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Playstation Portal - The ULTIMATE play guide (UPDATED)
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Mibu no ookami
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They need to drop the price of this to 150 and release a 200 dollar OLED model.
If they were able to release something with 120hz and bump up remote play from 60hz and give it VRR, I think that would be a really compelling product too.
Why would they drop the price of Portal when DualSense is $75? Portal isn't a device that a company would sell at a lose to build a user base to sell software, it's meant to make money by being a device that people want to have.
if they lower the price it will be years from now but for now it's selling perfectly fine .
It's not even on-sale but it's been selling above other gaming hardware through the holidays shopping season.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
What does a Dual Sense being 75 dollars mean relative to the Portal?
With PS+ subscriptions, you can easily offsets a 50 dollar price cut, not to mention the increased engagement numbers. Not sure why you think they'd be selling it a loss even if they dropped the price.
Once it is out of beta, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the price and sell a premium OLED model for the previous price.
It will give people a much lower entry price into building a PSN Digital library.
Because there is a whole DualSense Controller connected to a 8" screen & SoC .
This make the money back through PS+ is backwards when people are already buying the Portal at $199 & the money from PS+ subs would not be pure profit so they would be giving up $50 upfront to people who may never use PS+ Premium or drop it after a few months.
Right now there is no reason that Portal should be sold at an lost , if they start selling people cloud versions of games like Switch & they actually sell well then maybe it would make sense to cut the price
Mibu no ookami
Banned
In your mind you think Sony breaks even on Dual Sense controllers sold at 75 dollars? They routinely sell them on sale for like 50 dollars... They're making at the VERY least 35 dollars profit per controller sold if not more. They have a huge profit margin on the Portal just like they do on the Dual Sense Edge.
PS+ revenue, particularly PS+ premium revenue is probably the highest margin product sony sells. If even 10 percent of the people who purchase the Portal specifically because of a price drop get PS+ premium, it would easily offset the lost margin on the Portal itself but as I mentioned before also increases engagement on PS as opposed to someone buying a different device.
Anyways, not going to go back and forth with you on this.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That would be cool.
OGM_Madness
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I’d love for PS5/PS6 to allow you to connect the Portal as a DualSense and use as a regular controller. With the benefit that games could tap into the controller for a Wii U like experience.
With the increase focus on graphics fidelity, they could uncluttered the screen and drop all the UI elements in the Portal.
Make it optional, but imagine the immersion of playing something like Resident Evil or Silent Hill and not having to pause. It should be a pretty simple conversion, not like VR or anything. And not all games need the feature. But make it optional for the games that want to do that.
This could fulfill the dream of having the Wii U an add-on of the original Wii.
Although the 2-screens should be optional, they should however make it system level that you can just connect the Portal to the PS5 and use that as a controller.
With the increase focus on graphics fidelity, they could uncluttered the screen and drop all the UI elements in the Portal.
Make it optional, but imagine the immersion of playing something like Resident Evil or Silent Hill and not having to pause. It should be a pretty simple conversion, not like VR or anything. And not all games need the feature. But make it optional for the games that want to do that.
This could fulfill the dream of having the Wii U an add-on of the original Wii.
Although the 2-screens should be optional, they should however make it system level that you can just connect the Portal to the PS5 and use that as a controller.
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Magister
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Remote Play app sucks on my phone. It actually has microstutters and frame drops. I changed my router, connected via Ethernet, but it was useless. I can't change my wifi channel to less congested one because fuck tplink for not including channel 42 in their firmware. Also, one of my neighbours congests all the channels I can select which are not DFS channels. And on DFS side things aren't much better as another one congests 50% DFS channels. Also, my signal strenght is too weak -75 dbm unless I sit near my router, then it is ok. I also used wifi 6 on my phone, so PS Portal would be a nightmare on Wifi 5. Right now, remote play is playable, but skips frames, microstutters from time to time.
Even if you upgrade your network you may run into similar problems due to congested channels and signal strenght like me. Try to sort it or if you can't don't even think about buying a PS Portal.
Even if you upgrade your network you may run into similar problems due to congested channels and signal strenght like me. Try to sort it or if you can't don't even think about buying a PS Portal.
fart town usa
Member
I love the Portal. I don't bother with cloud streaming (I have access to it), but the remote play aspect is fantastic IMO.
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
Tiago Rodrigues
, are you the one that was hung up on the frame pacing?
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
Tiago Rodrigues
, are you the one that was hung up on the frame pacing?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I don’t have a Portal. Just tried it once thoughI love the Portal. I don't bother with cloud streaming (I have access to it), but the remote play aspect is fantastic IMO.
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
CamHostage
Member
...Drop the price of the DualSense.
It's strange how loud the anger is over game price increases over time, but then somehow basic game controllers creeped into the $70+ range. (And the third-party peripheral market generally died/got locked out, even though with BT/USB we could have a thriving market. Console manufacturers don't want to lose their cut, so instead we have a dormant market where 3rd parties are stuck with generic drivers and unsupported features. )
PS Portal is maybe about right, maybe a little high, for the features it offers but also the features it skipped. If however legitimate competition was allowed (with haptics and proper controller protocols,) that pricepoint would stand out.
(Sorry if this derails the Ultimate Portal Guide thread a bit with a negative post; I like Portal and was wishing for something in this firm factor since Vita or even PSP Remote Play, but I also kind of wish that for $200 the Portal packed just a little more oomph to make it undeniable )
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The 3rd party controllers that they allow are actually higher than the standard controllers