ASOSThey won't reveal it until after Sansa escapes Kings Landing, just like in the book.
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Based on the episode descriptions revealed and the general flow of the season thus far, that likely won't happen until Season 4, I imagine.
ASOSThey won't reveal it until after Sansa escapes Kings Landing, just like in the book.
Id rather remind everyone here then see people get bannedYou aren't saying anything we dont know, the threads are clearly labeled. Anyone posting vague shit over there should be pointed out to a mod, not shit this thread up for the 500th time with the same complaint
That was a brilliant episode.
I think the things they added (the chair scene, theon running away, the intro to the blackfish and Edmure) were just damned brilliant moves.
The only thing that I don't get is:
- The scene with Robb's wife (that seemed just there to be like "HEY! Don't forget they have Lannisters and Robb's still married!"
- The Pod scene.
Perhaps I'm forgetting about the books but does Pod play a much larger role than I remember him playing? I thought his main deed was done.
Also WTF at that song?
That scene with Jamie had me like "AHHHHHHHHHHHH(credits start)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!"
To be fair, I've seen book readers shit up that thread(as well as the ones for the previous seasons) quite a bit. Hell, even now they've still got twats in there spouting shitty, vague bullshit.
ADwDRemember Pod is strung up right next to Brienne by Stoneheart.
I try not to even post there.
ADwDRemember Pod is strung up right next to Brienne by Stoneheart.
I stay out of it so I don't get tempted to post. Also so I don't accidentally post spoilers thinking I'm in this trhead.
Vargo has black humour to him, most of all because Jaime mocks him for his lisp and it's his way of coping with the pain. The song was just stupid, and it wasn't even a good song either.You're the one who wants the guy cutting off Jaime's hand to say, "thaphireth," but we want to have the dramatic scenes turned into a joke?
Thank you for taking the time to read my post and making this accurate description. (Not. Get lost, please.)He wants everything done by the book, anything not in the book is more than often derided for being stupid, or a waste of time. Haters gonna hate as they say
*eye-rolling*Not surprised that the usual suspects didn't care for it.
Their relationship isn't defined by camaraderie, though. But even if we want that, it could have been handled in a much better way, one that isn't stupid and doesn't show gratuitous amounts of nudity.I also liked the Pod/Bronn/Tyrion scene. It added some fun levity to the proceedings, and more importantly, added some comraderie to Pod and Tyrion's relationship, something I thought was really needed.
You're surprised people don't like a whining, pathetic douche?I'm surprised people don't like television Stannis. He's easily one of my favorites.
I thought Tyrion was gonna bring the chair next to Cersei just to piss her off. Haha. Sitting at the end worked too, though.The Small Council scene with them going for the chairs was pretty funny, Littlefinger dashes for the chair next to Tywin, Cersei pulls a chair up closer, and Tyrion pulls a chair to the opposing end of the table.
Blackfish and Edmure at Hoster's funeral is from the book. It's only slightly different in that instead of yanking the bow worldlessly from Edmure, the Blackfish offers to help Edmure, Edmure refuses, then when he misses a third time he gives up and gives the bow to the Blackfish.That was a brilliant episode.
I think the things they added (the chair scene, theon running away, the intro to the blackfish and Edmure) were just damned brilliant moves.
It introduced Martyn Lannister and the other kid. ASoSThe only thing that I don't get is:
- The scene with Robb's wife (that seemed just there to be like "HEY! Don't forget they have Lannisters and Robb's still married!"
Yeah, I don't get it either, the book readers are so obvious too.I get filled with rage when I am in that thread and people try to spoil things and try to make it look like speculation. Why do people have the temptation to ruin things for other people? I don't get it.
ASOS:So what are they doing with the Sam the Slayer/dragonglass stuff? Has that just been excised or delayed until later somehow?
I hope it's just delayed. It would suck if they cut it, and it wouldn't make sense [ASoS]since they introduced the dragonglass. Then again, they introduced Ser Dontos and then did nothing with him... so who knows...
Of all people, I figured you'd enjoy that, not hate it.
