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Rise of the Ronin Is Yet Another Disappointing PC Port from KOEI TECMO
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Schmendrick
Member
considering that the game runs and looks like crap on the consoles :
if pc players are second class citizens but can at least bruteforce and fix via mods, then console players would be something like hostages because they can`t help themselves and are just stuck with whatever the developer vomits on their plate.
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Thebonehead
Gold Member
Dso gaming says it's dog shit as well.
www.dsogaming.com
Japanese developer incompetence at its finest such as the below...
"Not only that, but you cannot use DLSS 3 Frame Generation in Fullscreen Mode. Instead, you’ll have to use Window or Borderless. I raised this issue to Team Ninja and its response was “The unavailability of frame generation in non-borderless fullscreen mode is a specification”. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything like that. But hey, it is what it is"
Rise of the Ronin Benchmarks & PC Performance Analysis
Powered by the Katana Engine, it's time now to benchmark Rise of the Ronin and examine its performance on the PC.
www.dsogaming.com
Japanese developer incompetence at its finest such as the below...
"Not only that, but you cannot use DLSS 3 Frame Generation in Fullscreen Mode. Instead, you’ll have to use Window or Borderless. I raised this issue to Team Ninja and its response was “The unavailability of frame generation in non-borderless fullscreen mode is a specification”. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything like that. But hey, it is what it is"
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Mods will fix it. Seen that before with KTGust ports.
Insanemaelstrom
Member
That's a shame. Was planning on playing this, guess will need to wait for mods or future updates
xenosys
Member
Dso gaming says it's dog shit as well.
Rise of the Ronin Benchmarks & PC Performance Analysis
Powered by the Katana Engine, it's time now to benchmark Rise of the Ronin and examine its performance on the PC.
Japanese developer incompetence at its finest such as the below...
"Not only that, but you cannot use DLSS 3 Frame Generation in Fullscreen Mode. Instead, you’ll have to use Window or Borderless. I raised this issue to Team Ninja and its response was “The unavailability of frame generation in non-borderless fullscreen mode is a specification”. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything like that. But hey, it is what it is"
A 5090 with no RT @ 4K getting 72FPS is insane. This game was heavily criticised for how "last-gen" is looked as well on launch last year.
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Lokaum D+
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
This fucking sucks. The PS5 version runs like shit so I was hoping for a big performance increase on PC.
This is a PS5 exclusive too, mind you. The textures are shit, the geometry is flat. There's zero reason for this thing to run like shit AND be 150 gigs in size. Either their engine or their optimization team are absolute garbage.
That's what i read almost every time. If you have a 2k 3k or 4k pc you can brute force and will run ok.
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Horseganador
Member
I don't know why they bother making a broken port to PC, if you're going to release it, make it good.
DeaconOfTheDank
Member
The game is fun as hell, so I'll be double-dipping for PC. Here's to hoping that KT and mods fix it up
Apparently you shouldn’t expect much more powerful and expensive hardware to run games much better than consoles. That would be unreasonable.
Just like you shouldn’t expect a switch game to look much better when ported to ps5.
Senua
Member
They haven't made a good version of the game in general. Complete incompetence.
Nioh 2 looked like a PS3 game though.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
This game too.
Lucifers Beard
Member
After reading the article it seems like performance is shit on Ultra settings as they are just completely unoptimised. It's obviously not a good look when trying to run the game on the highest end hardware and it runs badly.
That being said, if you run the game on standard settings it sounds like it's better optimised and runs well enough on what they have under the recommended requirements.
That being said, if you run the game on standard settings it sounds like it's better optimised and runs well enough on what they have under the recommended requirements.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It would be fine if it ran poorly on Ultra but looked amazing. But it looks meh at best.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Game always looked below mid anyway so nothing of value was lost if it fails.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Guys, the game runs at 1070p-1100p on average in Performance Mode on the Pro without ray tracing. It's 936p on the regular PS5.
Here, they're running 4K native+DLAA and max settings with RT.
This guy on a 7800 XT runs it at 1440p High settings and is able to remain above 60fps. Otherwise, he has to use DLSS Quality at Ultra settings because his frame rate dips to the 40s in intense moments.
I’m not sure of the graphical preset on the Pro, but the Quality Mode is 1440p and runs at ~40fps.
The game scales just fine on PC compared to the PS5 version. It’s just an ugly game that doesn’t have the graphics the hardware commend. PC wasn’t going to optimize it better.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Question for PC gamers:
Were there any major console titles from last gen that couldn't be brute-forced to a satisfactory level performance on mid to decent PC rig?
