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Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered - PC Features & Specs Revealed

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playsaves3

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Black_Stride said:
Show the PS5 consistently performing like that and not actually more like an RTX 3060.
The gap between the RTX 3060 and RTX 3070 is a frikken gulf.
The PS5 is almost always in RTX 3060 teritory, i think only like Deathstranding has the PS5 punching above its weight class.
Otherwise using console settings on an RTX 3070 will have it fly well into the stratosphere and thats including driver/api overhead.
The PS5 is a long way from an RTX 3070.

I will find them but Just as a head up tje benchmarks have to be using a 3700x and nothing else and if anything I think it would be good to also find 16 gigs of ram used
The CPU is irrelevant in a GPU test, which is why big sites bench with top tier CPUs, to get rid of the bottleneck.
You can’t guarantee that for one and this sounds like an excuse. No one benched the 3080 against a 3090 with different cpus at any resolution
What games beyond the above mentioned do you believe constitute the PS5 being RTX 3070 tier.
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Black_Stride said:
You must have atleast anecdotal evidence to have made such a claim.
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I can get a list but just so you know I’m not doing an Alex battaliga and pairing them with 12900ks they will be paired with 3700x
 
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playsaves3

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MidGenRefresh said:
CPU in PS5 is equivalent to ~ AMD Ryzen 7 3700X. This kind of CPU will not be a bottleneck when running modern games at modern resolutions.
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Nah even in death stranding going from a 3700x to say a 12900k can get you as much as 7 more frames at 4k when targetting 60 which Is more than 10%
 
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playsaves3

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Werewolfgrandma said:
Hey friend good tip is to read the thread and hit quote as you go so you don't have to make 5 posts in a row. When you hit reply it will put the quotes up and you can pick what order to put them in.

Me and @Md Ray did a quick and dirty for deaths stranding and re8. Him a 3070 and me a 3060ti both with 3000 series cpus. Deaths stranding was close to PC but slightly better on both cards and re8 was quite a bit better on both PC's. Like 50% if I recall. Side note my 3060ti out performs his 3070 when I OC and he's stock.
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I assume it was a 3700x correct? My definition of not very far is than 20%
 
//DEVIL//

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Anchovie123 said:
Look at those NVIDIA vs AMD required RT specs.

Imagine buying AMD :pie_roffles::pie_roffles::pie_roffles:
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I have an AMD 6900xt that I got for 720$ cad recently. I don't give a shit about ray tracing and I'll not enable it. So why would I pay more for less performance in resta ?
And less vram than a 3080 too.

And guess what ? In few months both cards and meaningless anyway.

Don't be a fanboy of a company . Be a little smarter than that


To stay on topic. Sony can fuck off with these pricing . This and last of us they can shove it.just like how I bought horizon zero dawn for cheap , will do the same for this early next year.
 
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Black_Stride

Black_Stride

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playsaves3 said:
I assume it was a 3700x correct? My definition of not very far is than 20%
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20% is not far?

But then you also say:
playsaves3 said:
Nah even in death stranding going from a 3700x to say a 12900k can get you as much as 7 more frames at 4k when targetting 60 which Is more than 10%
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7 more fps is significant?


So which is it?
20% isnt significant but 6% is?
Or
Are you just talking shit?




P.S Removing the GPU bottleneck on Deathstranding will net you over 120fps with any modern CPU, the CPU is not much of a bottleneck.
Death-Stranding-CPU-benchmarks.png

^this is with CoffeeLake cores........from 2018.
 
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playsaves3

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yamaci17 said:
yeah even then, death stranding's DLSS implementation is quite all right, you can eliminate particle ghosting with new DLSS DLL files and it works quite nicely outside of that

i did some tests at "default" settings,

at native 4k i get 58-72 FPS, pretty much like ps5 (as it has been said before, and as i said before, this game is pretty geometry-bound, which will scale with high frequency instead of high compute cores available. which is why the 3060ti situation happened with you and the other person)

above all, I love DLSS for power saving feature. amazing fan speed reduction, power consumption reduction and better reconstruction/aa...

