stevematic
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"Call of Duty is art"
I liked you, Gillette.
Also, my ears hurt
It is art. Art isn't a term that's used when something's good.
"Call of Duty is art"
I liked you, Gillette.
Also, my ears hurt
Penn is the only one who has an iota of sense in that video.
Yep, it is hard to make a nuanced argument in that forum. But if we're going to blast the other panelists for dumb unsupported statements we shouldn't spare Penn.
But that's not really the point. They were throwing shit at a wall, and seeing what sticks and trying to find whatever scapegoat they could find.
It is art. Art isn't a term that's used when something's good.
I don't think quality is the only concern of people who don't think games are art. I don't think most games are art. I also don't think chess is art either, even though I like playing it.
Maybe he'd like to explore safety options that don't include mandated government regulations? I don't see how his concerns with statistically more dangerous things clashes with libertarianism.It's completely disengenuous for a libertarian nutbar like him to be talking about shifting our nation's priorities towards preventing traffic deaths and pool drownings when he's first in line screaming about fascist seatbelt laws and "cumbersome" regulations on pool safety holding back the glorious free market.
Penn is a smart guy. He's a funny guy. But he's a NFL lineman knocking over pee wee footballers here and he's being celebrated as the second coming in this thread.
I also don't understand why as a nation of 300 million we can't devote some time to figure out how to prevent the slaughter of kindegardeners AND improving overall public safety.
I'd personally say that chess has an element of art to it.
libertarian nutbar
...We have prevented the slaughter of kindergartners, on a massive scale. How many kindergartners are there in the U.S.? (A lot). And how many "slaughters" have there been, in however many years? (One.) That's not to say what happened in Connecticut wasn't a tragedy, but to pretend like this is some routine happening is empirically absurd.prevent the slaughter of kindegardeners
He was the only rational person in the entire building.
Edit- Hugs will solve everything!!
Edit- Holy shit, these women are stupid, and all over the place.
What did Teller have to say on the matter?
Germany, Canada, Japan, France etc. have murder rates a fraction of the US.
They have plenty of violent media, and varying attitudes on mental health care.
The three issues with this case are:
1. Guns
2. Guns
3. Guns
Assault rifles are also a bit of a smoke screen. 37 people die a day from gun violence in the US. Nearly all of them from hand guns. If you legislate from tragedies attacking assault rifles make sense, if you legislate from stats you ban handguns and assault rifles.
I live in Canada, people whine a ban is pointless because illegal guns are the issue. If the US ended its loose attitude to hand guns there would be no real black market for guns in the Americas. The second amendment must go.
This is not a nice thing to say, nor a nice term to use.Isn't wendy williams a tranny?
Gun crime doesn't seem to be an issue for Switzerland.
Isn't wendy williams a tranny?
I believe Penn is a very intelligent person, and really presented his argument well.
This is not a nice thing to say, nor a nice term to use.
Why is Penn on that show with them? He's too smart to be there.
His opinions are too objective for everyday people, people who tend to have their emotions cloud their judgment. Too much objectivity comes across as insensitivity, and that scares people.Why can't a sensible person like Penn get a talk show? There might be something worthwhile on for once.
What did Teller have to say on the matter?
While both COD and chess are games, chess is not art. COD could be considered - interactive - art because people have designed material and presented it in a particular sequence.Would not agree that he was much more reasonable throughout the conversation though? I get what you're saying and I agree Penn isn't perfect but it seems ridiculous to me to equate him to the other speakers because he didn't flesh out one thing he said near the end of the segment.
They wouldn't be able to get away with it if it weren't for the idiotic audience. They basically cheered on demand everyone time anyone stated anything.
I don't think quality is the only concern of people who don't think games are art. I don't think most games are art. I also don't think chess is art either, even though I like playing it.
How the fuck does a woman who has such a poor grasp of basic English grammar, that can't even remember to breath properly whilst speaking, get a fucking chat show?
That was so painful to watch.
That was one of the first things I noticed as well. Weird for this kind of show to address that issue at all.![]()
You'd think they would change the treatment of their tv thing to not be so... out of place.
HORT TORK
Is this American daytime TV? I hope so.
How the fuck does a woman who has such a poor grasp of basic English grammar, that can't even remember to breath properly whilst speaking, get a fucking chat show?
That was so painful to watch.
Here's footage from 26 years ago of Frank Zappa defending "shock" or "porn" music from similarly ignorant attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9856_xv8gc
She said if he walked in with a handgun he had the potential to kill less people.
And if he'd had a job, he'd potentially wouldn't even have walked into Sandy Hook at all.And if he walked in with no gun he'd have potentially killed 0.
God bless Wikipedia.Wendy Williams' Wikipedia page features a detailed list of the rappers who've told her to suck dicks in their lyrics.
On 14 December 2011, during an interview former X Factor contestant Rachel Crow, Wendy asked the then 13 year old singer if she was a crack baby. Wendy was heavily criticized on her Facebook page and responded the following day on her show[27]. Williams defended her remarks, saying "They said that saying 'crack baby'...is not politically correct...that might be politically incorrect, but I'm gonna tell you something, let's not sugarcoat things."[28]
God bless Wikipedia.
Penn tried to make rational arguments and lay blame squarely on the person who did the killings, while the others all scrambled around for scapegoats. It was really a struggle to sit through the whole video.
Here's footage from 26 years ago of Frank Zappa defending "shock" or "porn" music from similarly ignorant attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9856_xv8gc
I never heard of her but she came off as terribly annoying. What a piss poor show. Jillette is above this. I loved this P&T BS from Showtime. In fact, there was an episode devoted to just this subject regarding video games and violence and he even had none other than Jack Thompson on.I'm surprised to see so many people not recognize the complete cunt that is Wendy Williams.
This is the same personality who:
- propagated the rumor that Tupac Shakur was raped in jail
- revealed that Method Man's wife had cancer before her own family knew
- is one of the few people Will Smith ever dissed
Her show was kind of cute when she'd come on The Soup and make fun of it and herself...but I'd never expect a serious discussion or debate in such a setting.