And obviously I mean during the lifetime of the PS4/Xbone gen, because I'm curious to know if you guys have noticed a generational change.
Were there any major console titles from last gen that couldn't be brute-forced to a satisfactory level performance on mid to decent PC rig?
And obviously I mean during the lifetime of the PS4/Xbone gen, because I'm curious to know if you guys have noticed a generational change.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
It looks like half arsed optimised trash on the PS5 PRO. I played about twenty minutes worth and then deleted it.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Other than games with bad shader stutter or games with extensive added RT, I can't think of any that don't run satisfactory 'for me' on my 6900XT.
There is a difference between "this game should run better on this PC given how it looks" and "this game should run better on this PC when compared to how it runs on lower powered consoles"
PC's are generally in the same ballpark as consoles like for like - but a lot of the games are looking really underwhelming overall on consoles as well.
MiguelItUp
Member
Glad I wasn't enticed by the price. Something was telling me to wait.
Zacfoldor
Member
Don't call the PC a trash can bruh. It really isn't. It's actually a dump. Call it the giant console port dump.
Hey, we all just take what we can get.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The base PS5 version also ran like shit in later areas when I played it during the launch window. I can't say if that's been fixed via patching since then, but the launch experience was far from stable in Performance mode.
delishcaek
Member
But that artcile is at least more nuanced. Ultra settings seem to push some settings too much, tanking performance. Reminds me of old games that had ridiculous shadow quality and draw distance settings that tanked performance by 50%.Dso gaming says it's dog shit as well.
Rise of the Ronin Benchmarks & PC Performance Analysis
Powered by the Katana Engine, it's time now to benchmark Rise of the Ronin and examine its performance on the PC.
Japanese developer incompetence at its finest such as the below...
"Not only that, but you cannot use DLSS 3 Frame Generation in Fullscreen Mode. Instead, you’ll have to use Window or Borderless. I raised this issue to Team Ninja and its response was “The unavailability of frame generation in non-borderless fullscreen mode is a specification”. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything like that. But hey, it is what it is"
Here going from Ultra to High gets you a 25% performance increase in the 1% lows, Standard settings (I presume it's PS5 settings) give you a 50% boost. Game should run fine at 1440p with high settings on most mid-range PCs. Much better than the PS5 version.
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Ovech-King
Member
Run those tests on dlss quality instead and that frame rate will double easy
Zathalus
Member
How’s the game running on the Pro? Oh ~1080p upscaled to 4K with the oldest version of PSSR so it’s an unstable mess? It also drops to the low 40s?Don't call the PC a trash can bruh. It really isn't. It's actually a dump. Call it the giant console port dump.
Hey, we all just take what we can get.
Amazing.
Sentenza
Member
I can't honestly think of any.
But that remains true even in the current era.
Zathalus
Member
Having played and finished the game on the Pro performance mode. That is not simply not true. It looks shit, and frame drops were often. I only finished it because the game itself is good.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Arkham Knight maxed out before they fixed it. The smoke physics broke it.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
1070-1100p and dropping below 60 vs native 4K+DLAA 80-100fps and High settings.
Yeah, I don't think so. Mind you, the Pro should be running this at like 1800p60, but the optimization is ass.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
Killer8
Member
Dso gaming says it's dog shit as well.
Rise of the Ronin Benchmarks & PC Performance Analysis
Powered by the Katana Engine, it's time now to benchmark Rise of the Ronin and examine its performance on the PC.
Japanese developer incompetence at its finest such as the below...
"Not only that, but you cannot use DLSS 3 Frame Generation in Fullscreen Mode. Instead, you’ll have to use Window or Borderless. I raised this issue to Team Ninja and its response was “The unavailability of frame generation in non-borderless fullscreen mode is a specification”. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything like that. But hey, it is what it is"
It's puzzling why they did not do any comparisons with plain old DLSS.
DLAA buttered up with fake frame nonsense is no substitute for the real performance gains of DLSS.
Katatonic
Member
1070-1100p and dropping below 60 vs native 4K+DLAA 80-100fps and Ultra settings.
Yeah, I don't think so. Mind you, the Pro should be running this at like 1800p60, but the optimization is ass.
The best play experience is not measured through graphs.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
And considering you never touched the PC version, how do you know how good it is?
Katatonic
Member
Console users aren't the ones complaining.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They were complaining a year ago.
midasmulligan
Member
To be fair, was a bit of a technical disaster on consoles as well
Spiral1407
Member
Rise of the Ronin unironically looks like a PS3 game and nothing will change my mind about that. The fact that it performs like one too is kinda funny.
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