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Fighting Games Weekly | March 3-9 | Edition Edition
- Thread starter enzo_gt
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Excellent Adventures 6-9 are out if you are into paying for their content
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzCBV6kzxr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzCBV6kzxr0
Curry-Hakase
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103414208]Just from messing around Yuri seems super super good in KOFXIII. Super hop EX Fireballs, easy pressure and mixups, good air mobility.
Just a lot of juice compared to Leona who was in her spot previously. I'll have to check out her juicy bit.
Duo Lon/Yuri/Kim seems like a lock.[/QUOTE]
She has so many tools at her disposal, and her vortex game is pretty strong; people in my community call her Akuma w/ tits lol
Command grabs, ambiguous cross ups(sometimes landing on the other side too depending on the set up.), decent pokes, a DP, fullscreen punish supers, great abare/anywhere juggles. The biggest thing she lacks is the damage her dad has so she has to do an extra combo or two to get the kill.
Just a lot of juice compared to Leona who was in her spot previously. I'll have to check out her juicy bit.
Duo Lon/Yuri/Kim seems like a lock.[/QUOTE]
She has so many tools at her disposal, and her vortex game is pretty strong; people in my community call her Akuma w/ tits lol
Command grabs, ambiguous cross ups(sometimes landing on the other side too depending on the set up.), decent pokes, a DP, fullscreen punish supers, great abare/anywhere juggles. The biggest thing she lacks is the damage her dad has so she has to do an extra combo or two to get the kill.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Even for a beginner like me, cLK, cLP, LK xx HP SRK on hit/LP demon flip into divekick on block/pause into command grab is so intuitive.
Curry-Hakase
Member
Haha yea, she has way too much hitstop on her normals; makes hit confirming a cinch.
Also happy birthday, CasperOne!
Thank you! My birthday wish is that you don't face a top player first round in your next tournament =)
irfaanator
Banned
happy birthday casperone
sixteen-bit
Member
happy birthday casperOne
RockTurtle
Member
happy birthday casperONE!
da gotfadar!
da gotfadar!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Since when did you guys start doing that player of the week thing? Who idea was that?
Its been happening for 2 months now...
KiT, had MLSwear Hakan beat Chris G in top 8 of SF4, backwards/blindfolded Street Fighter, Just won by running it back on Dieminion who came out of losers to put Justin down 0-2 in GFs. Was at the tale end of January.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
SloaneRisette
Member
Well we'll see when Evo gets here.
Yeah, I didn't even hear about that. I was conscious about the event, but I think something else had my attention that weekend. Sounds like I missed a great tournament.
Whoever wants to watch me be terrible at P4A come here http://www.twitch.tv/deezee_kujaku
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Is that the one that 645 helped stream? I'm getting all these tournaments mixed up.
Yeah, that's the one.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
KiT was good to stream. I don't remember a ton of details about it but I remember that I enjoyed it.
For some odd reason, I almost want to play P4A again lately. Kind of.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
the most difficult one is gen 23 or 24 iirc followed closely by one of vipers.... adons link from overhead is difficult to time too
the rest are hella easy. no reason you should be "giving up" on any of them
But Narukami and Labrys are fun
in dumb ways
I don't think I'll ever get into P4A as I did at launch though. Maybe lab like a day... then stop playing lol
Yeah, I was just asking for everyone's opinion and it seems to be the same with everyone. Being at Defend the North was pretty emotional come Sunday when they did the tribute for Remix. Hopefully Chris G is able to find some good friends and mature further throughout the years.
By stale, I don't mean repetitive, that was my fault on the wrong choice of words. I never get tired of combos from Marvel due to all the animations they put in for hit collisions. The word I meant to use was proficient. They do get the job done but its like Chris doesn't want to optimize with Doom or Vergil and does basic combos and sometimes extensions with his assist.
Very true. Hope he gets better throughout the years. Had a personal friend that knows him and Chris is a very outspoken person when he gets emotional since he tends to be a closet the majority of the time.
