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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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dottme

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saintjules said:





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Let be honest. I've never believed that every game were going to be 60fps. But what is terrible is they cannot keep their promise up to launch. I cannot believe when he put his previous tweet he wasn't already aware of some game running at 30fps.
 
Andodalf

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KiNeMz said:
More rumour and speculation

www.notebookcheck.net

Supposed PS5 premium and basic starter pack SSD storage sizes and prices revealed in new PlayStation 5 hearsay

A currently unproven rumor on social media has claimed that there will be two starter pack variants of the PlayStation 5, with a premium pack offering a larger capacity SSD than the basic console pack. The same post also includes prices for the two PS5 options, at €499 (US$540) for the basic...
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Can’t imagine Sony wants to say 599 USD
 
THE:MILKMAN

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KiNeMz said:
More rumour and speculation

www.notebookcheck.net

Supposed PS5 premium and basic starter pack SSD storage sizes and prices revealed in new PlayStation 5 hearsay

A currently unproven rumor on social media has claimed that there will be two starter pack variants of the PlayStation 5, with a premium pack offering a larger capacity SSD than the basic console pack. The same post also includes prices for the two PS5 options, at €499 (US$540) for the basic...
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It falls down on the pricing. No way do Sony ever do 499/599. PS3 price was Sony's hubris/Icarus moment to quote Shawn Layden just over a year ago.
 
LED Guy?

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I expected Assassin’s Creed Valhalla to run at 30FPS on next-gen consoles, I mean, the game is already poorly optimized on PC as it is.

If PS4/XB1 Jaguar CPUs can run that same game at 30 FPS, then Xbox Series X & PS5 can run that game at a way higher FPS, 120 FPS or above that’s if we take the CPU alone, there’s just no way a Jaguar CPU can be as powerful as a Ryzen 7 3700X CPU that’s in these consoles.

It is Ubisoft’s poorly optimized engines, or maybe they’ll use Ray Tracing techniques and push the game with ultra settings at Native 4K and there you go, that’s your AC Valhalla on your next-gen consoles.

But hey, expect many more games to run at 30 FPS, but what I am waiting for is the full-on next-generation games being built from the ground up, games that will show us the true power of these next-gen consoles, I wanna see how Horizon Zero Dawn 2 will look like on PS5 and I wanna see how Hellblade 2 looks like.
 
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Games Dean

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Do I think thats what it is? Nope
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I wouldn't be so sure. Geoff saw how expectations ruined what would've been a fine event last week. People are speculating that he's doing the PS5 reveal on Wednesday and he has not told people to temper their expectations or otherwise to not speculate that it's the very thing he knows a lot of people want to see.

I think this is it. And I think Sony tells us about it tomorrow.

Now that I've said that, I'm ready for Sony to make me look like a fool😂
 
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THE:MILKMAN said:
It falls down on the pricing. No way do Sony ever do 499/599. PS3 price was Sony's hubris/Icarus moment to quote Shawn Layden just over a year ago.
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$299 would kill Microsoft's plans of a potential Lockhart machine and force them to adjust XSX's price to stay competitive.

Burning a big hole in Microsoft's wallet. Sony would too have to burn some extra doug per sold SKU but nowhere as much as Microsoft with its two consoles, each costing them $300 to $500 per SKU.

But at $299 neither Sony or Microsoft would be able to fullfil the huge demand.

If there's a Lockhart it going to be a $99 box, no drive, no SSD, no WiFi, euro scart only and meant for xCloud.

Just a streaming device for Netflix and xCloud 2021.
 
SportsFan581

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geordiemp said:
The 5.5 is MAYBE the lowball uncompressed speed ....thats what lowball means stating a spec lower than it is.

12 wide bus vs 4 wide bus, chips are same speed, Sony averaged lower raw bandwidth IMO.

But we shall see.
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What makes you think the chips are the same speed? The numbers look like they went back a bit and are using speeds in line with higher-end gen3 SSDs. Because if you added another 4 channels to those drives... The cap of gen4 x4 is 7GB/s, and Cerny said you'd need overhead to use an off-the-shelf drive. I wouldn't expect that number to push upward much.