Their relationship isn't defined by camaraderie, though. But even if we want that, it could have been handled in a much better way, one that isn't stupid and doesn't show gratuitous amounts of nudity.
Morrigan Targaryen said:You're surprised people don't like a whining, pathetic douche?
if they follow the SEASON 3 FINALE SPOILERscene with the benny hill theme in the credits then this will be my show of the year.red wedding
Yeah, that's why I complained about Tyrion with Ros in the pilot, or Renly with Margaery, or Viserys and Doreah. Again: *rolls eyes*It was fun and fit the characters. I don't see what your problem is outside of a knee jerk disdain for any scene with nudity or sexual content that isn't in the books.
Nope. And he's not even close to accurate, he's a totally different person. Stannis the pathetic horndog, Stannis the mindless frontline charger, Stannis the unwitty, inept, humourless prick (he's (or should be) actually pretty damn funny and got tons of good zingers), blah blah blah, TV-Stannis just sucks right now. He has no likeable or redeeming qualities.Stannis on the show has been a fairly accurate depiction of the Stannis from the books from what I've seen. It seems like your entire critique of the character's television portrayal is based on last night's scene.
It was fun and fit the characters. I don't see what your problem is outside of a knee jerk disdain for any scene with nudity or sexual content that isn't in the books.
Stannis on the show has been a fairly accurate depiction of the Stannis from the books from what I've seen. It seems like your entire critique of the character's television portrayal is based on last night's scene.
You should follow your own adviceThank you for taking the time to read my post and making this accurate description. (Not. Get lost, please.)
It's like you can't disagree with someone without attributing motives to them. Amazing. Does it not occur to you that I can simply really just think the scene was stupid filler? Nah, I must have an underlying motive. Of course. Sigh...
I love you.
He's the insufferable book douche ready to jump at anything that seems slightly off or not as it was depicted in the books, calls out people for liking things he didn't (STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE) and then gets upset when you throw it back at him.
You should follow your own advice
lol, I'm not the one calling people namesYou're incredibly hyper sensitive and condescending. I'd just relax, man.
ASOS:So what are they doing with the Sam the Slayer/dragonglass stuff? Has that just been excised or delayed until later somehow?
Yeah, that's why I complained about Tyrion with Ros in the pilot, or Renly with Margaery, or Viserys and Doreah. Again: *rolls eyes*
It's like you can't disagree with someone without attributing motives to them. Amazing. Does it not occur to you that I can simply really just think the scene was stupid filler? Nah, I must have an underlying motive. Of course. Sigh...
Morrigan Targaryen said:Nope. And he's not even close to accurate, he's a totally different person. Stannis the pathetic horndog, Stannis the mindless frontline charger, Stannis the unwitty, inept, humourless prick (he's (or should be) actually pretty damn funny and got tons of good zingers), blah blah blah, TV-Stannis just sucks right now. He has no likeable or redeeming qualities.
The only time Stannis was accurate was his introduction, where he dictates the letter ("A lie! Take it out" and "Add Ser Jaime Lannister the Kingslayer"). The only time I liked him, too. xD Edit: no, wait, I forgot the "fewer" line. That was good. Stannis as a grammar nazi, I totally believe that.
oh my god, this is like self-parody
lol, I'm not the one calling people names
Would probably do wonders for Morrigan's blood pressure to just stop watching the show.
Yeah, that's why I complained about Tyrion with Ros in the pilot, or Renly with Margaery, or Viserys and Doreah. Again: *rolls eyes*
It's like you can't disagree with someone without attributing motives to them. Amazing. Does it not occur to you that I can simply really just think the scene was stupid filler? Nah, I must have an underlying motive. Of course. Sigh...
Nope. And he's not even close to accurate, he's a totally different person. Stannis the pathetic horndog, Stannis the mindless frontline charger, Stannis the unwitty, inept, humourless prick (he's (or should be) actually pretty damn funny and got tons of good zingers), blah blah blah, TV-Stannis just sucks right now. He has no likeable or redeeming qualities.
