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Playstation Portal - The ULTIMATE play guide (UPDATED)
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Mibu no ookami
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They need to drop the price of this to 150 and release a 200 dollar OLED model.
If they were able to release something with 120hz and bump up remote play from 60hz and give it VRR, I think that would be a really compelling product too.
Why would they drop the price of Portal when DualSense is $75? Portal isn't a device that a company would sell at a lose to build a user base to sell software, it's meant to make money by being a device that people want to have.
if they lower the price it will be years from now but for now it's selling perfectly fine .
It's not even on-sale but it's been selling above other gaming hardware through the holidays shopping season.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
What does a Dual Sense being 75 dollars mean relative to the Portal?
With PS+ subscriptions, you can easily offsets a 50 dollar price cut, not to mention the increased engagement numbers. Not sure why you think they'd be selling it a loss even if they dropped the price.
Once it is out of beta, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the price and sell a premium OLED model for the previous price.
It will give people a much lower entry price into building a PSN Digital library.
Because there is a whole DualSense Controller connected to a 8" screen & SoC .
This make the money back through PS+ is backwards when people are already buying the Portal at $199 & the money from PS+ subs would not be pure profit so they would be giving up $50 upfront to people who may never use PS+ Premium or drop it after a few months.
Right now there is no reason that Portal should be sold at an lost , if they start selling people cloud versions of games like Switch & they actually sell well then maybe it would make sense to cut the price
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
In your mind you think Sony breaks even on Dual Sense controllers sold at 75 dollars? They routinely sell them on sale for like 50 dollars... They're making at the VERY least 35 dollars profit per controller sold if not more. They have a huge profit margin on the Portal just like they do on the Dual Sense Edge.
PS+ revenue, particularly PS+ premium revenue is probably the highest margin product sony sells. If even 10 percent of the people who purchase the Portal specifically because of a price drop get PS+ premium, it would easily offset the lost margin on the Portal itself but as I mentioned before also increases engagement on PS as opposed to someone buying a different device.
Anyways, not going to go back and forth with you on this.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That would be cool.
OGM_Madness
Member
I’d love for PS5/PS6 to allow you to connect the Portal as a DualSense and use as a regular controller. With the benefit that games could tap into the controller for a Wii U like experience.
With the increase focus on graphics fidelity, they could uncluttered the screen and drop all the UI elements in the Portal.
Make it optional, but imagine the immersion of playing something like Resident Evil or Silent Hill and not having to pause. It should be a pretty simple conversion, not like VR or anything. And not all games need the feature. But make it optional for the games that want to do that.
This could fulfill the dream of having the Wii U an add-on of the original Wii.
Although the 2-screens should be optional, they should however make it system level that you can just connect the Portal to the PS5 and use that as a controller.
With the increase focus on graphics fidelity, they could uncluttered the screen and drop all the UI elements in the Portal.
Make it optional, but imagine the immersion of playing something like Resident Evil or Silent Hill and not having to pause. It should be a pretty simple conversion, not like VR or anything. And not all games need the feature. But make it optional for the games that want to do that.
This could fulfill the dream of having the Wii U an add-on of the original Wii.
Although the 2-screens should be optional, they should however make it system level that you can just connect the Portal to the PS5 and use that as a controller.
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Magister
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Remote Play app sucks on my phone. It actually has microstutters and frame drops. I changed my router, connected via Ethernet, but it was useless. I can't change my wifi channel to less congested one because fuck tplink for not including channel 42 in their firmware. Also, one of my neighbours congests all the channels I can select which are not DFS channels. And on DFS side things aren't much better as another one congests 50% DFS channels. Also, my signal strenght is too weak -75 dbm unless I sit near my router, then it is ok. I also used wifi 6 on my phone, so PS Portal would be a nightmare on Wifi 5. Right now, remote play is playable, but skips frames, microstutters from time to time.
Even if you upgrade your network you may run into similar problems due to congested channels and signal strenght like me. Try to sort it or if you can't don't even think about buying a PS Portal.
Even if you upgrade your network you may run into similar problems due to congested channels and signal strenght like me. Try to sort it or if you can't don't even think about buying a PS Portal.
fart town usa
Member
I love the Portal. I don't bother with cloud streaming (I have access to it), but the remote play aspect is fantastic IMO.
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
Tiago Rodrigues
, are you the one that was hung up on the frame pacing?
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
Tiago Rodrigues
, are you the one that was hung up on the frame pacing?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I don’t have a Portal. Just tried it once thoughI love the Portal. I don't bother with cloud streaming (I have access to it), but the remote play aspect is fantastic IMO.
I even read that the frame pacing issue was fixed.
