I would be kinda disappointed if it wasn't.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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I would be kinda disappointed if it wasn't.
The U.I. looks drab as fuck where you look at DBZ and it looks slick not unlike most ASW games. Like placeholder U.I. bad. It doesn't help that the new lighting and art style makes most of the cast look like they have those dead fish eyes when the comic look didn't have that issue. The game needs another polish pass to get it to the visual level it needs to be at.
I'm going to have issues picking a team, that's for sure. Captain Marvel is dope, and Nova is really dope too. I'm also enjoying Chun a lot from the demo, and I love me some Spidey... Argh.
And am I crazy? Does this look better than the story demo released? I think it does?
Hellshingu
Member
Yeah he looks great. I liked him in UMvC3 but he was always a little too stiff for my liking. Seems like they made some good adjustments to him that will make him feel much better.
DaytimeWhiskey
Banned
Thanos looking like he's gonna be a problem
TheSpoiler
Member
Thanos boys let's go.
Newniverse
Member
Exactly what I'm thinking. When online, you gunna find some dirty players. I love it.
The fuck? have you even played Marvel 3?
It has true unblockables: Viper Focus is one, and so is charged Firebrand scoop.
Also the mentioned Hulk unblockable is new to this game (charged punch)
Mr. Smiley
Member
Release a versus demo goddammit
TheSpoiler
Member
Even if it was four characters I would fight at least nine of you to get that versus demo.
AWizardDidIt
Member
It's a shame the presentation of this game is so lacking. It looks like it has the mechanics to back up a healthy competitive scene. It'd suck if it doesn't do so hot because capcom didn't put in the effort to shine it up.
Instead we're ending up with another Street Fighter 5 situation where the fundamentals of the game are rock solid but everything surrounding that is a huge bummer.
Instead we're ending up with another Street Fighter 5 situation where the fundamentals of the game are rock solid but everything surrounding that is a huge bummer.
No he wasn't LOL! He was one of the harder characters to play because of his bold canceling. Not to mention all those moves you had to keep track of like a Tekken game.
You could always easily tell the difference between a decent Dante player and a very good Dante player.
SkylineRKR
Member
I actually like this game and like it has no assists etc. But fuck this story. Versus and/or training mode demo please.
lucebuce12
Member
I'm also expecting them to fuck up the balance post-release but that's another story.
Newniverse
Member
If you got nothing out of this stream, at least understand that they are in-fact listening. They've brought up a lot of topics thats been weary in the community. So I have no doubt they full know the presentation of the game is lacking and will fix it.
Honestly it looks like they just streamlined him. Stinger > Bold Cancel > whatever seems to work functionally the same as Stinger > cancelled directly into whatever.
Any post release balancing for a marvel game would be an entirely new phenomenon.
Turbanator
Member
They have to reveal the Soul Gem last, then. That one's going to be incredibly hype.
That combines to the same amount vanilla SFIV got. That's lower than one would expect.
racketpunch
Member
Is that how they described it on stream or your opinion? I want Magneto be like Magneto, eventually.
lucebuce12
Member
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151817125Is that stream you guys are hyped about archived? Just woke up
Yup. And they'll fuck it up.
Capcpom can still make fun as fuck fighting games but they still suck at making them as competitive as possible.
TheSpoiler
Member
Marvel
Balanced
Hmm
Balanced
Hmm
He likes the game so it MUST be fake right? Smh
lucebuce12
Member
I fully expect 80% of the cast to be strong and 20% to be garbage tier. Even WITH the stones that every team can use.
EDIT: But you know what, that's my beef. If you guys enjoy it then go ahead.
Newniverse
Member
Nvm someone already posted it lol
That's not really reacting to feedback with changes as much as explaining their design rationale to address it. They might not have the time/resources to address the visuals in crunch time.
So Marvel then?
Like what has been addressed?
Has it been addressed why there are no X Men characters so far?
What about how many characters are being released?
Why is the DLC system so predatory?
Why is the game releasing in September and not later when it can coincide with major tournaments? Or in the actual holiday season?
Why do some characters look the way they do?
Why does the UI look like a phone game?
Why does the game have a thick ass layer of Chromatic Aberration?
Where are these new modes and contents that you talked about before?
What about the netcode and online stuff?
Why is there no beta for this game like SFV and IJ2?
Why did they not also release a VS demo with training mode for this game?
Why has the communication between fans and Capcom so piss poor for this game?
Why do they go radio silent with the game in between months?
They didn't address shit son.
If anything it's probably the opposite. 20% of the cast is strong and 80% is garbage. Well Marvel 3 wasn't that way but it was like that in older games like Marvel 2.
TheSpoiler
Member
I mean, it depends. Having the gems could equalize things. But the balance rate for mos competitive titles is around that at some point. Shit, MVC3 was less than that. Unless you are system based like Tekken, it's an inevitability.
Not even going to lie, nothing in that Capcom Unity video with Combo and Yipes has increased my interest in the game. Yeah the gameplay is great, I was expecting it, but it's the other stuff that's the problem. My issue with Capcom fighters is never the gameplay. It's always everything else.
lucebuce12
Member
If SFV's esports-esque balancing is anything to go by then that's pretty much what's gonna happen to MvC:I.
