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[RagnarokIV]

Make Windows XP again

I still use it a lot, my XP PC is constantly used for games, music and other stuff.

 

[TVexperto]

They fucking do this every year ... next year will be the year of (insert here: xbox, pc, windows handheld gaming, etc)

 

[kruis]

Windows is in the worst state it's been for years - and it's right when home and enterprise users are forced to abandon W10 and move to W11. MS is such a clown show....

 

[Elios83]

I'm still on Windows 10 but this year I'll probably replace my 6 years old notebook so I guess I'll be kinda forced to upgrade.
It doesn't seem like Win11 is considered to be a really good OS though especially for gaming, although it's not a disaster like Vista/8?

 

[Soodanim]

Microsoft actually thinks people having to buy new hardware are going to choose Windows, lol.

That's exactly what's going to happen. We sit in these threads hoping Valve can bring some sort of growth to Linux to make it a more viable alternative to Windows for gaming.

Average consumers will go out and buy a new computer rather than learn a new OS.

The simple truth is that the vast majority of people are going to stick with Windows through thick and thin.

 

[Loope]

I just got dispensed a new computer at work and it has Windows 11. It's got popups about all kinds of dumb shit and the start menu has to load in crap. Its up against 16gb just doing browser work. I feel sorry for people who do this at home.

No problems whatsoever and i use it with pretty heavy stuff on both desktop and laptop. Once you turn that stuff off it's smooth breeze. Also at work all computers have windows 11.

I work at an engineering firm, can't really see the huge problems everyone seems to complain about, especially the performance.

 

[YCoCg]

It'll be the year of SteamOS if Valve ever gets it ready.

 

[emivita]

LOL I even completely blocked Windows Update with a 3rd party software because of severe OS issues with my notebook configuration, no chance I'm gonna update to 11.

 

[V1LÆM]

I use 11 on my PC and have for a long time now. It did suck the first year but I could never go back to 10 now.

I also use MacOS.

I have tried Linux countless times and every single time something goes wrong or takes fucking hours to try fix. I always go back to Windows and to be honest I don’t see myself ditching it completely.

Hopefully SteamOS is more friendly to users but it still has a long way to go.

 

[M1chl]

Windows

 

[pudel]

I am on dual boot Linux/Windows10 and will keep it like that. Windows for gaming stuff. Linux for everything else. But every Windows change is the most horrible thing for me. I hate it by heart. It usually takes me hours to configure this awful OS to make it less spy. I would really like to get rid of Windows completely....but it seems to me that its still the best in terms of hassle free gaming. (correct me if iam wrong in that regard)

 

[BacklashWave534]

MacOS for work, and SteamOS for gaming would be ideal. Unforunately all the damn launchers and anticheats make using SteamOS difficult.

 

[CobraAB]

No.

vista was good.

 

[Griffon]

 

[VolticArchangel]

Nah....I'm good. I finally figured out how to get the cup holder to work.

I will not take this physical media slander, you WOKE MODERN GAMING DIGITAL DOWNLOAD SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR!

 

[James0007]

XP > 10 > 98

As soon as SteamOS has a desktop version stable with decent(ish) NVIDIA support I’m switching over.

It seems like every other reboot Win11 installs another ‘feature’ I have to chase around switching off. I want my OS light so I can dedicate maximum resources from the CPU & GPU to gaming, not to whatever Microsoft wants to ram down my gullet.

Having travelled a bit using steam deck docked on occasion, I’ve gotten used to the desktop Linux environment it ships with & now I have a MacBook for work (audio & video editing) I realise SteamOS, whether docked or big picture mode has everything I need.

 

[Wolzard]

Vista was fucking DOG SHIT. When Windows 7 dropped, I heard Angels sing and the world was righted.

Vista SP2 is exactly Windows 7. There was rebranding because Vista got a bad reputation.

 

[Melon Husk]

2025 year of the Linux... at last

 

[Celcius]

24H2 is the jankiest release I've ever used. MS really needs to work on the bug fixes

 

[diffusionx]

I'm still on Windows 10 but this year I'll probably replace my 6 years old notebook so I guess I'll be kinda forced to upgrade.
It doesn't seem like Win11 is considered to be a really good OS though especially for gaming, although it's not a disaster like Vista/8?