CamHostage
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...Drop the price of the DualSense.
It's strange how loud the anger is over game price increases over time, but then somehow basic game controllers creeped into the $70+ range. (And the third-party peripheral market generally died/got locked out, even though with BT/USB we could have a thriving market. Console manufacturers don't want to lose their cut, so instead we have a dormant market where 3rd parties are stuck with generic drivers and unsupported features. )
PS Portal is maybe about right, maybe a little high, for the features it offers but also the features it skipped. If however legitimate competition was allowed (with haptics and proper controller protocols,) that pricepoint would stand out.
(Sorry if this derails the Ultimate Portal Guide thread a bit with a negative post; I like Portal and was wishing for something in this firm factor since Vita or even PSP Remote Play, but I also kind of wish that for $200 the Portal packed just a little more oomph to make it undeniable )
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The 3rd party controllers that they allow are actually higher than the standard controllers
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I got a giftcard from work, and put it towards a Portal. Looking forward to superior remote play. I can leave my backbone and phone for Xbox.
I’ll post some impressions later.
I’ll post some impressions later.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I switched internet providers and now cannot get a wired ethernet connection.
Sadly, I get some minor choppiness. Speeds are fast, but soemthing about the latency is not helping. Not sure if there's a setting I need to use to improve things.
Sadly, I get some minor choppiness. Speeds are fast, but soemthing about the latency is not helping. Not sure if there's a setting I need to use to improve things.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Can’t get wired to your house? I’m just wired to the access point in a mesh WiFi.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I have fiber now. Wifi router is not in my living room though. I have a Wifi extender, which has ethernet port that connects to my PS5, but it still has some mild choppiness and occasionally interruptions regardless of 2G or 5G
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Mesh WiFi has the higher speed backbone. Gotta upgrade to something like the Eero Pro’s instead of a WiFi extender.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Of course I had to sell my portal 2 weeks before they actually fixed the micro stutter, FML...
Again, It's a nice little novelty and I would buy it again but... Its Wi-Fi5-only connectivity is a bigger detriment to me compared to the lack of actual Bluetooth connectivity, that, and the fact that I'm actually afraid of the analogue sticks crapping themselves out...
For the time being I'm using my 12.4inch tablet with the dualsense connected directly to the console so...
Again, It's a nice little novelty and I would buy it again but... Its Wi-Fi5-only connectivity is a bigger detriment to me compared to the lack of actual Bluetooth connectivity, that, and the fact that I'm actually afraid of the analogue sticks crapping themselves out...
For the time being I'm using my 12.4inch tablet with the dualsense connected directly to the console so...
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Buy your own Wi-Fi router hook your PS5 & Portal up through your router.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
What do you mean? My PS5 and Portal hook up to the one provided by my cable company. Not sure how a new router would improve things
th4tguy
Member
That one sucks and is probably pretty slow at in network transfers
MiguelItUp
Member
This thing does a lot more than I initially thought it did, especially with what everyone was saying what it did and didn't do around launch. Depending on future PS5 titles, I could see myself wanting one. 
You can get a router that can be connected to your main network through wifi but connected to your PS5 through Ethernet then you also connect your portal to the router that's connected to your PS5.
A router with wisp mode so basically this router is connected to your Wi-Fi then creating a new Wifi network for your portal & a LAN connection for your PS5 . Now your PS5 is wired to the network that your portal is connected to like it was before you got the new provider.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I have my PS5's wired via ethernet into satellite mesh routers on my WiFi 6e network and ever since I did that I've had a completely solid experience using my Portal at home. Since the PS5 doesn't do downloads or streaming via its wifi adapter any more I completely stopped getting crappy resolution drops and disconnects if a patch or game downloads in the background. It's pretty amazing.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I think im doing that already with an extender that has an Ethernet port connected to my ps5. The extender doubled my speeds to roughly 650 mb/s but I still get a hit of choppiness and interruptions
I can’t locate the router near my ps5
Giallo Corsa
Member
Reminder : you can buy a Portal right now (219€) and with 20€ more you can actually get an extra Dualsense (all colors) with the promotion on PS Direct till February 19th.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Eurogaf :
I've noticed on the PS direct site that the portal comes with a 1 year only warranty - how's this possible ? All electronic products here in the EU are covered by a 2 year one.
Is it because it's considered a "controller" ? Even so, this shit has a screen and a chipset so for all intents and purposes this should fall into the "electronics" category, no ?
I've noticed on the PS direct site that the portal comes with a 1 year only warranty - how's this possible ? All electronic products here in the EU are covered by a 2 year one.
