Probably a review copy
Ah right, had no idea it would be out for review yet.
I thought maybe just through replaying the demo you could level up
Yeah it's full game, not the demo.![]()
Cool!
Probably a review copy
Yeah it's full game, not the demo.![]()
I have all the cars at level 8, reward cars, VIP cars & also £12m+ in the bank
Tier 2: 2015 BMW M235i
Tier 3: 2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition
Tier 4: 2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Tier 5: 2014 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S
Tier 6: 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
Tier 7: 2014 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
Tier 8: 2014 Audi #2 Audi Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro
GAME REWARD CARS
Forza Motorsport 4: 2009 Ford Focus RS
Forza Motorsport 5: 2013 Ford Shelby GT500
Forza Horizon 2: 2013 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby
VIP REWARD CARS
Forza Motorsport 5 VIP: 2013 Ferrari LaFerrari
Forza Horizon 2 VIP: 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
That's something I'm still struggling to understand. Typically, cars with white / grey or black paint look very natural, while colored cars (especially red and blue it seems) look rather unrealistic and oversaturated. I wonder if it has anything to do with metamerism, but probably not. Might just be that the shaders used multiply all reflected light with the paint color (besides pure reflections I guess), which is incorrect, since afaik car paint has small metallic flakes the reflect light without attenuation.. Another problem might be Fresnel effects, that is different reflection behaviour depending on the viewing angle, which may or may not change the effect color has on the lighting.
Oh I'm just a humble part time app developer / part time indie game designer who likes to muse about way too many things (often tech or physics related) I only have a partial understanding ofAfter that ....I now wonder what you do for a living.
That may very well be true. Perhaps it's not a matter of shader comlexity or post processing but rather a deliberate artistic choice. Yet I think it could partly be due to having to strike a certain compromise between having complex, natural lighting and ensuring a rock solid framerate that never wavers. But again, I'm not proficient enough in the matter to claim that with certainty.Also, I think only metallic and special paints ("candy paint" is an exaggeration in that) use flakes. And I doubt it has something to with fraction related physical effects on the cars, I'd imagine the mismatch with reality would be pretty big.
My guess is it's 100% intentional. Gran Turismo helicopter cam track-shots usually look more realistic (at smaller image sizes/lower res) than Forza but also less idealized hollywood'ish. In Forza "haze" doesn't exist, which keeps everything high-contrast. Driveclub does a good job with hazy environments, but I'm not sure I even want that in my Forza game, optional, sure, but not for the standard race look.
Why would you notice it in pCARS, where the on-screen wheel rotates 1:1 correctly and naturally? It's noticable in FM because it suddenly stops halfway through the steering action and you have to trust that the front wheels are still turning. Lol, you know this. Stop fucking with me..!![]()
These two look almost real. Nice!Some photos of the S3 :
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Why wouldn't I notice what my own hands are doing the wheel? I'm saying when I'm driving my own bands barely go much past what is animated in Forza with exception of hair pin turns. And I was saying when I was driving on Monza I don't remember how much I rotated the wheel on the chicane, but either way most chicanes aren't that extreme anyway.
I cant even find the demo in the stoe? Is it me or the xbox store become totally unusable now? All i see under games is all games, addons, no demo section,
Dont remember ever having this much trouble before
I cant even find the demo in the stoe? Is it me or the xbox store become totally unusable now? All i see under games is all games, addons, no demo section,
Dont remember ever having this much trouble before
Do we know when the reviews embargo is lifted?
Have you tried the dashboard refresh ? L+R triggers +y button, may helpI cant even find the demo in the stoe? Is it me or the xbox store become totally unusable now? All i see under games is all games, addons, no demo section,
Dont remember ever having this much trouble before
Do we know when the reviews embargo is lifted?
9/8 - 12:01 AM apparently.
Excited! Probably gonna pick this up with a wheel.
Do you all think getting an older Logitech racing wheel is worth it or should I wait for a new one?
Don't go there!
Grab a TX, its a nice little base and you can change the rim and pedals and add a H shifter if your budget can stretch that far.
9/8 - 12:01 AM apparently.
OK, no problem, we'll just have to disagree on this one. The issue also depends of course on how sensitive the steering ratio is set. If the wheel has a high gearing to give kart-like response then it might not show at all, but a lot of players use anything up to the full 900 degrees of rotation on their FFB wheels, making the 180 degree limit of the Forza animation manifest itself very often. Hell, anything above 180 degrees means it will happen to a varying extent. If it wasn't an issue then other games in the genre (DC, GT, pCARS, AC etc) wouldn't go the trouble of animating the full rotation of the wheel correctly, but they do, so it must be. Anyway, the evidence in there for all to see in any number of cockpit videos going all the way back to FM3. You don't think it's an issue, I do. Let's leave it at that.
