's, 3 Yun's, 5 Ryu's, 5 Bison's, 5 Abel's....."

 

[number47]

Ultra will be standard. It will be unfair for newcomers to ultra to play "unknown" versions. Plus someone said it. It's really the super characters that have it best.

 

[jbug617]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";102982001]edition select is so perfect for team tournaments.[/QUOTE]

yeah that mode would make team tournaments more watchable.

 

[Infinite]

Ultra will be standard. It will be unfair for newcomers to ultra to play "unknown" versions. Plus someone said it. It's really the super characters that have it best.

Not really 2011 Ken is the best Ken

 

[Tik-Tok]

What would have been fun is if they just release Ultra first and say 6 months after evo, patched in the Edition Select feature.

That way people could have time to play Ultra and then get Hype about Edition Select.

Even though I know it likely won't, you can count me in on the side that wants Edition Select to be tournament standard.

 

[Shito]

Ultra will be standard. It will be unfair for newcomers to ultra to play "unknown" versions. Plus someone said it. It's really the super characters that have it best.

Vanilla Sagat and Vanilla Akuma can probably wipe the floor with them, but we'll never kno... oh wait, yeah, now we'll be able to answer this crucial question! ^^

 

[Infinite]

What would have been fun is if they just release Ultra first and say 6 months after evo, patched in the Edition Select feature.

That way people could have time to play Ultra and then get Hype about Edition Select.

Even though I know it likely won't, you can count me in on the side that wants Edition Select to be tournament standard.

Nah this is way better as a selling point for when the game comes out.

 

[jbug617]

Ultra will be standard. It will be unfair for newcomers to ultra to play "unknown" versions. Plus someone said it. It's really the super characters that have it best.

I think Super was the best version of SF4. It was only at the end we really got a lot of Viper in the US but I think people would of figured it out to beat her.

 

[Westlo]

Plus someone said it. It's really the super characters that have it best.

Vanilla Sagat, Akuma, Seth, Cammy, Gen lol @ that.

 

[Beckx]

SCR was beautiful. My high points:

• Full Boost - Turn A gets a nuke that catches both opponents, then goes ham for the rest of the round.
• Full Boost top 8 - great play, great movement from team Yoyolon.
• Infiltration playing Chun Li and nearly winning a major.
• KBrad beating Infiltration to win SCR; SFIV top 16 overall.
• Apologyman waking up after Champ reset the bracket.

Low points only the timing in general. Long breaks made an event that was already going to run late run even later. Makes you really appreciate the events that run on a tight schedule.

My hype for Ultra really rose after seeing the "pick your version" event & watching the top 16.

Thread banner is also great.

 

[Kimosabae]

Blender Edition is a potentially huge problem. If you let it rock initially, or parallel to Ultra - Ultra restricted is going to seem uninteresting to a lot of people. That could hurt the momentum of Ultra adoption moving forward, then all this rebalancing in the end was for what?

I agree with Broly; this is something that should have released months down the line giving Ultra a chance to breathe.

My hope is that the Japanese just decide to laugh this off as the Kusoge that it is and the other regions follow accordingly.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

5 kens and no wolverine? smh

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Love the new update.
Also, SCR was awesome. A Super Skrull and Firebrand beat everyone. Oh my!

I don't get why people want all edition mode to be tourney standard. It seems fun but hardly competitive due to obvious balance concerns.

Because I wanna play Cody as his best vs Sagat at his best. Make an uphill challenge more fun and rewarding. It makes for dynamic gameplay and a lot to think about.
Ryu vs Ken in Ultra: "Oh OK, I know how this goes"
but
AE2012 Ryu vs 2011 Ken: "Well this is interesting". You have so much more diversity to add to the game that I (personally) think it strengths you as a player.
It also means the tier list isn't as compact. AE 2012 tier list is: Cammy, Seth Akuma but now we can add SF4Sagat and SSF4Bison to that while also Dudleys to not play at the bottom ranks but use their best version.

 

[Silky]

5 kens and no wolverine? smh

someday marbles will get the respect they deserve

 

[Parallax Scroll]

does this update let me pick the street fighter alpha 1 version of ryu? i'm gonna do some chain combos.

 

[kirblar]

Should probably write something up on Mirrodin/Urza's Saga and how it relates to Vanilla AE/Edtion Edition as competitive games. Broken stuff doesn't just kill hype over time, it kills games too.

 

[Hitokage]

Should probably write something up on Mirrodin/Urza's Saga and how it relates to Vanilla AE/Edtion Edition as competitive games. Broken stuff doesn't just kill hype over time, it kills games too.

Won't somebody think of the children?

 

[kirblar]

Won't somebody think of the children?

If by children, you mean the future unborn children who I'd like this genre to be around for in 20-30 years, then yes.

 

[Hitokage]

No, I mean all this needless moralizing over options existing in a game. In Third Strike you could even adjust system mechanics!

 

[Infinite]

Love the new update.
Also, SCR was awesome. A Super Skrull and Firebrand beat everyone. Oh my!



Because I wanna play Cody as his best vs Sagat at his best. Make an uphill challenge more fun and rewarding. It makes for dynamic gameplay and a lot to think about.
Ryu vs Ken in Ultra: "Oh OK, I know how this goes"
but
AE2012 Ryu vs 2011 Ken: "Well this is interesting". You have so much more diversity to add to the game that I (personally) think it strengths you as a player.
It also means the tier list isn't as compact. AE 2012 tier list is: Cammy, Seth Akuma but now we can add SF4Sagat and SSF4Bison to that while also Dudleys to not play at the bottom ranks but use their best version.

You kinda proved my point with this. Not interested in which character is the strongest but rather which player is the strongest.