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native 4k gets 72 frames in this scene, with 260 watts of power, %99 gpu bound
dlss quality at 4k gets 76 frames... but it is bottlenecked. a %20 gpu headroom available, which would end up rendering 94-100 frames if a more capable CPU was present. this mode gets 205 watts

dlss quality + 60 fps lock + undervolt nets a whopping 105 watts of GPU power consumption lol. no undervolt + high clocks results as 176 watts. practically gpu is dumb enough in this situation not downshifting.

admittedly native 4k is a "tad" bit sharper, but it is nowhere near groundbreaking. it looks pretty decent. its just amazing to see how much efficiently you can have 4k-like image quality at enormously low power consumptions while some people chase 450w+ GPUs. when you compare native 4k unlocked with 270 watts and dlss qua+undervolt 105 watts, the image quality difference simply cant justify the power consumption difference in this case. 2070 and co. will easily get 4k/dlss quality 60 fps in this game, which as i proven above, nearly matches native 4k image quality
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The default setting looks like ps4 pro settings not the ps5 settings
Black_Stride said:
20% is not far?

But then you also say:

7 more fps is significant?


So which is it?
20% isnt significant but 6% is?
Or
Are you just talking shit?




P.S Removing the GPU bottleneck on Deathstranding will net you over 120fps with any modern CPU, the CPU is not much of a bottleneck.
Death-Stranding-CPU-benchmarks.png

^this is with CoffeeLake cores........from 2018.
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Your acting like 6 FPS on a 60fps target isn’t big (that’s at least 10%) and I said less than 20% (the benchmarks between ps5 and 3070 that im talking about have a sub 10% difference)
 
yamaci17

yamaci17

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playsaves3 said:
The default setting looks like ps4 pro settings not the ps5 settings

Your acting like 6 FPS on a 60fps target isn’t big (that’s at least 10%) and I said less than 20% (the benchmarks between ps5 and 3070 that im talking about have a sub 10% difference)
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this is director's cut edition.



5:43

I just took DF's word for it. You can take it up to them. they have actual footage so I will take their word for it. you can present your own results if you have a ps4 pro, ps5 and decent GPU
 
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Black_Stride

Black_Stride

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playsaves3 said:
Your acting like 6 FPS on a 60fps target isn’t big (that’s at least 10%) and I said less than 20% (the benchmarks between ps5 and 3070 that im talking about have a sub 10% difference)
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You dismissed 20% as not being significant....but at the same time you want 7% to be significant?

Im still waiting for those receipts man.
The CPU is irrelevant as long as its 6cores from the modern age.

Show me the PS5 keeping up with the RTX 3070, we have people on this very board with that setup and PS5s who will tell you the 3070 walks a PS5 9.9 times out of 10.

Deathstranding and Valhalla seemingly hate Nvidia so those are outliers.

But lets see those receipts
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yamaci17

yamaci17

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Black_Stride said:
You dismissed 20% as not being significant....but at the same time you want 7% to be significant?

Im still waiting for those receipts man.
The CPU is irrelevant as long as its 6cores from the modern age.

Show me the PS5 keeping up with the RTX 3070, we have people on this very board with that setup and PS5s who will tell you the 3070 walks a PS5 9.9 times out of 10.

Deathstranding and Valhalla seemingly hate Nvidia so those are outliers.

But lets see those receipts
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in ray tracing performance, indeed 3070 feels something akin to ps5 pro. its just a different world, its really surreal. although i firmly believe that console low level API should help ray tracing performance in the long run. tho i played valhalla with my 70, i was never bothered with the performance, actually. in the case of ac valhalla, game seems to be not able to utilize compute cores at 1440p/1080p. 1800p for me seemed like a good spot with optimized settings and a 60 FPS target. technically i played settings lower than consoles, a bit higher resolution and found a happy middleground. card literally begged for more resolution in that game. power consumption at native 1440p with ultra settings were around 170-180 watts, and at 1800p with optimized settings, i managed to bring 240 watts out of it, which tells me something about the scaling

at native 1080p, 6600xt literally ties to the 3070. but you can see that the game does not specifically favor any brands. at 4k, 3070 takes the ball and runs away. the game simply does not like high compute GPUs at lower resolutions. i dont think it is intentionally gimping nvidia performance. this was like this even in ac odyssey. it has to do with their engine, if you ask me. gears 5 also hate compute heavy nvidia gpus at 1080p/1440p
 
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DeepEnigma

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Topher said:
No they are not. They are getting a kickass game with all the dlc for less than console gamers paid.
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And more additional features added to the mix like ultra wide support, etc..

