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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3

JP

Member
the 1.76 is correct. 2tb are actually about 1.82tb due to computers working in base 2.
I know, that was the issue that I was having. As I said, the issue was that it was only registering as 1.30 TB prior to me reformatting it. After reformatting the SSHD it did then show as the expected 1.76 TB, which was 500 GB larger than it was registering as initially.

It's been a bit of a pain having to download stuff again but I'm just relieved that I was able to remedy the issue so I don't really mind. :)
 

Jatrid

Neo Member
Friend of mine has the Pro as do I, he has stock default HDD while I have the Firecuda 2TB. Both of us playing Battlefield 1 and I load into the game 10-15 seconds before he does, and that's on first boot up of BF1!
 

Vindicator

Member
Hope that amazon will get some Firecudas back in stock soon, only thing I did with my Pro yesterday was taking off the hdd bay cover, now its boxed again and waiting...
 

whiteape

Member
Amazon.de has the 2TB FireCuda in stock, but i don't know if it's really worth the 100€ as i already have a normal 2TB HDD. Do we have benchmarks in PS4 Pro yet?

Edit: Sorry, seems like it's just the 3.5" version that's available.
 
Does someone have a 256Gb drive and check how much does show after formatting and installing the OS?

I plan to buy a PS4 Pro and a 256Gb SSD just for a few exclusives and want to know if that would be enough.

Not planing to store videos, photos, anything else, just Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian and such.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Does someone have a 256Gb drive and check how much does show after formatting and installing the OS?

I plan to buy a PS4 Pro and a 256Gb SSD just for a few exclusives and want to know if that would be enough.

Not planing to store videos, photos, anything else, just Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian and such.

You're going to regret that decision soon enough.

Because you'll be juggling around games and deleting them constantly with that kind of storage space. Remember the OS takes up a huge chunk.
 
You're going to regret that decision soon enough.

Because you'll be juggling around games and deleting them constantly with that kind of storage space. Remember the OS takes up a huge chunk.

That's why I'm asking.

If every game is going to take 50 gigs, maybe I will go with 512Gb, but that's enough. I don't want to spend more than needed for playing those exclusives.

Anyone knows how much free space a Crucial MX300 275Gb ends up with?
 

goonergaz

Member
That's why I'm asking.

If every game is going to take 50 gigs, maybe I will go with 512Gb, but that's enough. I don't want to spend more than needed for playing those exclusives.

Anyone knows how much free space a Crucial MX300 275Gb ends up with?

as hoo-doo says, you will regret getting smaller - if you can stretch to a 500gb please do so to save yourself some hassle

looking at calculators and comments above a 275gb will leave you with ~180GB - enough for 3 games at most before juggling begins
 
as hoo-doo says, you will regret getting smaller - if you can stretch to a 500gb please do so to save yourself some hassle

looking at calculators and comments above a 275gb will leave you with ~180GB - enough for 3 games at most

512Gb it is.

Now let's see if Sony releases some interesting packs on Christmas, because Infamous doesn't interest me at all.
 

shark sandwich

tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Any good SSD 1tb hdds that are not as expensive as the samsung Evo?
PNY CS1311 960GB 2.5" SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - (SSD7CS1311-960-RB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019H3B6SA/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I found one of these for $220. That seemed to be the best value for a well-reviewed (almost) 1TB SSD that I could find. Installed it in my Pro last night and it works great, although I barely had time to play around with it much.
 
Wow.

That's the model I'm looking to buy.

I get that the samsung evo 850 is better, but the crucial is no slouch.

Really the only areas where any difference may be noticeable between SSDs is if you are writing/saving extremely large files or or RAW photo-editing. The premium models do have an edge there. Which doesn't apply to the Pro. Otherwise, hardly any difference.
 

Impulsor

Member
I don't think Pro will fully utilise any SSD so therefore I believe any SSD will likely show good improvements.

Maybe not fully, but look at all the evidence in this thread.

A lot of shorter loading times with an SSD.

I bet it even helps with texture streaming in some games.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
Maybe not fully, but look at all the evidence in this thread.

A lot of shorter loading times with an SSD.

I bet it even helps with texture streaming in some games.

He means that just because the Samsung SSD is better in real world, that it likely matches performance the other SSDs on PS4 since the it can't use any SSD to it's max potential.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Really the only areas where any difference may be noticeable between SSDs is if you are writing/saving extremely large files or or RAW photo-editing. The premium models do have an edge there. Which doesn't apply to the Pro. Otherwise, hardly any difference.

Yeah, even the slowest SSDs will be significantly faster than the fastest HDD
 

Impulsor

Member
He means that just because the Samsung SSD is better in real world, that it likely matches performance the other SSDs on PS4 since the it can't use any SSD to it's max potential.

Oh, I though that he meant that PS4 PRO would not benefit from an SSD at all.

Cheers and thanks for the tips guys.

I just ordered the Crucial Mx300.
 
Is there an explanation of how this is better than the 2TB Seagate people bought before the PS4 Pro was released?

There is only one 2TB Hybrid drive on the market at 2.5", and it's the Seagate Firecuda 2TB. (They have a 1TB model that is obviously easier to find right now.)
 
Firecuda sure isn't showing up any time soon.

So, couple of questions:

How much data is kept via back up/restore? Will it install both my uk and us profiles and install the games via this method?

If I used the external HD from my Xbox One S to do the back up, will this screw anything up? Would it wipe or alter my Xbox info?

