travisktl
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There's also Summer Game Fest going on all summer, which has a Cyberpunk thing and EA Play in June.
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Ahhh okay I knew I was forgetting some things. Thanks. That makes sense then. Don’t wanna crowd June up with everything.
Wish we had a thread dedicated to all the events happening
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Bo_Hazem
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$1.4 trillion theoretical number again? You know what? I drop it here.
Gamernyc78
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Speak for yourself. Not everyone is interested in a rental service full of indie to AA titles with a sprinkle of MS exclusives. I mean, it's fine for a dollar a month but when their promo ends, and it's inevitable it will end one day, a lot of those 10 million 1-dollar customers will cancel their subs. What will happen to the Xbox division then?
They should've started acquiring those studios 3-4 years ago. What the hell were they thinking? "Let's make new hardware and we'll think about software later?" If they hadn't said that themselves, I'd have thought that launching a console without exclusives is a story from someone's ass because no platform holder would do that. But here we are...
He's just parroting what he was told to think.
I had gamepass for a month, played Gears 5 mp and the game for like three days then unsubscribed. None of those old games kept me or the AA recore, Sea of Thieves, etc
Agnostic2020
Member
Since sony is going early june the earliest we can expect announcement from the is next Tuesday onwards .I would say 2 Tuesdays from now so around 26 sony will tease and announce the date
He's become sort of a meme.
One of these days, one of them, he will be correct!
Neo Blaster
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Ubisoft is the only big publisher not listed among the ones in SGF site, probably won't be included since they've already announced their own event.
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Witcher&Coder
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Who said it is a theoretical number ? Its a collated statistic.
Let me give you a simple example,
In USA, a home that yields 1000$ monthly rental, costs ~ 400,000$ (median). Take the ratio (33.33) and apply it to a business,
A business making 45bn$ (projected this year profits of Microsoft), it would be valued at 33.33*45bn = 1499 bn $.
How does it sound ? Now,in the biggest US cities, where the education/oppurtunities are the best, the home prices are even higher.
Move on from the net worth wars meta in here, and bring it to a sales-age thread. This goes for everyone.
3liteDragon
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Witcher&Coder
Banned
Mod of War
My last msg on this topic.
Bo_Hazem
You are saying cash, then revenue. Stick to one point. Sony is also a traded public entity. The rules that apply to Ms, apply to Sony as well. You are trolling without facts, at this point. I am teaching all this to you, to make you rich brother .
sircaw
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If my games are not 8k 240 fps this generation, you and me are going to have some serious words SIR.
Oh yer, if i mis gendered you, sorry about that.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
If you say so, bro. I'm allergic to axes though, so let's move on.
sircaw
Banned
If you say so, bro. I'm allergic to axes though, so let's move on.
No more chat-chat from you Mr Bo_hazem but some of your awesome Gifs are always welcome.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
sircaw
Banned
DO it, i got your Back............................honest.Not sure about GIF's, I'm walking on thin ice:
Bladed Thesis
Member
"No, my uncle's best friend's cousin's in-laws make more money than your uncle's best friend's cousin's in-laws!"
Next gen should be sick. Let's be happy and keep this thread flying. 2020 pages before we see legit stuff please.
Next gen should be sick. Let's be happy and keep this thread flying. 2020 pages before we see legit stuff please.
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Yeah those AA titles like gta5 and RDR2
sircaw
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As you can see, very trusting.
Bo_Hazem
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Games Dean
Member
Why? He lied in here for months. If he had stuck around and taken his lumps I would've been fine with it, but he peaced out instead. The dude played us all for fools, at least those of us who actually believed his nonsense. Good riddance.
sircaw
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which half though, they both so pretty.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I still believe that him and his sources got confused with the total TF. The CPU/GPU and the equivalent of 11x zen2 cores in the i/o, the GPU-based tempest engine, an alien API that used incompatible app to calculate TF's = gross, inaccurate collective TF.
I personally give him the benefit of the doubt.
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thebigmanjosh
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May not be the same but we had to make decisions like this at my company. We had hard dates for events/unveil, and because of COVID-19, we took it as an opportunity to delay a few weeks and strategize around unique virtual engagements.