You know what always baffles me about some fellow PC gamers, they flex about spending so much on their rigs, yet act like panhandlers when it comes to games.

Wait… maybe that’s why they do.

Just buy the thing on sale then.
 
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playsaves3

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Black_Stride said:
You dismissed 20% as not being significant....but at the same time you want 7% to be significant?

Im still waiting for those receipts man.
The CPU is irrelevant as long as its 6cores from the modern age.

Show me the PS5 keeping up with the RTX 3070, we have people on this very board with that setup and PS5s who will tell you the 3070 walks a PS5 9.9 times out of 10.

Deathstranding and Valhalla seemingly hate Nvidia so those are outliers.

But lets see those receipts
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6fps out of 60 is not 6%… and i said SUB 20%
 
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playsaves3

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Black_Stride said:
You dismissed 20% as not being significant....but at the same time you want 7% to be significant?

Im still waiting for those receipts man.
The CPU is irrelevant as long as its 6cores from the modern age.

Show me the PS5 keeping up with the RTX 3070, we have people on this very board with that setup and PS5s who will tell you the 3070 walks a PS5 9.9 times out of 10.

Deathstranding and Valhalla seemingly hate Nvidia so those are outliers.

But lets see those receipts
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No one here is showing it dog walking (which means over 30%) they said slight edge which is what I’ve always said. Don’t expect a game that can do at best 4k 30 on ps5 to do 4k 60 or 120 on a 3070
 
Icymanipulator

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As someone who played the ever loving shit out of this game on PS4, I’m excited for PC only players to play it for the first time. You guys are gonna love this game, best Spider-Man game ever made imo.
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

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playsaves3 said:
No one here is showing it dog walking (which means over 30%) they said slight edge which is what I’ve always said. Don’t expect a game that can do at best 4k 30 on ps5 to do 4k 60 or 120 on a 3070
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Im still waiting for those receipts.
Stop dodging and misdirecting, beyond DS:DC and AC: Valhalla what games.....and thats [lural games have the PS5 in RTX 3070 territory instad of RTX 3060 territory.
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playsaves3 said:
6fps out of 60 is not 6%… and i said SUB 20%
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An RTX 3070 at PS5 settings doesnt run games at 60 it goes beyond that easily so why would you use 60?
You are purposely leaving horsepower on the table to make the RTX 3070 look bad?
 
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playsaves3

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Black_Stride said:
Im still waiting for those receipts.
Stop dodging and misdirecting, beyond DS:DC and AC: Valhalla what games.....and thats [lural games have the PS5 in RTX 3070 territory instad of RTX 3060 territory.
i-wanna-see-the-receipts-receipts.gif



An RTX 3070 at PS5 settings doesnt run games at 60 it goes beyond that easily so why would you use 60?
You are purposely leaving horsepower on the table to make the RTX 3070 look bad?
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Im talking in games targetting 60. I found one game but the bench isn’t accurate cause the ps5 is still in BC mode it’s zero dawn
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
playsaves3 said:
Im talking in games targetting 60. I found one game but the bench isn’t accurate cause the ps5 is still in BC mode it’s zero dawn
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So you have no receipts and are arbitrarily locking the RTX 3070 to 60fps?
At which point you might as well say the PS5 and an RTX 3090Ti perform the same at PS5 settings because they both vsync to 60fps.

How frikken stupid.
Im embarrassed having wasted this much time on you.

Dont @ me until you get serious.
 
BadBurger

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I have already played through the game twice, but so tempted to get it again just to see the improvements and native 4K @ 60. I do have $18 and some change in my Steam wallet, so it wouldn't be a full $60 buy....
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Midn1ght said:
We still need an official dongle to enjoy full DualSense features wirelessly. Come on Jim!
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I still dont understand what kind of arbitrary NonSense it is that we cant use all the DualSense features with Bluetooth.
Sony should just say you need to have version xx of BlueTooth for full DualSense support, those who have the right hardware enjoy, those that dont it falls back to the current implementation.

Needing a USB cable to enjoy the full DualSense features is garbo.
 
JackSparr0w

JackSparr0w

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DeepEnigma said:
And more additional features added to the mix like ultra wide support, etc..

You know what always baffles me about some fellow PC gamers, they flex about spending so much on their rigs, yet act like panhandlers when it comes to games.

Wait… maybe that’s why they do.

