DryEyeRelief
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I don't think it'll bomb. UMvC3 is consistently above USF4 and SFV (lmao) for popular downloaded games on PSN.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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I don't think it'll bomb. UMvC3 is consistently above USF4 and SFV (lmao) for popular downloaded games on PSN.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
the mechanics and potential fundamentals of the game actually look solid. its just the art looks like garbage and the roster is boring.
Innovating by bringing back a mechanic from 22 years ago?
Different mechanics with different abilities. Not the same.
Under this logic there's no need ever for a new iteration or take on any fighter because...the old one already exists? ??? And it's not like people haven't still been playing UMvC3, so I'm not sure what your point is. That it's not OK for people to want an update to a game with developer support?
I actually agree with you on that developers should be allowed creative freedom and not be shackled by their audience demands, however "pandering" to your audience and creating something innovative aren't necessarily mutually exclusive things. Half the reason they changed these mechanics in MVCI in the first place was to "pander" to a "casual" audience, something MvC3 also attempted doing with its design. Their creative and innovative process stemmed from around that. This is what I mean by not being mutually exclusive.
racketpunch
Member
Personally, I'm not a fan of not having incoming mixups in these types of games. A lot of Marvel hype comes from pulling off crazy incoming mixups or blocking crazy incoming mixups.
Doctrine Dark
Member
It is? Had no idea.
I really don't know what to expect from this game. Just gimme a fun game. That's all I can ask for at this point.
The reason many people hated MVC3 was because of this shit so I certainly am glad it's not in DBZ.
Here people get more chances to play, I'm perfectly okay with this. As if the DBZ game wasn't gonna be pure hype without this.
Innovating by bringing back a mechanic from 22 years ago?
The new infinity stone system is absolutely NOTHING like the one from MSH. C'mon I've been on the salt train for a while and even I can recognize a cool new mechanic when I see one.
roflwaffles
Member
New games, aside from Melee, get the largest audience of players and get the spotlight in FGC tournaments, which is the main issue for me.
DBFighterZ just gets alot right from the gameplay footage that MVC:I failed to, IMO of course. An assist system and 3v3 were things that I thought were given in MVC:I when it was announced, and I was sorely disappointed, being a longtime MVC player. Along with the lackluster roster rumors in MVC:I, it's easy to see why DBF looks so hype to a Marvel player.
Also, this is subjective but I know there's a ton of people who agree with me - MVC:I aesthetically looks hideous while DBFighterZ looks beautiful.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
So hype, brehs.
(You literally get a 1-frame window to escape Dirt Nap + Jam Session via guard cancel throw, and not only do you have to burn your once-per-match XF to do it, but you can't even see the opposing character and literally have to guess the exact moment when the hit is coming.)
Yeah I can do without that part. I've had my fill of Zeros over the past 7 years.
Seen countless matches in MVC3 where someone would loose their second and third characters from full health to incoming mix ups. It's dumb.
I also hope there are no death combos from the start of a round in DBZ (and MVCI).
More like fact.
I also hope there are no death combos from the start of a round in DBZ (and MVCI).
More like fact.
Smooth Operator
Member
It's not dumb, it's Marvel. It's part of the reason why i play Marvel.
As long as MvC:I keeps that, i'm cool.
racketpunch
Member
Justin Wong hitting down M with Wolvie against an incoming helm breaker at Evo. There are so many more examples of incoming mixup hype than not. Guard breaks in MVC2? That shit is fucking Marvel.
Doctrine Dark
Member
I love incoming mixups.
But I'm good with them not being in DBF.
But I'm good with them not being in DBF.
Incoming mix ups is like oki/hard knockdown game in GGXrd or corner mix ups in SFV after a throw.
It being bad/good depends on the balance of the game. It's way too ruthless in Marvel 3 of course but it has its moments.
That being said I am still glad DBZ doesn't have incoming mix ups. It's doing something different from the formula which is fine, it's a different game. It might be more curious if Marvel Infinite didn't have incoming.
It being bad/good depends on the balance of the game. It's way too ruthless in Marvel 3 of course but it has its moments.