XSX looks to be using chips in line with current gen4 SSDs (4.8/5), but taking 4 channels away.
 
Apollo Helios

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Tomorrow (Tuesday) might be bust but Wednesday one which is described below might be the bomb and I suspect will be PS5 design reveal since it coincides with Sony FY2019 meeting.

May 13 11A ET / 8A PT SGF Special Event
Tune in for a special Summer Game Fest showcase and interview with Geoff Keighley

If both are bust then SGF/Joff is mostly done for me..
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Apollo Helios said:
Tomorrow (Tuesday) might be bust but Wednesday one which is described below might be the bomb and I suspect will be PS5 design reveal since it coincides with Sony FY2019 meeting.

May 13 11A ET / 8A PT SGF Special Event
Tune in for a special Summer Game Fest showcase and interview with Geoff Keighley

If both are bust then SGF/Joff is mostly done for me..
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Are you still in Monday? I'm already 7:49 hours into Tuesday and nothing happened yet :messenger_winking_tongue:
 
Apollo Helios

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dan_of_orion said:
I'm waiting patiently for the HYPE TRAIN 2.0

R.I.P HYPE TRAIN 1.0 which crash and burned in the most horrific way

But only upwards and onwards from here I Hope.
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Hype Train 1.0 jut got DERAILED not crashed and burned. People just jumped the gun on a figure and missed all the crucial points, rewatching and analyzing 'Road to PS5' and reading people with technical knowledge then jump started the train and put it back on the correct rail... If Sony comes out tomorrow and says Wednesday is design reveal, the internet will break all over again, and all aboard the Hype Train (one and only, the original)
 
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Sinthor

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No chance in hell they do 499/599 usd for pricing. I don't think it even deserves explanation why ffs.
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While I tend to agree that $399 is the preferred pricing....I just don't see how either the PS5 or XBX could get there. I HOPE I'm wrong. But bottom line I DO think Sony could go with a higher price if they knew from the get go that MS was targeting the higher end price territory as well. IF that's the case that MS was...Sony could definitely target a relatively same performance level but in a way that would allow them to go with at least a moderately lower price point. Maybe with some really impressive features as well to try and market to take away more from MS (like a super fast SSD for example).

In the end, it's all speculation and we'll see where things end up once it's all finally revealed. I suspect that both companies were targeting a bit more higher end on the market and for the past 3-4 years at least, the world and especially the US economy would make that a much safer bet. IF that's they way they went though...this Covid-19 business will make this year a BAD time to try and go higher end on price. This may end up hurting both companies.

Still, it cracks me up to see 'experts' like Pachter and others stating that if MS could somehow charge $100 less than Sony that it would 'doom' Sony. Short memories! PS3 anyone? What was that...almost $300 more than the Xbox 360 when it launched? And the PS3 STILL outsold the 360. Yes that generation saw MS make some decent inroads as a relative newcomer to the market, but it hasn't expanded much since then and this previous generation has seen a return to outright dominance from Sony. It would take an awful LOT to 'doom' Sony when it comes to the Ps5. That said, anything is possible! The good news is that we should have most if not all of the information we speak here in the next few weeks. I have to believe that if a magazine is going to feature the PS5, that Sony will have to announce at least right before that issue is available, which is early June as I recall. We're almost mid-May now so just a few more weeks! All shall be revealed! :)
 
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THE:MILKMAN said:
Talking about SSD's though...I just saw these official images from the Xbox website and noticed the SSD is depicted as what looks like a ~30mm x 42mm form factor and you can clearly see a 'half moon' shape screw hole like on PC cards? You can also see a ribbon cable that goes to the I/O board with the expandable storage slot in the other image. I would've thought it would be flash chips soldered direct to the PCB but maybe not?
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Well, there is also the advantage of a board and no soldered to the PCB. Thes can change the storage size pretty easy later on without changing the PCB
 
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