I broke out my copy of P4A today also.
consistency is definitely more important than damage and the result for them is probably the same most of the time buuuut
honestly there's no major excuse to not do the j.l footdive combo whenever you get a clean hit unless you're already gonna kill them because it adds a really huge amount of damage
with zero i can forgive it alot more as long as whatever they're doing is consistent because it's definitely gonna kill unless it's hulk or some shit
what i really want to see is more dooms do the corner airdash df hidden missiles->team super->super thing with him because it looks super cool
honestly there's no major excuse to not do the j.l footdive combo whenever you get a clean hit unless you're already gonna kill them because it adds a really huge amount of damage
with zero i can forgive it alot more as long as whatever they're doing is consistent because it's definitely gonna kill unless it's hulk or some shit
what i really want to see is more dooms do the corner airdash df hidden missiles->team super->super thing with him because it looks super cool
RockTurtle
Member
i think flashy comboes matter on a somewhat technical matter.
flashy comboes can be a natural evolution of a player who wants more, can do more. but on a technical level, it's more than just personal gratification.
in street fighter for example, damage dampening occurs yes so you get off a return on your commitment to a long combo, but it also adds up in the dizzy meter.
sometimes a 450 damage fancy combo is not as inherent as a 425 BnB, but that extra 25 could be the difference between a round finisher combo, or a magic pixel comeback!
flashy comboes can be a natural evolution of a player who wants more, can do more. but on a technical level, it's more than just personal gratification.
in street fighter for example, damage dampening occurs yes so you get off a return on your commitment to a long combo, but it also adds up in the dizzy meter.
sometimes a 450 damage fancy combo is not as inherent as a 425 BnB, but that extra 25 could be the difference between a round finisher combo, or a magic pixel comeback!
Got to learn those Labrys oki, Silky. And air axe on block is punishable iirc.
I'd probably play a bit if I didn't have school stuff to take care of today.
I did pop in some GG +R for a tiny bit. To this day, I still can't consistently do Potemkin's 6K into Hammer Fall. Not that I'll need to for Xrd.
MiniBossBattle
Member
You are approaching Magus1234 thoughts. I really think there is a balance of getting the conversion, consistency, and hitstun. I don't want every Doom or Zero to play the same, even when they are in combos.
Whenever you feel ready or the need for Labrys tech, you can ask me (or Q since he plays her too iirc).
She's a ton of fun once you're able to make an opponent respect you.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I play S.Lab
Can't blame you, it's a hard charge.
I am not saying they should, I am just reporting the reality.
Players should do the combos that they are most comfortable with and ones they get wins with. Period. Tournaments aren't combo video exhibitions, you don't get extra points for styling hard (only exception being Curleh Mustache where they have that swag award). Optimization while important should be one of the last things you do when it comes to improving as a player.
It's a common mistake when people overrate players because they use better combos or tech. Guess what happened in that Khaoz vs Justin match... guy with superior combos/tech got blown up.
SloaneRisette
Member
Please be excited
House of Crack marvel session is a go
http://www.twitch.tv/bum1six3
http://www.twitch.tv/bum1six3
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Good choice. My advice would be at some point learn a good red axe combo. Since they all deal so much damage the ideal use is to get your opponent close to Awakening and just kill them with a red axe combo using the D version of Beast at some point since it adds a ton of damage.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Just hearing that lobby music makes me want to whip out P4:A again.
Definitely going to be picking up Ultimax when it releases later this year.
Definitely going to be picking up Ultimax when it releases later this year.
Professor Beef
Banned
The only player who can get away with it is MarlinPie, and that's because he's actually good at the game. And even then, he's not as good as the rest.
Final Round is next weekend, which kicks off with Curleh Mustache. The fifth character is also going to be revealed there
Even MarlinPie goes for tournament combos when he needs to. I guess he will risk it when he's super far ahead but that has bitten him in the ass before.
You can maybe make the claim that style combos can demoralize the opponent although that only really works against lesser players. You aren't going to impress Justin Marvelous Wong with your fancy combos.
LMAO!
I think there's a difference between Doom and Zero in terms of combo damage output/necessary optimization/consistency. In Zero's case, a long as you 1) corner carry and 2) can do some lightning loop variant, you WILL kill every member of the cast. Doom doesn't do the same thing- optimization is necessary and even then, some character won't die (dependent on Doom's team comp and combo starter). Doom players get away with lazy combos because vast majority of them use him down the order and they have meter to derp combo into level 3 which will kill most characters you run into in tournament (that or they have Vergil, aka the walking DHC glitch on their team, so it doesn't matter). Also, more optimized Doom combos aren't even hard (outside of mid-screen Maziodyne loops which are inconsistent/impractical anyway).
Agree with this. OTG hidden missiles xx THC ender only works with certain team comps though (Doom/Dante, most notably. Can work with Doom/Ammy sometimes- dunno about others). It's godlike though- that ender means Doom can ToD Thor off the opening hit of the match easily.