Vista had two problems. The new driver model - a lot of existing hardware did not work properly without updated drivers. The increased hardware requirements - MS in their genius tried to lowball the requirements so a lot of people bought hardware that just didn't run well on it. But as an OS, it was good. Windows 7 was basically a service pack for Vista, and benefitted from the advancements in hardware.

8 had one problem, the UI was basically unusuable and horrible for a desktop. But as an OS, it was refined from 7.

Windows 11, MS is obviously in over their skis, the people they have working on it obviously do not know what they are doing, they can't fix basic problems, their new framework for apps is terrible (compare nu-Outlook to old one), they can't update it properly, they are trying to turn it into a service like Android when it was never that and shouldn't be that.

 

[Fake]

SteamOS will save us.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Windows 11 is DEI developed trash

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

At present W11 23H2 is working great for me. Zero complaints.

 

[Nydius]

I’m using 11 but only because I bought a new laptop that had it preinstalled by the OEM and I didn’t feel like going through the hassle of manually downgrading it to 10.

I’ve gotten used to it but I’m not a fan. Too much bloat, too much internet enabled crap on my screen and start menus that I can’t easily disable without needing to go registry or group policy crawling.

Windows 11 is doing more to push me toward Linux than any other iteration of Windows.

 

[AJUMP23]

I have no reason to upgrade.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

vista was good.

Just stop it.

 

[GrayDock]

Isn't this Meddi guy the one from the 'tv, tv, tv' off the X1 announcement? Not very good results come from his marketing...

 

[Magister]

I want to ditch Windows, but my work requires its software, so I'm fucked. MacOS at least has alternative software for my work and MS Office apps which I absolutely need because document formatting is a part of my work. I may get a new laptop from work, but those cheapskates will probably get me a Windows one. It's time to save money for yet another thing. There's already too much shit I want to own.

vista was good.

So good that it had no sound until 3 more restarts.

 

[Fess]

24H2 is the jankiest release I've ever used. MS really needs to work on the bug fixes

All I hear about 24H2 is how bad it is. I’m still on 23H2, staying on that until forced away, I have zero issues there on both PCs I use daily. Are there any improvements at all on 24H2?

 

[BennyBlanco]

More useless bloat incoming. Efficiently spying on you through the power of a 80 billion dollar investment in ML. Save us Gabe.

 

[StereoVsn]

I do have a gaming PC that’s Win11 and another Win11 gaming PC for the kids. Both are heavily customized to “decrappify” as much as I can and remove various MS monitoring items.

But for anything other than gaming it’s Mac, which is pricey but worth it ,and MacBook Air laptops work fine for kids and my wife.

Next step is to convert a Win10 emulation and Steam PC to Linux and maybe migrate kids’ PC as well info can make Minecraft Java to work properly there.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

That's exactly what's going to happen. We sit in these threads hoping Valve can bring some sort of growth to Linux to make it a more viable alternative to Windows for gaming.

Average consumers will go out and buy a new computer rather than learn a new OS.

The simple truth is that the vast majority of people are going to stick with Windows through thick and thin.

Average consumers don't even need a desktop OS, they can get by with their phones just fine. It's more likely they won't upgrade at all, running Windows 10 until the device stops working or switching to a mobile OS. Businesses and gamers are the two core markets that rely on Windows. Business is going nowhere, but there is real opportunity for Linux gaming to take off.

 

[RCX]

I declare this the year of telling Microsoft to go fuck themselves.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Vista was fucking DOG SHIT. When Windows 7 dropped, I heard Angels sing and the world was righted.

Windows Vista PC’s that were sold barely met system spec. Vista and 7 functioned similarly.

 

[UnrealEck]

Really hope nVidia get their Linux drivers sorted so we can have SteamOS on desktops with their graphics.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

I just got dispensed a new computer at work and it has Windows 11. It's got popups about all kinds of dumb shit and the start menu has to load in crap. Its up against 16gb just doing browser work. I feel sorry for people who do this at home.

it takes my win10 work laptop ~4 minutes to reach the desktop after i enter my login info.
and browser + email + teams = ~16gb

my gaming win11 home pc is at ~5gb at desktop.
but i also use an unofficial version

 

[tylrdiablos]

What's the current deal with Windows 11 and TPM's? Last I heard you need one (on your motherboard?) to install Windows 11.
But recently I've been looking at the new AM5 boards for the 9800X3D and don't seen a TPM on them. I even downloaded the manual for the Asrock Nova X870E to double-check and there's no mention of it.