May as well stick with my 1tb sshd instead of waiting another couple of weeks for the 2tb.
 

Mrbob

Member
Amazon.de has the 2TB FireCuda in stock, but i don't know if it's really worth the 100€ as i already have a normal 2TB HDD. Do we have benchmarks in PS4 Pro yet?

Edit: Sorry, seems like it's just the 3.5" version that's available.

The difference is going to depend on the game....the longer the loading the time the bigger the difference. You can check videos of sata 2 comparisons and many times the sshd drive offers a decent improvement. I'm expecting this to be even more pronounced with sata 3. So yes I'm expecting a significant improvement. We will have to wait for some tests to come out, PS4 Pro is just out in the wild now.
 

jeffc919

Member
Friend of mine has the Pro as do I, he has stock default HDD while I have the Firecuda 2TB. Both of us playing Battlefield 1 and I load into the game 10-15 seconds before he does, and that's on first boot up of BF1!

I came into this thread for this reason. What's interesting is that on my base PS4 with its stock HDD I always was one of the first ones to load into the game when the map changed. Now on PS4 Pro I'm loading much slower. This is a real disadvantage since loading quickly is the only way you're getting a vehicle at the start of the match.

I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I'm going to try going into safe mode and doing the rebuild database option. I read somewhere that doing the equivalent of that on Xbox helped with loading times. For the record, I setup my PS4 Pro by copying everything from my old PS4 over Ethernet.
 
Firecuda sure isn't showing up any time soon.

So, couple of questions:

How much data is kept via back up/restore? Will it install both my uk and us profiles and install the games via this method?

If I used the external HD from my Xbox One S to do the back up, will this screw anything up? Would it wipe or alter my Xbox info?

May as well stick with my 1tb sshd instead of waiting another couple of weeks for the 2tb.

I think you can only back up one profile at a time, but you can probably back up each profile separately to the same external drive. Worth a try.

In my experience it's a complete backup from the profile name to all of the installs, screen grabs, everything.

It shouldn't Touch your Xbox info since PS4 puts things in a very specific folder. But the drive has to be FAT or exFAT, no NTFS allowed.
 
We FINALLY (kinda) have a video that shows the speed difference using a FireCuda, but it's using a standard PS4, not the Pro, and it's not in English, BUT they do should side by side videos of the load times. Even still, there's a HUGE difference in boot times. The game download test was negligible, but I think the wrong game was used. They should have used an open world game.

Hopefully we'll get a proper video with a Pro.

Glad I got my FireCuda!

https://youtu.be/isqirmrCSzc
 

T Ghost

Member
Wanna share my experience and learnings of migrating from a 2TB PS4 to PS PRO.


  1. Turn on PS4, connected to PSN with my main account via Wi-Fi
  2. Set up PS4 PRO, connected to PSN using my account via Wi-Fi (logs you out of PSN on orginal PS4)
  3. Connected both via ethernet using a CAT 5a cable
  4. Used the "Transfer Data to Another PS4" function, selected to move saved data, captures, themes and settings.
  5. Selected to transfer only game install/downloads I'll be actually using within the next month or so. I cut down to transfer only 430 something GB from total of 1.7 TB.
  6. Transfer lasted about 90-120 minutes (Walk the dog, fixed dinner, came back about 90-120min later it was done)
  7. Replaced PRO 1TB HDD by OG PS4 2TB and went through set up on PRO
  8. Formatted original 500GB that came with OG PS4 (ExFAT, MBR. If you don't do MBR is doesn't work with PS4).
  9. Replaced 2TB HDD that was on PRO by 1TB originally came with PRO
  10. Using the backup function via USB, backed up the 470 something GB I had on PRO 1TB disk onto old 500GB HDD
  11. Replaced PRO 1TB by the 2TB and recovered the back up that was on 500GB.
  12. installed 500GB on OG PS4, went through set up, OG PS4 is ready to be sold and help paying for the PRO charge

What a journey!

Result was that now I have the 2TB HDD on PRO with everything it is EXACTLY like it was on OG PS4. Did half of it lst night and the rest today, while working from home.
 
Hah, the SSD costs 1.5x as much as the Pro. Do you also have a gaming PC?

People are buying $1K TVs for the pro, hell maybe someone is buying a new sofa, chances are it will also be more expensive than the console.

It's all about how it works together for that person, it's not like people don't buy SSDs and monitors that are more expensive than their GPUs.
 

finalflame

Banned
People are buying $1K TVs for the pro, hell maybe someone is buying a new sofa, chances are it will also be more expensive than the console.

Yah I mean, no judgement from me, I definitely don't let money get in the way of making less than prudent purchases, but it still seems kind of wacky to buy a $620 SSD for a $400 console :p

Either way, would love to see speed comparisons/hear impressions compared to the stock drive. My FireCuda 1TB arrives today, I'll be testing that out.
 

TyrantII

Member
I just ordered a 2TB 850 EVO on Prime Now.

Installing mine now. 675GB / 3 hours... not too bad.

Not too happy amazon shipped it in a bubble envelope, but everything seems fine.

It is a bit ridiculous, but I'll probably eventual migrate it to PS5 or network storage down the line. I don't always have to use it in the Pro. :)
 
Digital Foundry needs to get on the ball and get a comparison video out. I bought a 2TB Firecuda yesterday, but I will return it if SSD shows a massive gap in performance.
 
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