IF they do balance once every year then they're gonna be extremely heavy handed with nerfs and have both buffs and nerfs that make absolutely no sense.
But again, this is complaining about something that hasn't happened yet so we should just stick to discussing what's been shown on stream for now.
I'm just pissed because they're gonna try to make this game an e-sport too and then they'll fuck up the balancing. Characters that are in a good place will be sent to the crematorium because of knee-jerk balancing.
But again, let's jut discuss what was shown on stream for now.
BassForever
Member
All the fgc people crying about the single player story focus in trailers and demo and how it's killing your interest are funny. Now that they're showing the hardcore at a stream only watched by the hardcore yall get excited. I think capcom knows better then we've given them credit for with how they're marketing mvci. They don't need to sell the game to the hardcore fgc sheeple, they need to sell it to the scrub sheeple who get excited about cheese one liners and quips in a fighting game story mode.
TheSpoiler
Member
Nah it's something to talk about. If anything, being an e-sport means it has to be more balanced than before. Like, as I said before, there's two types of balancing - technical and feeling. If a game is both, then people are happy. SFV's problem is that it lacks defense, so while tiers are close (besides the lowest dudes, poor FANG), the explosive nature makes it REALLY hard to feel like it is. You can fuck up a Rog but if I'm getting hit by stupid shit like tap, it doesn't matter how technically fair it is.
With this game, they have a ton of defensive options already. Pushblock, character mechanics like Cap's counter, pushing out during tag combos, etc. So at least you have ways, both technical and in the department of feeling, to address balance concerns.
Most Marvel games really didn't give a shit. This looks like the first time they might care. 2 sure in the fuck wasn't balanced and people hold that in high regard.
The problem is that they've needed to do both things. It's great to make up for SFV's launch errors, but they went and ignored what SFV did well.
Newniverse
Member
1. You know why... We all know why. Lets not bring this subject up. There was a ban. Lets not get amnesia here.
2. Why would they even bring this up right now? They havent even shown the whole roster.
3. Predatory? Thats an opinion bro, one thats not too valid at the moment because we are not even sure of whose in the main roser or how many.
4. I agree that does seem off, but thats something we would have to have more information on, such as when this project was even started.
5. Again, it hasnt been addressed YET. Which is why I said they will come around to it.
6. Again, this hasnt been addressed just yet.
7. You got me there buddy. lol
8. Give it time. THey still got plenty of events to reveal shit. You guys are EXTEMELY jumping the gun here.
9. More stuff to be discussed at a later day.
10. I mean you did get a demo... I wouldnt put out a beta either. Especially when players like me are abusing the shit out of the demo and getting prepared to have an upper hand when the game coems out.
11. (Read the last one)
12. You got me on this one again. But they do in fact see whats going on.
13. Because the sole thing you love for them to do is actually their job.
14. They addressed a lot. You didnt pay attention my brotha.
Newniverse
Member
Let me clarify and state for the record... that almost EVEYTHING we think we know is based off rumors... He said, she said...
So you basically just admitted that they didn't actually address shit.
Communication isn't the job of the dudes making the game, it's the job of the people in charge of the communication ie. PR. As far as I can tell, they are either not doing their job or they are doing a very bad job at it. It's possible to both work on the game and communicate with the fans.
Hmm. Interesting, it's probably because I'm use to steep ass learning curves. He was the 1st character I learned how to play in MVC3.
Rather go off rumors and complain. Best case scenario: the rumors are right and they listen, worst case: rumors are off and we are pleasantly surprised.
As opposed to letting them do their standard PR rigmarole and info release cycle and end up on release date with a wack graphics and an underwhelming roster and then kicking ourselves for not letting them know.
Communication is good, even if it is one sided like it has been with Capcom over the last few months. If the rumors are way off and we're complaining about nothing, then they can just ignore us and go about their merry way. If not, I hope someone there is sweating bullets.
Newniverse
Member
No. I stated that they didnt address what YOU WANTED to hear.
1. They adressed the stiffness of the game. A complaint thats been going on here.
2. They addressed the assists being taken out. And how they made up for it with the gems.
3. They addressed how people thought the easy combos was unfair to the advance players, and showed how corny they really are.
Again.. you just wernt listening.
As far as the ban goes, you don't expect Capcom to throw Marvel under the bus, right? The last company to directly address the ban (DeNA with Marvel Mighty Heroes), the game ended not too long afterwards. Now granted, DeNA addressing the Fox ban may not have been the main reason behind the game ending service, but it may have been one of them.
JeTmAn81
Member
FYI Thor had his meter generating move (Mighty Speech) in UMVC3
lucebuce12
Member
MvC:I certainly seems to be no less of an explosive game with no lack of ways for everyone to open people up but it's true, the game generally has much more options in terms of defense. Hell, the increased level of mobility in super jumps alone helps a lot of characters.
They certainly have the potential to make a fun and "balanced" game (Balanced in a Marvel sense where everyone is cheap) but I just don't trust Capcpom after all these years.
I'm legitimately curious to see how good pure zoning is going to be in this game though because so far, it feels like there are so many incredibly strong tools for offense. I guess there are still 2 gems we haven't seen too so I keep hoping one of them is more defense oriented.
Stop it or I'll post pictures of SFV Ken with MvC:I Chun-Li's face.
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