I’m sure Ubi did the same once E3 wasn’t a thing. It’s easier to ride the coattails of a major event like that than plan your own, especially with how much everything has changed/been impacted lately.
Bo_Hazem
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ethomaz
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That is not what happened.
There is a Digitimes report from Supply Chain but you need to pay to read.
Xbox Series X SSDs Will be Powered by Phison Controller, Report Claims
A recent DigiTimes report gives us a hint of what's to come with the Xbox Series X
You can read here too: https://www.ithome.com/0/468/512.htm
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Games Dean
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I can see where you're coming from. I'd be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn't done this before (PS4 pro).
Shoutout Heisenberg for sticking around though. Good contributor to the thread and was much closer to official specs than other "insiders".
TBiddy
Member
That is not what happened.
There is a Digitimes report from Supply Chain but you need to pay to read.
Xbox Series X SSDs Will be Powered by Phison Controller, Report Claims
A recent DigiTimes report gives us a hint of what's to come with the Xbox Series Xwww.tomshardware.com
It was, along with the above. When are you posting that “official confirmation” you were talking about?
We both know that official confirmation doesn’t exist.
ethomaz
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And you create a false rumor about linkdn lol
You can read here too: https://www.ithome.com/0/468/512.htm
BTW you probably can't open the Digitimes reports so I will transcript.
"In addition, memory device controller IC suppliers including Phison Electronics and Silicon Motion Technology are also poised to embrace strong demand for SSDs for gaming consoles in 2020, the sources noted. Phison has reportedly broken into the supply chain of Microsoft's Xbox, while Silicon Motion has seen orders for home consoles with built-in SSDs surge. "
Memory backend firms positive about demand for flash devices
Memory backend specialists have expressed optimism about demand for SSDs and other flash-based devices in 2020, while being upbeat about NAND flash chip prices this year.
www.digitimes.com
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TBiddy
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That’s not an official confirmation from Phison. When are you posting it?
The LinkedIn story was very real. You can see the image and the tweet for crying out loud.
TBiddy
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I'll bite. What are you basing your claim on, that the XSX is unable to "effectively saturate a 2.5 GB SSD"?
Gediminas
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i am only one who thinks that we are going to get a small show or State of Play in the end of the month? like sneak peak what's coming?
The E19 controller has a max speed of 3.7GB/s from what I’ve read and can support up to 2TB. Also, most likely MSFT customized it for their needs. On the other hand, someone on reddit made a good case for why the PS5 SSD controller is a custom variant of the more advanced e16 controller.
Bryank75
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Precisely... it's in one of the Inocenceii videos, he explains why he is impressed with the PS5 SSD and the differences between it and Xbox's SSD with a nice animated illustration.
Metroiddarks
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I think both side a lost a reason of why the generation changes is not only is before was possible to do A thing is because in order to accomplish A they need to expend to many
time and money to be worth so A never was released not because was not possible if not they will not see worth to do all the require works.
So now with a good CPU and SSD they can do things than before was not possible but more important reasonable do it, Cerny don't want the games just see another increment
in price production that is why he cares so much what the dev think, that is why Xbox follow a similar approach.
For example Medium for XSX a true new gen exclusive which says:
"I can't tell you right now about our most important feature, because we will have to save it for later. But the gameplay mechanic built around those two worlds couldn't be fully realized
on current-gen hardware. This is something that I think will distinguish our game from any other. It's also even patented. So yeah, the game simply cannot work the same way on current-gen
platforms. And that's why we are developing the game for Xbox Series X, plus PC." "I can't tell you right now about our most important feature, because we will have to save it for later. But the
gameplay mechanic built around those two worlds couldn't be fully realized on current-gen hardware. This is something that I think will distinguish our game from any other. It's also even
patented. So yeah, the game simply cannot work the same way on current-gen platforms. And that's why we are developing the game for Xbox Series X, plus PC."