That being said I am still glad DBZ doesn't have incoming mix ups. It's doing something different from the formula which is fine, it's a different game. It might be more curious if Marvel Infinite didn't have incoming.
No I get that Marvel is supposed to be crazy fast balls-to-the-walls bullshit but incoming mix ups are really dumb. So glad they aren't in DBF
We know half of them and all about how they work and how they fit into gameplay. Don't be obtuse.
I like incoming mixups but not the OD ones in marvel 3. I'm fine with DBF not having them, and hoping MvCI tones them down.
Infinity Stone system is something that looks cool on paper but eeh after SFV's boring V-system i really gotta wait and see. We haven't seen enough of them yet.
Infinity Stone system is something that looks cool on paper but eeh after SFV's boring V-system i really gotta wait and see. We haven't seen enough of them yet.
Eh, I'll take the V-System over Focus Attack any day. But yeah, we need to see the last 3 Infinity Stones.
If anything, the Groove system would be a better analogy.
sixteen-bit
Member
Oh dear
That's a pretty poor analogy imo. Why not liken it to a groove system?
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
the surprise is a Nemesis reveal
Doctrine Dark
Member
It begins....
It's probably the demo. Either that or they're pretending that the leak didn't happen.
DR2K
Banned
You've got a Mika avatar and you don't like bull shit mix ups?
Same. I'm happy that DBZ is trying its own thing tbh. Funny that ASW are trying to tone things down though, I guess they don't want another HnK.
Because it works more similar to the V Trigger system in SFV.
You use your V Skill/Infinity Stone as a special move and it builds up some V Gauge/Infinity Stone meter. You can also build the meter by getting hit (ie. a comeback factor).
Then you activate the V Trigger/Infinity Surge to have an install ability for a set duration of time.
yup i'd bet money this is it.
he plays felicia and taskmaster in marvel tho
He has a surprise for people who go to the booth, like a shirt or something. Jesus.
Or the demo sure, which we already know will be palyable there
playable spidey announcement incoming baby
DR2K
Banned
We don't know what they'll be like in the final version, as we haven't even seen a full match. The mechanics aren't finalized and all the stones havent been shown.
Tizoc
Member
Is that the one with Asura in it or is that Riku's?
Doctrine Dark
Member
I hope Dante gets shown tonight.
Tizoc, Ryce's list didn't have Asura.
Tizoc, Ryce's list didn't have Asura.
Neither, it's...
Captain Marvel
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Hulk
Ultron
Thor
Rocket/Groot
Nova
Ant-Man
Spider-Man
Gamora
Thanos
Doctor Strange
Mega Man X
Morrigan
Ryu
Chun-Li
Spencer
Monster Hunter
Firebrand
Arthur
Jedah
Chris
Dante
Strider Hiryu
Nemesis
Frank West
TRUE ORDER
Member
I thought the same.
Neither it's
Marvel
Ant-Man
Captain America
Captain Marvel
Doctor Strange
Gamora
Hawkeye
Hulk
Iron Man
Nova
Rocket/Groot
Spider-Man
Thanos
Thor
Ultron
Capcom
Arthur
Chris
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Jedah
Monster Hunter
Morrigan
Nemesis
Ryu
Spencer
Strider Hiryu
X
Frank West
Cmon guys this is common knowledge in this thread
Edit: Neoxon'd
I'm surprised we haven't seen pre-conference leaks yet, TBH.
What? Even with a gameplay trailer outlining their capabilities and ueses, your argument is that they can change from now until launch? I mean, no shit, but yeah, this is being difficult for the sake of it.
If you mean MvCI, we already got one of the biggest possible leaks. Maybe they didn't bother digging deeper.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Also want to see the new Iron Man in action.
Tizoc
Member
OK gotcha. I'm still baffled by there being two Makaimura series reps.
DR2K
Banned
They can change drastically and completely especially with so little shown. Just like Chunlis v trigger which turned her into Morrigan in showings to just a generic multi hitting install in the final game.
That would have been hella OP if it stayed.
DR2K
Banned
I agree. Which is why a lot of what we've been shown is likely to be thrown out the window and replaced with something safer.
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