Just buy the thing on sale then.
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Ultrawide support is not a feature, it's the bare minimum to expect from a PC game.

Anyway, max I would spend for spider man is $10.
 
Tomi

Tomi

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MidGenRefresh said:
Always check CDKeys. Like 9 out of 10 times when I want to buy a game on Steam, there's a cheaper option there. It's possible that the price will drop further as we get closer to the release.
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allkeys also, i never ever bought something off steam because i always find cheaper option on allkeys, and i dont understand people when they get excited when steam have some sale promotions because i always find a cheaper option
 
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yamaci17

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Filben said:
Love that!

And hate that so many games don't support it even if their PS5 counter part version have it.
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yeah now waiting for dualsense support for Stray on PC. after experiencing what haptic feedbacks add to a game in death stranding, i simply refuse to play stray without haptic feedback

thankfully i managed to refund the game. i'm glad steam allows this. i actually preoredered the game 2 months ago. some might see this as a petty reason but i dont see it that way.

if no games supported it, i could say, "well maybe it takes work to do implement it for pc or something". but no. even the ubisoft added haptic + adaptive triggers to valhalla. and it works gracefully. they even went to the lenghts of adding adaptive triggers to rainbow 6. for a game that is played by keyboard and mouse by %99 of the people, probably. at this point i see no reason why stuff is not added. the features and implementations are already there.
 
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playsaves3

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Black_Stride said:
So you have no receipts and are arbitrarily locking the RTX 3070 to 60fps?
At which point you might as well say the PS5 and an RTX 3090Ti perform the same at PS5 settings because they both vsync to 60fps.

How frikken stupid.
Im embarrassed having wasted this much time on you.

Dont @ me until you get serious.
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Not all games offer unlocked framerates on ps5 which is part of the reason but even then I aim to find games that despite targetting 60 they drop frames on both ps5 and 3070 like death stranding. Can you stop the condescension especially when you clearly don’t get what my argument is
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

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playsaves3 said:
Not all games offer unlocked framerates on ps5 which is part of the reason but even then I aim to find games that despite targetting 60 they drop frames on both ps5 and 3070 like death stranding. Can you stop the condescension especially when you clearly don’t get what my argument is
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I already pointed out that Death Stranding and Valhalla have some weird performance issues on PC.

You stated the PS5 IS around RTX3070 levels of performance.
You have yet to provide a persistent showing of the PS5 performing like an RTX 3070 to justify stating that the PS5 is around RTX 3070 levels. 1 or 2 outliers are just that....outliers.

You are either purposely being obtuse or simply ignorant because your statement is quite clearly false as there isnt any benchmarks that support your argument.
This is a forum and im always willing to learn something new, maybe you should take the same approach.
If you have data to back up your claims then please provide it and ill concede that the PS5 is in RTX3070 territory of performance.

So you either have receipts or you dont.
If you dont then just say ohh snap i might be wrong, the PS5 is more liekly in RTX 3060 territory not RTX 3070.
 
ZywyPL

ZywyPL

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Black_Stride said:
If you dont then just say ohh snap i might be wrong, the PS5 is more liekly in RTX 3060 territory not RTX 3070.
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With equivalent settings, 3060 is already better than consoles and their artificially locked FPS and resolution, 3060Ti blows them out of the water, and if a game supports DLSS there's really nothing left from the consoles. And within half a year or so probably an entry level GPU a. k.a. 4050 will leave them into dust. But there will still be those few silly people shouting slogans like 'secret souce', 'coding to the metal', 'next-gen' and so on, completely neglecting the hardware limitations, the spec sheets that have been officially posted almost two years ago.
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

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ZywyPL said:
With equivalent settings, 3060 is already better than consoles and their artificially locked FPS and resolution, 3060Ti blows them out of the water, and if a game supports DLSS there's really nothing left from the consoles. And within half a year or so probably an entry level GPU a. k.a. 4050 will leave them into dust. But there will still be those few silly people shouting slogans like 'secret souce', 'coding to the metal', 'next-gen' and so on, completely neglecting the hardware limitations, the spec sheets that have been officially posted almost two years ago.
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Ive been going back and forth with that guy for a while.
And I dont even understand where the whole a PS5 matches an RTX 3070 comes from.
Cuz this might be the first time ive ever heard that.
i know there are some games which have weird performance issues like Death Stranding, but generally speaking the RTX 3070 is in a different league.
 
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