 

[Soodanim]

Average consumers don't even need a desktop OS, they can get by with their phones just fine. It's more likely they won't upgrade at all, running Windows 10 until the device stops working or switching to a mobile OS. Businesses and gamers are the two core markets that rely on Windows. Business is going nowhere, but there is real opportunity for Linux gaming to take off.

Even within gaming I think it's easy to overestimate how many people are willing to even try Linux. That's why someone like Valve is needed to give people the easy road

 

[sono]

One of the practical challenges of upgrading is that ot says that a lot of existing pcs and laptops are not compatible so this will not be the year

 

[dem]

At my work we've been given the directive to upgrade to Windows 11 this year.

Trying not to think about it

 

[Clintizzle]

I just removed Windows 11 from my old Surface Pro 8 and installed ChromeOS. So much better.

 

[grvg]

Haven't used Windows in about 15 years, is it now worse than it was back then?

The os taking screenshots of your desktop and storing them in an unencrypted folder is mandatory now, if that sheds some light on the situation for you at all

 

[Crayon]

it takes my win10 work laptop ~4 minutes to reach the desktop after i enter my login info.
and browser + email + teams = ~16gb

my gaming win11 home pc is at ~5gb at desktop.
but i also use an unofficial version

When we were private, our IT team used linux to set up many workstations depending on their use. When we were acquired, we switched to ms of course. Luckily the IT team was cool and let me cling to the very last linux machine for as long as they could cover for me.

Looks like I'll have to do what I did with my last computer and buy my own ram. Only one IT guy sees that I dick around like that and he turns a blind eye.

 

[Meowtor]

What's the current deal with Windows 11 and TPM's? Last I heard you need one (on your motherboard?) to install Windows 11.
But recently I've been looking at the new AM5 boards for the 9800X3D and don't seen a TPM on them. I even downloaded the manual for the Asrock Nova X870E to double-check and there's no mention of it.

Wondering this as well as I have 2 boxes running 10 with no TPM chips. Absolutely have 0 need to upgrade my hardware for win 11, like I just don't get it.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Yusuf Medhi? I thought they were rid of that fucking moron.

Anyway, a bunch of grandstanding statements and them some bullshit about AI - I'm sticking to Windows 10 for my next build. I don't want any part of Microsoft's newfound dystopia.

 

[Gaelyon]

So 60% of PCs are still using Windows 10 and the marketshare of W11 is shrinking instead of gaining ground, and MS announce that they stop W10 support this year, obviously. At work we have a few hundreds PC all using W10... Meanwhile on W11 you still have the right click second menu for using original W10 features. Skillwise it should be called Nanosoft instead of Microsoft.

 

[JayK47]

I've got 3 computers on Windows 10. One of them had Windows 7 on it and the upgrade to 10, the "last" windows OS we were told, was free. So now Windows 11 is not compatible with any of these computers. I guess I stay on Windows 10 until they have hardware failure and I replace them.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I just got dispensed a new computer at work and it has Windows 11. It's got popups about all kinds of dumb shit and the start menu has to load in crap. Its up against 16gb just doing browser work. I feel sorry for people who do this at home.

Never saw any pop up here, start menu has only what I want and uses 4GB just using browser. I try to maintain it the most clean/minimalist possible. Someone installed tons of fucked up shit on your work computer.

 

[Crayon]

Never saw any pop up here, start menu has only what I want and uses 4GB just using browser. I try to maintain it the most clean/minimalist possible. Someone installed tons of fucked up shit on your work computer.

Yeah I thought that they have versions for businesses that are cleaned up. Mine sucks! It doesn't look like there's anything third-party on it, though. Besides acrobat, security shit, and that sort of stuff. But not sure but it seems like this is how the computer would come out of the box.

 

[pudel]

What's the current deal with Windows 11 and TPM's? Last I heard you need one (on your motherboard?) to install Windows 11.
But recently I've been looking at the new AM5 boards for the 9800X3D and don't seen a TPM on them. I even downloaded the manual for the Asrock Nova X870E to double-check and there's no mention of it.

After a quick search it seems there are ways to get a clean install without TPM/without MS account/without secure boot.