The only time Stannis was accurate was his introduction, where he dictates the letter ("A lie! Take it out" and "Add Ser Jaime Lannister the Kingslayer"). The only time I liked him, too. xD Edit: no, wait, I forgot the "fewer" line. That was good. Stannis as a grammar nazi, I totally believe that.
Would probably do wonders for your... brain? eyes? if you actually read what I write and hopefully assimilate the contents. I was praising the episode. Jesus you guys, learn how to read? I mean okay, I'm used to selective reading, but this is a bit much.
Macmanus, don't want me to be condescending? It's easy: don't misrepresent what I write, and don't attribute motives. It's really that simple. Honestly you're the one who needs to "chill".
[ASOS]Based on the episode descriptions revealed and the general flow of the season thus far, that likely won't happen until Season 4, I imagine.
Yet they have time for Pod in the whorehouse?They don't have time to put in all that subtle characterization of Stannis you seem to want.
The "pathetic horndog" was a general comment, but I def got that vibe when he begged her for another son. Just the way he inched closer to her looking all desperate was... ugh.I didn't interpret Stannis's line as him as a "pathetic horndog" anyways, I interpreted it as him being desperate to use her powers to kill his enemies in the same manner as Renly, which is fairly consistent with his character in the books.
Perhaps that was my fault, the "don't misrepresent me" part was not addressed to you specifically, it was a general comment.How have I misrepresented anything you've written? We've never even interacted up until now. Are you losing track of the people you're internet fighting with about fantasy television?
I sincerely doubt that was the actual reason. Just sayin'.Honest question: How is this guy not banned yet? I got banned for saying I prefer an android tablet over an ipad,
Wow, and you say I'm the insensitive one? You want me banned for... this? Come on, get some perspective here. I'm here in this thread to discuss the show. I apparently disagree with many people, and say so, which pisses off many people who have called me all manners of name (you included, now I'm a "raw dick") and have constantly misrepresented me, like those who claim I hate every change ever or hate the show when my recent posts have praised the latest episode, but I haven't insulted anyone. If this is the "Let's praise GoT circle jerk thread", then I'll be happy to admit my mistake and bow out of this thread, but yeah, I think you definitely need to relax and chill yourself.and this guy is just acting like a raw dick to everyone that disagrees with him.
Awesome episode, but still a lot of meandering. I think I'm just going to have to get used to it. I haven't read the books, but looking at the perspective character count it only goes up. Having a multitude of plot threads spread across an entire content does not translate to tightly woven cinema. It works far better in literature, due to the amount of exposition the author has control over, and the absence of time restraints.
So unless there's some dramatic turn of events that brings characters together similar to the first season/book, I should just sit comfortable with the sparse narrative and enjoy the otherwise excellent writing and characters.
As a side note, Carice van Houten as Melisandre is so fucking hot. No pun intended. She hits all my buttons.
Awesome episode, but still a lot of meandering. I think I'm just going to have to get used to it. I haven't read the books, but looking at the perspective character count it only goes up. Having a multitude of plot threads spread across an entire content does not translate to tightly woven cinema. It works far better in literature, due to the amount of exposition the author has control over, and the absence of time restraints.
So unless there's some dramatic turn of events that brings characters together similar to the first season/book, I should just sit comfortable with the sparse narrative and enjoy the otherwise excellent writing and characters.
As a side note, Carice van Houten as Melisandre is so fucking hot. No pun intended. She hits all my buttons.
SeriesMy biggest problem with the books. A lot of people discuss ASoIaF's "thousands of characters" as if it's something that should be praised. But those thousands of characters, and hundreds of plots, most with little connection to one another, causes the entire thing to lack of cohesiveness that I think any great story should have. It's the reason why I maintain that AGOT is the best book in the series, as all stories tied or were impacted by the central story of Ned in King's Landing.
the most glaring example of this issue was stannis' scene....what was the point of that exactly? it seemed like his contract required a certain amount of appearances in the season.
this was also the case last season with danaerys in some episodes. and also a major reason why blackwater was the best episode of the series.
when the focus becomes more narrow this show becomes more enjoyable.