This annoys me quite a bit actually, but more so because I can't _remove_ the wheel and hands from the screen. Who came up with the idea to have that shown when you're using a wheel?? It totally destroys my immersion! I have to look at a second pair of hands and a second steering wheel infront of my own hands and wheel (!!) which like you say rarely match with how much you turn the wheel or how you move the hands. It's even worse when you're using triple screens on PC, because then you're almost there, the immersion is great. Until you use the cockpit view. :/ They seriously need to add an option to do remove that when you're using a wheel, just show the cockpit view minus the wheel and hands, easy fix, I always drive with the hood cam in all racing games now that I have a wheel :/OK, no problem, we'll just have to disagree on this one. The issue also depends of course on how sensitive the steering ratio is set. If the wheel has a high gearing to give kart-like response then it might not show at all, but a lot of players use anything up to the full 900 degrees of rotation on their FFB wheels, making the 180 degree limit of the Forza animation manifest itself very often. Hell, anything above 180 degrees means it will happen to a varying extent. If it wasn't an issue then other games in the genre (DC, GT, pCARS, AC etc) wouldn't go the trouble of animating the full rotation of the wheel correctly, but they do, so it must be. Anyway, the evidence in there for all to see in any number of cockpit videos going all the way back to FM3. You don't think it's an issue, I do. Let's leave it at that.
I cant even find the demo in the stoe? Is it me or the xbox store become totally unusable now? All i see under games is all games, addons, no demo section,
Dont remember ever having this much trouble before
Important news, for me at least, I got confirmation that the S2000 in the Fast and the Furious DLC is indeed the day-glo pink one from 2 Fast 2 Furious, and the Supra is indeed the orange one from the original.
That's great, but I hope the Forza Horizon 2 F&F DLC makes its way over, and that the Lancer Evo from 2F2F, and the RX7s from the original and Tokyo Drift make their way over via future DLC.
I cant even find the demo in the stoe? Is it me or the xbox store become totally unusable now? All i see under games is all games, addons, no demo section,
Dont remember ever having this much trouble before
I 100% agree with you, but that's got little to do with what we were discussing, which is the on-screen wheel's inability to rotate beyond 90° in either direction. It doesn't bother you at all, I think we get that.I have it set at 900, for the vast majority of turns you don't need to remove your hands from the wheel.
Yeah it's weird why the FH2 Fast and Furious DLC isn't in the game, maybe it'll come as free pack later? And hopefully those cars you mentioned along with the Lykan Hypersport from Furious 7 and the Jensen Interceptor from Furious 6 would be awesome to have.
Still, the pack they have in the game is pretty sweet, I thought it was just going to be the FH2 cars all over again!
I 100% agree with you, but that's got little to do with what we were discussing, which is the on-screen wheel's inability to rotate beyond 90° in either direction. It doesn't bother you at all, I think we get that.
I'm so unbelivably trash with the wheel it hurts.
I wish my 360 wireless motion control wheel worked with the one, I only ever used it with forza 4![]()
Same. I can go reasonably close to my best pad times with the slower cars which is fine, as it is literally more fun with the wheel. Trying anything faster than an MX5 though tesults in some Maldonado esque efforts.I can maybe go to Highly Skilled/Expert with the Pad like I do in Forza 5, but I find the Wheel more fun.
2:35 clean lap *I think*What sort of times are you dudes getting on the corvette wet lap in the demo?
Is that with the wheel? I'm stuck at 2:39. There's this one puddle that is shitting me to no end. I drive like my grandma around the thing.2:35 clean lap *I think*
Nah, controller. Don't think I've managed a clean lap with the wheel :lol.Is that with the wheel? I'm stuck at 2:39. There's this one puddle that is shitting me to no end. I drive like my grandma around the thing.
Lol. Yeah its really stressful.Nah, controller. Don't think I've managed a clean lap with the wheel :lol.
Nah, controller. Don't think I've managed a clean lap with the wheel :lol.
What sort of times are you dudes getting on the corvette wet lap in the demo?
Incredible, as always :OFord GT :
Is that with the wheel? I'm stuck at 2:39. There's this one puddle that is shitting me to no end. I drive like my grandma around the thing.