Is it because it's considered a "controller" ? Even so, this shit has a screen and a chipset so for all intents and purposes this should fall into the "electronics" category, no ?
Yeah should work about the same . Sidenote the Internet speed shouldn't have any affect on your connection between the PS5 & Portal
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Target order is ready for pickup.
If it works as good as I hope, I imagine I’ll have to change all my games from quality to performance, since this thing is 1080p. No need in getting them extra p’s on this device.
If it works as good as I hope, I imagine I’ll have to change all my games from quality to performance, since this thing is 1080p. No need in getting them extra p’s on this device.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So now that I was finally able to finish setting up my portal, I was able to play it for the last hour. Zero issues. Works perfectly. 1080p @ 60fps looks great on the device.
Only problem I have is that the sticks don’t feel as highlight as the normal dual sense controller.
Only problem I have is that the sticks don’t feel as highlight as the normal dual sense controller.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’ve put a few hours into the device now. It’s great. Like with normal remote play on the phone and backbone, it just works. I’ve tested out Resident Evil 5, Silent Hill Remake and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. I run the performance mode on them all, as I don’t see a difference with the quality modes.
Is it t worth the he cost? Yes. When you realize the the best “other” option of remote play is a $100 Backbone, it’s really a steal.
PlayStation Portal is the ideal way to play a PS5. I’d rather play all the games at 1080p @ 60fps on the Portal than spend $1 million to play them at faux K @ 60fps on the Pro.
Is it t worth the he cost? Yes. When you realize the the best “other” option of remote play is a $100 Backbone, it’s really a steal.
PlayStation Portal is the ideal way to play a PS5. I’d rather play all the games at 1080p @ 60fps on the Portal than spend $1 million to play them at faux K @ 60fps on the Pro.
kevboard
Member
the best other option is this:
which is 15 bucks and covers 100% of the portal's functionality
You keep telling yourself it's the same lolthe best other option is this:
which is 15 bucks and covers 100% of the portal's functionality
kevboard
Member
it literally is... but less cumbersome in fact, and it also works with Xbox remote play, Steam remote play, GeForce Now and so on.
so not the same... better
It's not lol & I'm pretty sure I had this conversation with you before, I have a 12" tablet on a kiosk that I can take anywhere & use with my DS but Portal is better .
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I hate controller clips.the best other option is this:
which is 15 bucks and covers 100% of the portal's functionality
Portal's success is eating at him for some reason because he was in the other Portal thread trying to push this clip also lol
Post in thread 'Mat Piscatella: Ended up being a great holiday period for PlayStation Portal in the US. It finished the year with an over 4% attach rate to PS5' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/mat-...r-4-attach-rate-to-ps5.1680224/post-270068062
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Played a ton on my portal today. Fantastic.
Tomorrow is the real test though. How it works connecting to my phone to remote play. I typically get 700+ Mbps down and 100+ Mbps up on my phone when at work via cellular.
Tomorrow is the real test though. How it works connecting to my phone to remote play. I typically get 700+ Mbps down and 100+ Mbps up on my phone when at work via cellular.
How? I thought this wasn't possible anymore.
Killjoy-NL
Member
I had this happen to me a few days before the pre-order for the Midnight Black Portal went live.
700+ hours without any issues and suddenly the right stick just stopped over the verticle axis.
So rn waiting til next week for my Portal to arrive. Kinda sucks as now my gametime is more limited and hopefully they improved on the issue.
Might send my original Portal to Sony at a later date, then I'll have 2 Portals for the price of 2.5, I suppose.
Darkness_Arises
Member
A product of the Sega -> MS -> Ninten/PC retard pipeline. Any mention of Sony's success and innovation riles him up.
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Parazels
Member
I'm sure all your dreams will come true, when they release PS6 + PS Portal 2.
This thread not even about discussing portal's worth, but
can't help himself to not being triggered.
Lambhalf
Member
Thanks to NeoGaf, I was able to snag the 30th Anniversary Edition. And let me tell you, it's been a blast!
I am honestly shocked how 1:1 the games are with the inputs and graphics. TV may cry.
The only game that I couldn't play well was the original DOOM 2016 for some reason, but I'm sure there is some option to fix that in the game.
Everything else has been perfect!
I am honestly shocked how 1:1 the games are with the inputs and graphics. TV may cry.
The only game that I couldn't play well was the original DOOM 2016 for some reason, but I'm sure there is some option to fix that in the game.
Everything else has been perfect!
Darkness_Arises
Member
The very mention of PS5 pro/portal triggers these weirdos to no end. I do not even have these products nor do I intend to buy them. But I can see how they offer great value to certain customers.This thread not even about discussing portal's worth, but