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT FUCKING SONG IN THE END?? I WANT TO KILL HIM!!!!!!! SUCH A DRAMATIC END AND THEN THIS SHIT!!
what in the seven hells were they thinking? I can't believe this. Someone has to be fired over this shit. oh my dayyyyyyyyyyss... totally destroyed that feeling and the atmosphere at the end. shock gone in 0.1 seconds.
other than that a good episode. I'm glad they didn't chicken out with Jaimes hand. But where are they going with Theons story?
edit: oh yes, Blackfish! looks just like I imagined him in the books. such a badass mofo.
Buh? Why would I enjoy that scene?
Also the one 3 minute Jon scene we got this episode could have easily been put in episode 2.
Episode 4 previewAnd judging by the preview there might not be any Jon scenes next week (unless I missed something).
Wow, and you say I'm the insensitive one? You want me banned for... this? Come on, get some perspective here. I'm here in this thread to discuss the show. I apparently disagree with many people, and say so, which pisses off many people who have called me all manners of name (you included, now I'm a "raw dick") and have constantly misrepresented me, like those who claim I hate every change ever or hate the show when my recent posts have praised the latest episode, but I haven't insulted anyone. If this is the "Let's praise GoT circle jerk thread", then I'll be happy to admit my mistake and bow out of this thread, but yeah, I think you definitely need to relax and chill yourself.
Would probably do wonders for your... brain? eyes? if you actually read what I write and hopefully assimilate the contents. I was praising the episode. Jesus you guys, learn how to read? I mean okay, I'm used to selective reading, but this is a bit much.
Macmanus, don't want me to be condescending? It's easy: don't misrepresent what I write, and don't attribute motives. It's really that simple. Honestly you're the one who needs to "chill".
But whatever, I'm sure fanboys would have defended a stupid song following Ned's execution orbecause lulz.RW
(Not. Get lost, please.)
*eye-rolling*
Again, I implied no such thing. Some people have asked how deep GRRM's involvement was in the show, and I answered, citing sources. Whatever you choose to read as "implications" is a product of your own imagination. I'd kindly ask that you refrain from attributing to me things I never said, though. That's rude.
Yeah people who disagree with me are RIDICULOUS. God forbid some people dislike having one of the most serious dramatic scenes into a joke. Maybe you'd all be okay with a Blink 182 song following Ned's execution? Cause it's for the lulz
Next time they need to hire Loreena McKennitt. Seriously.
Do tell, o expert
Because it's a) listenable and b) a lot more fitting of the setting?
Can't believe people are defending the use of a crappy pop punk song in Game of Thrones... what's next, Alanis Morrissette singing the end credits of LotR?
This is amusing too, and better than the stupid pop rock song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swfDpFdgOZo
*rolls eyes*
Tyrion's trial was funny and (gasp) improved on the novels. This just wasn't. There's plenty of humour in the source material, but this was just filler. Come on, even the fanboys should admit that much.
Please post a link where I said anything like that. Kthxbai
Nope, try again
It's so cute to see the apologists so thoroughly ignore the "purists"'s acknowledgements of the good changes and hand-wave away every stupid change made by the TV show in the name of "it's an adaptation!!", though. I swear, if they introduce alien robots, you'll have a few people defend it.
Well, I guess you "love" it, I thought it was stupid and nonsensical and only made TV-Catelyn more annoying. *shrugs*
No it doesn't. WTF
Pure crock. it's a stupid motive the fanfic writers made up because they're bad writers.
Enough with all the hand-waving about their shitty decisions with "it's an adaptation!!11" already. Sometimes they adapt it intelligently, sometimes they don't. Robb/Talisa, Catelyn in general, Jon/Qhorin Halfhand, S2 Daenerys, Arya in general, Shae, Ros, they've blundered time and time again with those storylines while they could have easily, without time, budget or visual format restrictions, been more faithful AND been better.
Joke, right?
Again: are you joking?
Complete and utter bollocks. Catelyn has always, always been about her FAMILY first, since day one. Jesus where is this bullshit coming from? Even with the show diminishing her character so badly, even in the show we see it's about her family first and foremost. WTF...