 

[Tik-Tok]

Should probably write something up on Mirrodin/Urza's Saga and how it relates to Vanilla AE/Edtion Edition as competitive games. Broken stuff doesn't just kill hype over time, it kills games too.

But everyone liked playing Urza's Saga decks. No one I know now who plays competitive Magic even enjoys playing the game.

 

[Shito]

No, I mean all this needless moralizing over options existing in a game. In Third Strike you could even adjust system mechanics!

I, for one, am against the all line of thought that is getting more and more prevalent, stating that adding options is always a good thing for the players.
It sure as hell is not if the options don't make sense / can hinder the fun of other players / aren't tuned / are there just for the sake to put more options.

I'm not saying options are bad and we shouldn't have any, just that the argument that "oh it's an option, so it can only be GOOD" is kinda stupid. Each option can be judged and evaluated on its own merit.

 

[Retro_]

With fighting games, or any competitive game, I think consistent universal rules are more important than options.

We're not trying to play minecraft and build our own game here. What's more important is that people all over the world are playing the same one for competition's sake.

But that's just me.

 

[kirblar]

No, I mean all this needless moralizing over options existing in a game. In Third Strike you could even adjust system mechanics!

Options are great- I was incredibly excited and hype when the trailer hit. It subsequently got a second gigantic reaction of terror immediately after as people started pushing for it as the tournament standard. And it's been a blend of the two until I woke up this morning, saw the blog update, and am back to being happy. I'm an econ major- gives me new appreciation for why the Fed or balance teams usually aren't the most open/accessible members of a team to public dialogue.

But everyone liked playing Urza's Saga decks. No one I know now who plays competitive Magic even enjoys playing the game.

Saga and Mirrodin block both lost a massive amount of the playerbase due to competitive play degenerating.

 

[Dahbomb]

This not being online and not being at arcades makes it much more difficult to adopt as tournament standard.

I only see it being adopted if Ultra ends up being hilariously broken. Like say if Elena becomes god tier and the only way to beat her consistently is with old characters.

 

[Shito]

I only see it being adopted if Ultra ends up being hilariously broken. Like say if Elena becomes god tier and the only way to beat her consistently is with old characters.

Well, I suspect this is clearly why the option is there in the first place, as some kind of fail-safe option if something were to end up too broken in Ultra. This doesn't ooze confidence in your balance work...
On the other hand, it's also a strong sign that it's probably going to be the last version of SF4 we'll get. If they don't add another balance patch with the inevitable PS4/Xbone version, that is...

 

[SloaneRisette]

This not being online and not being at arcades makes it much more difficult to adopt as tournament standard.

I only see it being adopted if Ultra ends up being hilariously broken. Like say if Elena becomes god tier and the only way to beat her consistently is with old characters.

Sanford will truly be the king again.

 

[BadWolf]

Maybe putting this as an option to endless battles would be better, but I'm ok with this.
and lol @ people wanting it to be standard setting for tournaments...

"ok, EVO is next month, gotta learn the match-ups, so lets study 5 Cammy's, 5 Sagat's, 3 Yun's, 5 Ryu's, 5 Bison's, 5 Abel's....."

Yeah, it would be pretty ridiculous. Not only would it be tough for people who have played the game since Vanilla but new players would think twice about learning the game I think.

So far I see it as something fun, nothing serious.

 

[Coffeeling]

But everyone liked playing Urza's Saga decks. No one I know now who plays competitive Magic even enjoys playing the game.

Broken shit in Standard is broken shit in Standard.

Sadly, dull Rosewater-ized blandathons aimed at hypothetical drooling mouthbreathers with no patience or willingness to use their brain are also what they are in Standard :/

Main reason I'm looking into Netrunner. The dev team at FFG seems to think that their customers have brains.

 

[xCobalt]

Don't know if anyone posted this but I noticed that you can configure your buttons on the character select screen.

 

[Spacebar]

SCR was a great tournament to watch. Great job Valle and the rest of the staff.

 

[mr. puppy]

Eventhubs putting SRK on blast for not crediting content.

Two points:

• I wish they (and other people) would get it through their heads that crediting an author for their work doesn't constitute proper licensing of the work (and that's the real issue here).
• The irony that it's EH making this claim is overwhelming.

lol fuck you event hubs you've been stealing peoples shit for ten years

 

[BadWolf]

My biggest disappointment at SCR was that Infiltration didn't win AE with Chun Li.

My respect for him really went up after that performance.

And sorry but that Cammy play was just dumb to watch, pretty much rolled my eyes whenever she scored a knockdown.

 

[Infinite]

Man Gaf thoroughly hates on Cammy

 

[kirblar]

Man Gaf thoroughly hates on Cammy

There are people who don't?

 

[Infinite]

There are people who don't?

I know she's bullshit but like come on.

 

[Kimosabae]

Was +R at SCR in any capacity and was it streamed?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Flux should stop messing around and pick Cammy up

let that GAF hate grow

 

[Infinite]

Was +R at SCR in any capacity and was it streamed?

I think and yeah it was streamed

 

[DryEyeRelief]

As far as Edition Edition being worth playing or not, you have to ask if it'd be interesting once the relevant characters are figured out and the novelty has worn off.


Regardless of balance, ultimately it will end up becoming just another version of SFIV. I don't see two versions of SFIV coexisting in tournaments.

 

[Horseress]

Don't know if anyone posted this but I noticed that you can configure your buttons on the character select screen.

YAAAAAAY
But this won't stop button checks, cross tekken has this and people still don't trust it, for some reason

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

But everyone liked playing Urza's Saga decks. No one I know now who plays competitive Magic even enjoys playing the game.

Interestingly enough this is also a sentiment shared by me and other local Magic players :lol

But anyways we're all jumping the gun a bit on declaring Edition Edition killing all hype for Ultra out of the gate. We've only seen a few
hours of each.