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/x...ror-game-the-mediums-key-fe/1100-6476952/#nnn
For the example your for PS4/Xbox one one thing the last generation before of this has issue was with memory that with 512 MB was a pain in the ass so for the studios so
for example now games like for example Spiderman can use its memory as streaming pool which allows to improve a lot quantity of NPC and detail in the environment,
this before was possible yes but was easy? hell not, not even close.
Even some dream so high in the beginning than fails like that Paris full of NPCs in AC Unity, the thing the actual generation improve basically two things GPU and Memory but
thing like HDD and even the CPU (yeah more core easy to use but very weak) was the same basically since 2006 and that cause many problems in the moment to decide
what kind of thing your game can has.
That one of the reason of why publishers like EA and even Ubisoft will have titles only for the new gen because do a similar work in a XSX is cheaper and faster than do it in
Xbox one. Imagine you are an engineer of 343 and you had in charge to manipulate the AI for the NPC and you know you can put I don't know 10 NPCs in Xbox One and 40 NPCs
in XSX you can think doesn't matter I just do it.... well yeah is not so simple first because your QA department saw how the difficult increment a lot in the new version compare
the new version with old version and you just cannot change the damage of each enemy because that will not feel as the creative director wants.
That problem is impossible to solve not is not but cost money, time and also cut the liberty of the creative director because he is just cannot make crazy in his wants and even
some possible solution for X problem only can do in the new XSX because they need to use RT for very specific stuff.
TBiddy
Member
To be honest, I have absolutely no idea who Inocenceii is. I was asking you. Why do you think the XSX will be unable to "effectively saturate" the SSD they've chosen? Not enough memory? To little bandwidth? Poor choice of controller? I would assume that after spending 5-6 years on R&D for the console, it would be a small feat (all things considered) to create a console that would be able to saturate the SSD you've chosen.
In other news - it seems like ethomaz once again decided to leave a discussion after being unable to provide a source for his claims. At least he decided to heed the advice he previously got: "It's time to stop posting".
Bryank75
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I'm just relaying what I've seen explained in the video's I've watched and then based my own position on the feedback dev's seem to be giving about how effective it is....
Of course I have my own biases too. I'd like to think the extra costs PlayStation incurred will actually result in a very tangible difference..... It would be very surprising if it didn't.
TBiddy
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Considering the SSD in the PS5 is about twice as fast, I'd say that's a very tangible difference. But I think it's important to note that just because the PS5 SSD is ridiculously fast, the XSX SSD is still extremely fast.
IntentionalPun
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Bryank75
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Here is his channel.. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDMF4SaMIIfltWQcLTrYMrw
Without me having privileged info, I can only guess why they didn't.... I suppose it all comes down to cost / benefit. They probably wanted the tflop crown more than the SSD one and estimated that it would benefit them more (which so far is correct).
The man-power, cost and trade-offs (opportunity cost) of spending extra time on something that they didn't think would benefit them optimally, just might have not seemed to be worth it.
silent head
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Ubisoft Confirms Assassin's Creed Valhalla Running at 4K@30 on Xbox Series X
A Ubisoft representative confirmed that Assassin's Creed Valhalla will be running 'at a minimum' of 30 frames per second on the Xbox Series X
wccftech.com
TBiddy
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I'll see if I can find the video in question, but I gotta say - it sounds very unlikely that Microsoft would be able to design an otherwise extremely powerful console, only to completely ignore the SSD they've selected.
Bryank75
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Yeah, that's kinda what I'm saying.... the xbox team may have said 'we can spend loads of time on the SSD and make it a bit faster or use that time and money on other areas'.....
They just didn't put that amount of importance on it. Having 'an SSD' is all most people will hear, they won't get into speeds.
RicochetBullet
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I don't see a reason for a may State of play if they're going big in june. An announcement for the reveal, sure, but more than that is improbable.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
But where did this guy:
Just a guy who plays games so you don't have to. But of course, you're welcome to join
... get that from?
I think that's what
TBiddy
is asking. Is it from some released info or just what some guy on YouTube is saying?
Imtjnotu
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Ban him till next Wednesday so he doesn't have to do it next TuesdayHe's become sort of a meme.
One of these days, one of them, he will be correct!
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