Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Maybe the idea is to get it out and then Emerge it into the Octodrazi.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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Maybe the idea is to get it out and then Emerge it into the Octodrazi.
A Serious Man
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I was interested in this until I realized it couldn't target players. That's probably for the best though, as that would be ridiculous.
Keru_Shiri
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Another cool thing about that devil is it's cheap enough that you can feasibly cash out other red madness cards like Incorrigible Youths or Fiery Temper. Not sure yet if it's worth it to run all of those cards in a list, but I'm happy they finally showed something that has me brewing.
I was interested in this until I realized it couldn't target players. That's probably for the best though, as that would be ridiculous.
I don't understand why this is a sorcery?
EDIT: okay, re-reading it and the power level is higher than I thought - the damage isn't split amongst targets. Makes sense I guess.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I was interested in this until I realized it couldn't target players. That's probably for the best though, as that would be ridiculous.
It would be the most OP card ever made lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think Nahiri might be dead by the end of this.
O-ring for spells. Also curious that it has old O-ring's separate effects.
O-ring for spells. Also curious that it has old O-ring's separate effects.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You mean more horseshit that can get cast by Collected Company decks so now they can counter Languish with Collected Company.
Another sorcery speed burn spell. I mean, I know why it's a sorcery, but I'm really hankering for more instant burn.
On the plus side, this is a fantastic combo with the new devil. Discard him, burn for 8+ divided, get crap in your grave for your next Devil to refill the hand you just discarded.
Emerging with this dude seems like a no-brainer, but I wonder what kind of deck wants both big ass Emerge dudes and a ton of cheap burn spells to rush this guy out. I'd rather take one or the other myself.
If I were to get both in limited though then I'd definitely try to do something like that.
On the plus side, this is a fantastic combo with the new devil. Discard him, burn for 8+ divided, get crap in your grave for your next Devil to refill the hand you just discarded.
Emerging with this dude seems like a no-brainer, but I wonder what kind of deck wants both big ass Emerge dudes and a ton of cheap burn spells to rush this guy out. I'd rather take one or the other myself.
If I were to get both in limited though then I'd definitely try to do something like that.
Sure. It's still a cool design.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Collected Company can counter Languish now.
Keru_Shiri
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Spell Queller is interesting (ugh CoCo). I wonder, when it dies can you just cast the spell any time afterwards? I assume you still have to follow the normal timing rules for the exiled card.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
No, you have to just cast it right then. That templating always means cast it right then or forever hold your peace. If they wanted you to be able to cast it indefinitely the templating will say "may cast that card as long as it remains in exile."
That'll probably be a thing to be concerned about in Standard. I still like the card.
You'll get the one chance to play it when the leaves the battlefield trigger resolves, regardless of timing restrictions.
A Serious Man
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"CoCo."
"CoCo in response, finding Spell Queller, exile your CoCo."
"Where is the best place to cash out of Standard?"
She's not. We know the whole story thanks to the art book. She planeswalks away while talking to herself, probably driven mad by Emrakul, after encasing Sorin in a rock.
Huh. That's actually much sillier than what I pictured.
Neverwinter27
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What is the "neogaf" of Magic the gathering forums online?
No, not Laquatus Champion.
The art was probably painted with watercolor or gouache, and not in a photorealistic style. It should be obvious that it is composed of smoke rather than solid matter. It also has two glowing eyes.
The reason I'm asking is because in addition to the usual magazine ads, I also saw it in animated form, in a cutscene from an official learn-to-play CD-ROM.
Simply Sarah
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I was interested in this until I realized it couldn't target players. That's probably for the best though, as that would be ridiculous.
Yeaaaaah, there is no way in hell this could be allowed to target players without breaking everything. As it stands, it looks like a legit card that can be used in a variety of ways. I can certainly see this getting play, be it main deck or sideboard, in the right decks.
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Does this card not work with Banishing Light wording or does this mark the reversion back to the Oblivion Ring template?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They sure do like weird Fact or Fiction variants
This is how Fact or Fiction should have always worked.This should be entertaining to resolve.
The box! The box!
It doesn't really work with the Banishing Light template because you can't just have a thing appear on the stack.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nahiri is the Bone of Her Sword
A Serious Man
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This should be entertaining to resolve.
The box! The box!
This is fantastic.
Keru_Shiri
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Gotcha. I wasn't 100% sure how that worked. My concern was having a Sorcery-speed nuked and then gone forever if the Spell Queller died outside of your main phase. Thanks for clearing it up!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't get it
Simply Sarah
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Eh, at least this is on the more interesting end of them. Gives the opponent the ability to play a more risk vs. reward game instead of just "Which is less great for them?"
Actually it turns out it makes a lot more sense than what we thought.
Nahariri wasn't planning to blow up the entire plane as revenge - her revenge was to put Sorin in the position she was left in. Emrakul would be trapped in the moon, and Sorin would be left trapped on the plane to safeguard it. Exactly as she was with Zendikar.
Unfortunately she didn't anticipate Sorin being a complete dick, and just deciding that he'd rather everything died and Emrakul roamed free rather than him actually having some responsibility for once. They fight, and whilst distracted she seals him in a stone cocoon and then the gate watch end up sealing Emrakul in the moon.
It's fitting with her red / white colours as a plan, and makes more sense than just "Kill everything because!". She just didn't anticipate Sorin's black side winning out over his white side.
She isn't the story is already spoiled.
This should be entertaining to resolve.
The box! The box!
Should've dug for 5 cards *pouts*
I'm not sure I follow. Couldn't they have worded it (if they wanted) "When _____ enters the battlefield, exile target spell with CMC 4 or less an opponent controls until _____ leaves the battlefield. When _______ leaves the battlefield, the exiled card's owner can cast it without paying its mana cost."
TheBlackMarvel
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To be fair, short of a retcon, Innistrad is doomed regardless of whether they dealt with Emrakul or not.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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usually proxy events are non sanctioned your store gotta be careful doing them at fnms
why is this BTW? Or are you referring to Avacyn being gone? I sort of think they had the White / Green angel lined up to replace her?
(And at some point when they return to Innistrad they will presumably be addressing the W/B angel and the missing vampire clan).
Keru_Shiri
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I really dig Fortune's Favor. A nice skill-testing card for both caster and opponent.
charlequin
Banned
I just can't get over the expression on this lady listening to Sorin run his mouth in this new illustration. I feel like this is gonna get a lot of use.
I mean just look how much she isn't into Sorin's shit.
(Also: didn't the art book spoilers say Sorin kills Olivia? Based on today's story it sounds like that changed.)
More the latter, but the awareness that this is possible (and, therefore, people actually doing it) has been steadily rising for a few years and we just hit an inflection point in how common it is. Once people realized how penny-ante MTG is compared to real (and even most imaginary) markets this became kind of inevitable; when you can clear out a commodity for five digits suddenly there's a number of people who can give it a shot at minimal risk.
People assume a good reprint policy means "dramatically reducing the price of all important cards" but it's exactly these events in Legacy that shows how much difference even their conservative approach makes: prices are much steadier in Modern and the general trend on everything but the top cards has been downwards after reprints. Plus, eliminate the reserve list and you free WotC up to print Modern stuff a little more liberally while still having a more impressive set of reprint-equity cards they can dribble out in minuscule quantities.
I mean just look how much she isn't into Sorin's shit.
(Also: didn't the art book spoilers say Sorin kills Olivia? Based on today's story it sounds like that changed.)
More the latter, but the awareness that this is possible (and, therefore, people actually doing it) has been steadily rising for a few years and we just hit an inflection point in how common it is. Once people realized how penny-ante MTG is compared to real (and even most imaginary) markets this became kind of inevitable; when you can clear out a commodity for five digits suddenly there's a number of people who can give it a shot at minimal risk.
People assume a good reprint policy means "dramatically reducing the price of all important cards" but it's exactly these events in Legacy that shows how much difference even their conservative approach makes: prices are much steadier in Modern and the general trend on everything but the top cards has been downwards after reprints. Plus, eliminate the reserve list and you free WotC up to print Modern stuff a little more liberally while still having a more impressive set of reprint-equity cards they can dribble out in minuscule quantities.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
you wanted something to counter GW tokens
Joe Molotov
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I don't get it
Potentially kills a decent sized creature and gives you a 2/2 body for 3 mana in a Zombie tribal deck.
Banishing Light and similar effects are fine because they're dealing with permanents. What happens when permanents show up on the battlefield is already figured out in the rules. Non-auras are just there, auras get attached to another thing, things trigger if they need to trigger, and everything is happy.
There aren't really rules right now for a spell just showing up on the stack, which is what would happen if you say "target spell is exiled until X leaves the battlefield". When a spell gets put on the stack you need to figure more stuff out like what modes are picked, what targets are chosen if any, additional costs paid, etc. A spell just showing up from exile won't remember these things, because it is a new object from the original spell that was cast.
The two main ways things end up on the stack currently are either casting it, which involves choosing all those things, or copying it, which copies all those choices from the original spell. So it makes sense to have this spell get cast, since that handles it all.
TheBlackMarvel
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Yeah, though we've already seen what the angels were capable of when she was gone before,
fuck all
Asspull.
EDIT: Or maybe Olivia
has grown a brain and understands the necessity of balance and uses the trapped Sorin as a supercharger for Sigarda 3.0?
Joe Molotov
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As an aside, Spell Queller gets around uncounterable spells that cost 4 or less 
I included the last line: "When _______ leaves the battlefield, the exiled card's owner can cast it without paying its mana cost." Why doesn't that satisfy those concerns?
I included the last line: "When _______ leaves the battlefield, the exiled card's owner can cast it without paying its mana cost." Why doesn't that satisfy those concerns?
TheBlackMarvel
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Not as of today's story...
charlequin
Banned
The sentence you have before it just doesn't mean anything in the rules. You can't exile something conditionally from the stack because things can only go onto the stack one way.
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